[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34832613...ti_earthquake/

I don't get it... why not some national guard units? Aren't they TRAINED for disaster recovery? As a former Marine, I can tell you what the Marines main mission is: Destroy The Enemy. Babysitting is not our job. I know that we are trained for quick response and what not, but I feel that using the Marines as a police force is a waste of resources and keeps us from doing what we do best (though of course we hope and pray that it doesn't have to come to that in the first place).



Ok, end rant.

says the man that's an accidental nuclear explosion. . .


since you were in the military then you know that we do a lot of things we didn't sign up for. so what's the point?

[2ndgenz28]

Originally Posted by THUMPER20X

They only way a countries people can break away from repression is internally. You have to let the country take its own course, let it naturally "Evolve and redistribute its power and wealth". Sometimes it works out badly but sometimes it works out good and stays stanle for a long time. Whatever is gonna happen let it happen. The last thing the world needs is a Caribbean Afganistan, especially the Haitian people. The earthquake thing is horrible and all the help should be given. I just hope the government there distributes everything as best they can and the looters are kept at bay. I agree the Marines are needed especially because about 2000 heavy duty convicts escaped from their biggest jail and they are on the loose. Im sure theyre not gonna help give out water. I think the earthquake is just the start to a huge chain of events that will change that area forever. Full marks to the US for once again stepping up to the plate in the fullest. A country to respect and be very proud of. Canada I guess would do more but I think our government will still be on Christmas Kindergarten break until Easter or something. I know we have given Aid and a couple ships ets but theres no reason we shouldnt do more like ship some heavy equipment and stuff to clean up. Theres alot of excavation equipment up here that stays dormant till the spring.

Little better then I said it.

Far as Canada goes, we got ya covered as always and I mean that in a good way. Often there is 1 friend in a group that pays for everything, and that’s us. And we never complain or care. We got ya covered, go ahead n relax.

Just don't screw with our missile defense shield

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Well I don't think it would be war like that, it would be more like when they tell the leaders to leave the country and never come back. Like what happened to the Marcos's

Member his wife, Emelda or something, 10,000 pairs of designer shoes while the rest of the country went barefoot n hungry.

I would never suggest more should die. If the people went bloodthirsty, stop it, but if they want a real democratic change, we should not stop it.

Then choose your words better. A revolt is different from a civil war is different from a military coup. When I hear "civil war" I think of armed conflict of rebels vs loyalsists. And the civilian death toll wouldn't come from bloody rampages either, at least most of them wouldn't. It would come from disease, dehydration, and hunger. These are the biggest causes of death under any anarchy situation. The longer it takes to re-establish the status quo, the more people will die. When there are tens of thousands in a tent city, drinking contaminated water, disease is rampant. Without food they are also weak. Without medical facilities, many of these people die from treatable diseases. So anything that disrupts progress out of those camps or worsens the conditions in those camps will cost thousands of lives. And the removal of the current government will delay the rebuilding and likely cause the bulk of the aid (people, money, supplies, and equipment) to disappear.

Now is not the time to sit back and let the people rise up. Get them back on their feet first. Then let the people do what they wish.

[ace21789]

marines aren't the only ones going so is 2nd bct from the 82 airborne in nc they are the global relief force right now for the usa im in 3ed bct.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Then choose your words better. A revolt is different from a civil war is different from a military coup. When I hear "civil war" I think of armed conflict of rebels vs loyalsists. And the civilian death toll wouldn't come from bloody rampages either, at least most of them wouldn't. It would come from disease, dehydration, and hunger. These are the biggest causes of death under any anarchy situation. The longer it takes to re-establish the status quo, the more people will die. When there are tens of thousands in a tent city, drinking contaminated water, disease is rampant. Without food they are also weak. Without medical facilities, many of these people die from treatable diseases. So anything that disrupts progress out of those camps or worsens the conditions in those camps will cost thousands of lives. And the removal of the current government will delay the rebuilding and likely cause the bulk of the aid (people, money, supplies, and equipment) to disappear.

Now is not the time to sit back and let the people rise up. Get them back on their feet first. Then let the people do what they wish.

Political science definitions of those words are very close to the one you posted. I have posted more specific definitions here.

A protest involves civilians picketing and obstructing either private or public sectors for a cause.

A revolt involves a one-time uprising, but it may be tied to other revolts for the same cause. Sometimes, these are called failed revolutions. The current state of Iran is good example of multiple revolts tied together.

A revolution involves a nationwide attempt at regime change, usually involving the working and middle classes. Military forces are loyal to the government, regardless of who is in power at the end. This is frequently confused with a civil war. The main difference is that the opposition creates its own army in a revolution. The French Revolution is a great example of a textbook revolution. The American Revolution also fits this description.

A civil war involves people loyal to the current regime usually called conservatives and those who seek to change it usually called liberals or radicals. If the conservatives revert to a previous form of government, they become reactionaries. Military forces choose sides based on factionalized loyalties.