[Batmanplease]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Right, I am saying they are using the bolt on flares. The other guy was claiming all new wider stamped sheet metal fenders.

Nah it obvious by the link i posted that they are some type of bolt on fenders but i was on the challengertalk forum and one guy brought it to everyones attention that in the new fast 8 trailer it shows one in grey or atleast it looks very much like one and ontop of that the movie comes out the day of the reveal for car so could very well be it.

[newmoon]

850hp, & 315 Drag Radials.
http://www.tflcar.com/2017/01/report...en-850-900-hp/

[ULTRAZLS1]

It just says 315 wider tires. Not drag radials.

The thing is going to need a proper drag radial to really hook with that power. One they wouldn't put on from the factory.

I doubt they would put a real drag radial on this car if it's a regular production fully street legal car people will be driving for thousands of miles in many conditions. Cool yes. Practical hell no. Wore out in 3-5 k and horrible in rain etc.

Maybe they got a new tire made just for the demon that is near a drag radial and street friendly. But something like a 555r just wouldn't go on a car from the factory imo

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

It just says 315 wider tires. Not drag radials.

The thing is going to need a proper drag radial to really hook with that power. One they wouldn't put on from the factory.

I doubt they would put a real drag radial on this car if it's a regular production fully street legal car people will be driving for thousands of miles in many conditions. Cool yes. Practical hell no. Wore out in 3-5 k and horrible in rain etc.

Maybe they got a new tire made just for the demon that is near a drag radial and street friendly. But something like a 555r just wouldn't go on a car from the factory imo

Well rumors are DRs will be an optional tire package. Yes they may wear out in 3-5k miles but so will the Trofeos on the Z28? I ran 555r on my Camaro for 4k and they were fine when I sold the car. I wasn't performing a smoke show daily though. If you are buying the car for street strip action tire mileage really isn't an issue.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Well rumors are DRs will be an optional tire package. Yes they may wear out in 3-5k miles but so will the Trofeos on the Z28? I ran 555r on my Camaro for 4k and they were fine when I sold the car. I wasn't performing a smoke show daily though. If you are buying the car for street strip action tire mileage really isn't an issue.

The issues with drag radials isn't the wear, it's how dangerous they can be in the rain. If Dodge puts drag radials on this thing it better come with some crazy ass warning from the lawyers as people will wrap them around a tree in the wet...

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by newmoon

850hp, & 315 Drag Radials.
http://www.tflcar.com/2017/01/report...en-850-900-hp/

Sorry, but a 315 isn't didley squat. (If it's not a drag radial, they made no mention of it if it is or not) I have 335's on my Z06, putting down 740 at the wheels and I'm squirly as all get out. But, this will be a highway roll king for sure. So, rolling into the throttle is the safest bet cus whatever you are racing, you are going to chase down anyways on the big end.

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

There's a big difference in a DR and a sicky summer only tire like the GYs or Pilot Sports, etc... The soft sidewall is the biggest safety concern next to the ability to actually deal with standing water. Handling a wet surface is one thing but displacing a standing puddle with a couple of thin grooves is another entirely. If it wasn't so then we would have seen them on cars like the Hellcat to begin with.

Your 555Rs are also a compromise, not quite as sticky as other DRs but much better at dealing with water due to their tread. There is no tire that is perfect granted, but too many safety issues to sell a DR on factory car. Don't forget we live in an age where everyone has to have ABS, STM, TCS, and before too long crash avoidance. Had we had DRs in the 60's and 70's....someone would have sold them with it.

The 555R has done wonderfully on my 600RWHP Challenger, rain, cold, you name it. Obviously work best on a 90 degree summer day, but not a big deal everywhere else. I'm speaking from direct experience not theory.

Drove my 2SS on a 30 degree day and it was like driving on hockey pucks. Haven't driven it in the rain so can't speak there, but the 555R is an awesome tire in my experience and could EASILY be offered as an option from the factory, or something very similar, and the "stock tire" debate is null

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Sorry, but a 315 isn't didley squat. (If it's not a drag radial, they made no mention of it if it is or not) I have 335's on my Z06, putting down 740 at the wheels and I'm squirly as all get out. But, this will be a highway roll king for sure. So, rolling into the throttle is the safest bet cus whatever you are racing, you are going to chase down anyways on the big end.

Looks like a possible mule is wearing DRs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPVrRf_g...ster_z07&hl=en

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

The issues with drag radials isn't the wear, it's how dangerous they can be in the rain. If Dodge puts drag radials on this thing it better come with some crazy ass warning from the lawyers as people will wrap them around a tree in the wet...

555R's don't have these issues described above. Folks should probably qualify statements like this to define which tire they're referring to. Apparently not all DRs are created the same.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Looks like a possible mule is wearing DRs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPVrRf_g...ster_z07&hl=en

Nice. Yea, those should hook up. I did forget about the weight of the car too so. That helps keep it planted. I'll race the first Demon I see....on one condition. It must be raining.

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Looks like a possible mule is wearing DRs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPVrRf_g...ster_z07&hl=en

"Race gas button", that would be interesting. Those look like Nitto NT05Rs to me.

[SuperSound]

What you want to bet that the times and power figures are wearing DRs and race gas (which is fine for the NHRA class mentioned). The pics might just be showing the DR they used to reach those times. So it will probably have a much lower power figure without race gas and be sold with NT05s all around with an option for the NT05Rs for rear (for customer installation). That way they can avoid unnecessary legal issues selling it with a DR but still quote times (like they did for the Hellcat) with them.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

555R's don't have these issues described above. Folks should probably qualify statements like this to define which tire they're referring to. Apparently not all DRs are created the same.

I've used Nitto drag radials as well, they are the least sketchy in the rain yes, but still far from a normal performance tires capabilities in the rain, just look how shallow the tread channels are. Then add wear into that equation, which will make those channels that help push away water even more shallow....

Bottom line is the average person with a 800 hp car with ANY drag radial driving in the rain will be asking for trouble. Anyone who thinks Joe Blow should be able to buy a car with that kind of power with drag radials and drive it in the rain is delusional. They would have to offer a separate set of wheels with these tires IMO just based on legalities alone if they even go this route.

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

I've used Nitto drag radials as well, they are the least sketchy in the rain yes, but still far from a normal performance tires capabilities in the rain, just look how shallow the tread channels are. Then add wear into that equation, which will make those channels that help push away water even more shallow....
Bottom line is the average person with a 800 hp car with ANY drag radial driving in the rain will be asking for trouble. Anyone who thinks Joe Blow should be able to buy an car with that kind of power with drag radials and drive it in the rain is delusional.

I've used M&H Drag Radials and they were only good on hot days and the sidewall did flex too much for street use.

I had Nitto Invos (high perf street tire) on my Challenger and could literally smoke the tires at will even at 80MPH = dangerous no matter what, even on 90 degree days. I couldn't use more than 50% throttle until 3rd or 4th gear or the car was crab walking.

555R no issues. Hook up fine for me on the street and I can use 100% throttle as early as 2nd gear with minimal wheel spin. I avoid the rain like the plague on my performance cars because I just flat don't feel like cleaning all the grime from everywhere but have been caught out in the rain a couple times in the Challenger and was very nervous at first, due to statements like you've made. However, in my experience these tires did great. I even tested them a bit in a wet parking lot to find the limit and was surprised where it happened to be.

It honestly doesn't feel like a DR at all to me. Sidewall is very firm and it does fine in the corners as well.