I put the ZL1/ 1LE Sway Bars on my 2SS - Page 4

F1FTY · 01-05-2017, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 1LE Red Dragon

I can give a little update on mine.

AFE/PFADT lowering springs
MRC factory option
GM 1LE/ZL1 Sway bar kit
MRR M017 wheels with Nitto 555G2
305 rear, 285 front

Car has much better turn in an less understeer. Tends more towards neutral to slight oversteer. Tons of grip, and seems even more composed than before. Ride is great. I think it did nothing but improve everything about the dynamics of the car. I'm pretty impressed.

How about now?

Want to pull the trigger on suspension parts since the FE3 is so damn soft. Getting impatient on the full 1LE kit getting released.

grnflash · 01-09-2017, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LE Red Dragon

I can give a little update on mine.

AFE/PFADT lowering springs
MRC factory option
GM 1LE/ZL1 Sway bar kit
MRR M017 wheels with Nitto 555G2
305 rear, 285 front

Car has much better turn in an less understeer. Tends more towards neutral to slight oversteer. Tons of grip, and seems even more composed than before. Ride is great. I think it did nothing but improve everything about the dynamics of the car. I'm pretty impressed.

I have a 285/35-19 square setup with BMR sways and end links, and I'd second those opinions. The bigger sways really "wake up" the MRC, and it all works very, very well together. Ride comfort is about 85% the same—certainly does *not* turn the car into a rattle-trap (also, credit to GM—underscores how solid the chassis is!). In the corners, however, Tour mode feels like the stock Sport setting did, Sport feels like stock Track, and Track feels like a grin-inducing WTF!

LesBaer · 01-10-2017, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Neither of those companies have tested their components on anything other than a SS with 455hp.

How do you know? Those BMR parts are top quality. They blow the crap GM threw on this car in the rear-end away. Those big oval cut outs were laughable. I've tested the BMR suspension parts on my car at WOT doing 0-60 pulls and getting my rear-end so loose that I could read my license plate. I'm not sponsored by anyone and will give them an A+.

LesBaer · 01-10-2017, 07:28 AM

Hey can anyone that has these sway bars still in a box give me an approximate weight? If you can just hold the box and stand on a bathroom scale and then subtract your weight, that's good enough for me. Thanks I appreciate it. I don't have any doubt that they work, but I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth it to me to add them vs. the added weight. I'm really happy with the handling of this car with just the upper and lower trailing arm swap out I did.

Garys16SS · 01-10-2017, 04:32 PM

I picked up my ZL1/1Le sway bars today and weighed them and the one weighs 25.1# and the other weighs 28.4# +/- .2#........ they are fairly heavy. This is based on a bathroom scale and each sway being weighed 5 times and averaged and includes the bushings and clamps. The bars are 26mm and 28mm. ( NOTE: A 1" dia. steel bar weighs about 2.5# per foot.) Hope this helps.

JaxChris · 01-10-2017, 05:47 PM

The BMR upper & lower trailing arms is a must have for every SS.

LesBaer · 01-11-2017, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Garys16SS

I picked up my ZL1/1Le sway bars today and weighed them and the one weighs 25.1# and the other weighs 28.4# +/- .2#........ they are fairly heavy. This is based on a bathroom scale and each sway being weighed 5 times and averaged and includes the bushings and clamps. The bars are 26mm and 28mm. ( NOTE: A 1" dia. steel bar weighs about 2.5# per foot.) Hope this helps.

Wow...Thanks for sending this. That's a lot of added weight! I'm sure they work well but I don't think I'm going to add them since I don't track the car. With the MRC, the BMR arms and bushings, and the Pilot Super Sport tires I've switched over to it handles just fine the way it is for me. I've tried taking tight corners hard and can't even get my tires to squeal. When I intentionally break the rear-end loose, it snaps right back into place without any wobble or tangible flexing. It feels good and very controlled so I'm not going to mess with it unless I start feeling it give or until I start tracking the car.

LibertyHill · 01-11-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LesBaer

It feels good and very controlled so I'm not going to mess with it unless I start feeling it give or until I start tracking the car.

It does until you try the stiffer bars. I love the firmer planted feel and go-cart-like directional changes. The Hellwigs are tubular front and rear:

http://www.hellwigproducts.com/news/...-ss-sway-bars/

LesBaer · 01-11-2017, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LibertyHill

It does until you try the stiffer bars. I love the firmer planted feel and go-cart-like directional changes. The Hellwigs are tubular front and rear:

http://www.hellwigproducts.com/news/...-ss-sway-bars/

Nice find. Do you have any idea how much those weigh?

LibertyHill · 01-11-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LesBaer

Nice find. Do you have any idea how much those weigh?

No it never crossed my mind before the install but I can't imagine its more than a couple pounds each over stock. AutoAnything had the best price I could find.

LesBaer · 01-11-2017, 10:24 AM

I'll shoot them an email to see if I can find out. I might have to do them with this:

http://shraderperformance.com/shop/p...r-seat-delete/

...more $ lol!

LibertyHill · 01-11-2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LesBaer

I'll shoot them an email to see if I can find out. I might have to do them with this:

http://shraderperformance.com/shop/p...r-seat-delete/

...more $ lol!

I gave that some consideration too!

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Originally Posted by JaxChris

The BMR upper & lower trailing arms is a must have for every SS.

They are beautiful and absolutely stronger but I have to question the need for the torsional strength in our application. I assume the ZL1 arms are the same as SS OE, and with the track times that heavier car has put down why bother? And can't that arm/link weight be considered to be at least partially unsprung weight that moves with the rest of the suspension - and therefore must degrade suspension performance to some degree? Granted a heavier swaybar would also have the same effect...

LesBaer · 01-11-2017, 10:51 AM

It depends I guess. Some people might not need the rear upper and lower arms. I absolutely needed some type of upgrade back there because the added power I was putting down once I added my blower and headers was causing heel hop. The stock arms and bushings on the SS just couldn't handle it.

LesBaer · 01-11-2017, 10:53 AM

BTW - here are the weights on the Hellwig parts...looks like you save a few pounds.

Front - Part #55719 -18.6lbs
Rear - Part #55819 - 15.8lbs

01-10-2017, 07:28 AM	#46
LesBaer FMPG Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CT Posts: 1,888	Hey can anyone that has these sway bars still in a box give me an approximate weight? If you can just hold the box and stand on a bathroom scale and then subtract your weight, that's good enough for me. Thanks I appreciate it. I don't have any doubt that they work, but I'm just trying to figure out if it's worth it to me to add them vs. the added weight. I'm really happy with the handling of this car with just the upper and lower trailing arm swap out I did. __________________ Ordered 3/8/16- NFG/Ceramic White, M6, MRC, NPP, 6 pots, blk blade, no sunroof, blk splitter, blk bow ties, dark tails, nav. ARH 1 7/8" ceramic coated full sys w/NPP; Maggie 9.2psi (85mm); Jannetty rough idle cam(TSP), tune and LT4 fuel system; Forgeline VX1 Black PVD (20x10,11); R88R 315's; ALPriority; BMR rear arms, bushings, DS loop; RF intake (red); nGauge 93 octane: 712rwhp, 654rwtq / E85 (E66 mix): 734rwhp, 674rwtq (SuperFlow Dyno)

01-10-2017, 04:32 PM	#47
Garys16SS Drives: 2016 SS, BLACK, MANUAL Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: pittsburgh, pa Posts: 277	I picked up my ZL1/1Le sway bars today and weighed them and the one weighs 25.1# and the other weighs 28.4# +/- .2#........ they are fairly heavy. This is based on a bathroom scale and each sway being weighed 5 times and averaged and includes the bushings and clamps. The bars are 26mm and 28mm. ( NOTE: A 1" dia. steel bar weighs about 2.5# per foot.) Hope this helps. __________________ 2016 Black/Black SS, 6speed, MRC, Roto-Fab air intake, Vitesse controller, 1 7/8" headers and exhaust from Stainless Works complete with nonNPP mufflers and 5"outlets, Katech ported TB, Moroso catch can, MRR M017 polished powder wheels, Eibach lowering springs, and BMR upper/ lower trailing arms and upper control arms. ZL1/1le sway bars and Magnusson Supercharger with Jannetty tune. Stay Tuned!!!......More to come. 2014 Camaro Ashen grey, 3.6, 6 speed, Vararam intake, Elite catch can, chrome wheels, and Vitesse controller. 2003 SSR red, 2016 Vette Last edited by Garys16SS; 01-10-2017 at 04:57 PM.

01-11-2017, 10:24 AM	#53
LesBaer FMPG Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CT Posts: 1,888	I'll shoot them an email to see if I can find out. I might have to do them with this: http://shraderperformance.com/shop/p...r-seat-delete/ ...more $ lol! __________________ Ordered 3/8/16- NFG/Ceramic White, M6, MRC, NPP, 6 pots, blk blade, no sunroof, blk splitter, blk bow ties, dark tails, nav. ARH 1 7/8" ceramic coated full sys w/NPP; Maggie 9.2psi (85mm); Jannetty rough idle cam(TSP), tune and LT4 fuel system; Forgeline VX1 Black PVD (20x10,11); R88R 315's; ALPriority; BMR rear arms, bushings, DS loop; RF intake (red); nGauge 93 octane: 712rwhp, 654rwtq / E85 (E66 mix): 734rwhp, 674rwtq (SuperFlow Dyno)

01-11-2017, 10:53 AM	#56
LesBaer FMPG Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CT Posts: 1,888	BTW - here are the weights on the Hellwig parts...looks like you save a few pounds. Front - Part #55719 -18.6lbs Rear - Part #55819 - 15.8lbs __________________ Ordered 3/8/16- NFG/Ceramic White, M6, MRC, NPP, 6 pots, blk blade, no sunroof, blk splitter, blk bow ties, dark tails, nav. ARH 1 7/8" ceramic coated full sys w/NPP; Maggie 9.2psi (85mm); Jannetty rough idle cam(TSP), tune and LT4 fuel system; Forgeline VX1 Black PVD (20x10,11); R88R 315's; ALPriority; BMR rear arms, bushings, DS loop; RF intake (red); nGauge 93 octane: 712rwhp, 654rwtq / E85 (E66 mix): 734rwhp, 674rwtq (SuperFlow Dyno)

01-10-2017, 05:47 PM	#48
JaxChris Drives: '16 2SS GD1 MX0 NPP F55 IO6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,298	The BMR upper & lower trailing arms is a must have for every SS.

01-11-2017, 10:51 AM	#55
LesBaer FMPG Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CT Posts: 1,888	It depends I guess. Some people might not need the rear upper and lower arms. I absolutely needed some type of upgrade back there because the added power I was putting down once I added my blower and headers was causing heel hop. The stock arms and bushings on the SS just couldn't handle it. __________________ Ordered 3/8/16- NFG/Ceramic White, M6, MRC, NPP, 6 pots, blk blade, no sunroof, blk splitter, blk bow ties, dark tails, nav. ARH 1 7/8" ceramic coated full sys w/NPP; Maggie 9.2psi (85mm); Jannetty rough idle cam(TSP), tune and LT4 fuel system; Forgeline VX1 Black PVD (20x10,11); R88R 315's; ALPriority; BMR rear arms, bushings, DS loop; RF intake (red); nGauge 93 octane: 712rwhp, 654rwtq / E85 (E66 mix): 734rwhp, 674rwtq (SuperFlow Dyno)

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