Traction issue? - Page 4

RobbyBeefcake87 · 05-01-2020, 10:07 AM

I have to say maybe its the 305 sc3's but I don't really spin much at all outside of a launch or something deliberate. Maybe once or twice chirped on a 1 - 2 shift.

DannyC · 05-01-2020, 09:59 PM

Ok I have to agree with the original post, these cars have enough power to warrant better tires. If you have a lot of power, what good does it do if you can't hook. I'm thinking about the Nito 555. Any comments?

Altered Carbon · 05-02-2020, 01:21 AM

I changed up my suspension and put some bigger Toyo R888R tires on and don't get a ton of wheel spin with the nannies off. And I'm at 800HP/TQ, so, at least some new tires, sticky ones, and maybe not immediately hammering the throttle to the floor.

cmitchell17 · 05-07-2020, 10:59 PM

I have tried to get my camber adjusted more towards zero degrees, but apparently it is maxxed out at about -.9 degrees. I think if I can get it more towards zero it will help. Tire traction has a lot of non-linear science behind it, but apparently width dosen't help traction like you think it would. In other words increasing width 25% dosen't near get you close to gaining 25% more traction.

I know tire diameter (bigger diameter tires increase contact patch (actual tire rubber that touches the road)) helps with traction, and it helps a lot more than trying to increase width. Tire width is more helpful for lateral (cornering) traction.

The classical physics example of the frictional force being 100% independent of the contact area isn't 100% true anymore.

That being said I think getting the camber to a more zeroed value in the rear should still help a lot. Problem is I think I would have to get aftermarket upper control arms, since the last time someone tried to align it they said they couldn't go anymore.

Kerry · 05-08-2020, 11:13 AM

Im in thed same boat. Wondering how much it will help

cmitchell17 · 05-11-2020, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyC

Ok I have to agree with the original post, these cars have enough power to warrant better tires. If you have a lot of power, what good does it do if you can't hook. I'm thinking about the Nito 555. Any comments?

Yes, some people think its "cool" when your tires spin haha, but I hate the fact that its just wasted energy and makes your car look slow. Look at the new C8 and the 0-60 times it is getting 2.9 seconds, with a comparable setup we have (the dual clutch is a little faster on upshift than a stock untuned 8L90, but I think the new C8 is heavier than the C7. Anyway by them just moving a few hundred pounds back they made a rear wheel drive car put power down the way it should.

Aragorn · 05-11-2020, 10:31 PM

Don’t have a lead foot , and it is pretty hard for me to break traction.

05-01-2020, 10:07 AM	#43
RobbyBeefcake87 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 1,981	I have to say maybe its the 305 sc3's but I don't really spin much at all outside of a launch or something deliberate. Maybe once or twice chirped on a 1 - 2 shift. __________________ 2000 Miata - aventi storm wheels, roll bar. 2019 Mustang GT pp1 - svt pp2 wheels, mbrp cat back, sync 3 upgrade, p1x procharger + stg2 intercooler. 2018 Colorado zr2 - zr2 sport bar, showcase spare tire. 2018 Camaro SS 1LE - GM cai, black bowties, suede knee bolsters, 1le plate frame, black fuel door, dark tails + 3rd brake light, euro side markers + led's, GM all weather floor mats, velossatech big mouth, GM strut brace. 2017 Corvette Grandsport (sold) - untouched. 2006 GTO (sold) - iat relocation, air box mod, monero side marker lights.

05-01-2020, 09:59 PM	#44
DannyC Drives: 17 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Central VA Posts: 122	Ok I have to agree with the original post, these cars have enough power to warrant better tires. If you have a lot of power, what good does it do if you can't hook. I'm thinking about the Nito 555. Any comments? __________________ Flow Tech axle back, Roto-Fab, Nick Williams 103, AEM Wide Band, Defrost vent pod, billet catch can, BBK long tube headers and NGK LTR6GP, #90198, one step colder, Magnuson 2650, Snow Performance water/methanol injection. (Also tune myself w/HPTuners)

05-02-2020, 01:21 AM	#45
Altered Carbon Ghost Spawn Drives: Camaro Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: East Coast Posts: 537	I changed up my suspension and put some bigger Toyo R888R tires on and don't get a ton of wheel spin with the nannies off. And I'm at 800HP/TQ, so, at least some new tires, sticky ones, and maybe not immediately hammering the throttle to the floor.

05-07-2020, 10:59 PM	#46
cmitchell17 Drives: 17 2SS, 8L90, Cam, Heads, E85 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: US Posts: 1,213	I have tried to get my camber adjusted more towards zero degrees, but apparently it is maxxed out at about -.9 degrees. I think if I can get it more towards zero it will help. Tire traction has a lot of non-linear science behind it, but apparently width dosen't help traction like you think it would. In other words increasing width 25% dosen't near get you close to gaining 25% more traction. I know tire diameter (bigger diameter tires increase contact patch (actual tire rubber that touches the road)) helps with traction, and it helps a lot more than trying to increase width. Tire width is more helpful for lateral (cornering) traction. The classical physics example of the frictional force being 100% independent of the contact area isn't 100% true anymore. That being said I think getting the camber to a more zeroed value in the rear should still help a lot. Problem is I think I would have to get aftermarket upper control arms, since the last time someone tried to align it they said they couldn't go anymore.

05-08-2020, 11:13 AM	#47
Kerry Drives: 2019 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Al Posts: 834	Im in thed same boat. Wondering how much it will help

05-11-2020, 10:31 PM	#49
Aragorn Account Suspended Drives: Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,538	Don’t have a lead foot , and it is pretty hard for me to break traction.

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