[Hypertrophy]

But what about the cost of "owning" a Camaro vs. a Corvette? Is the corvette any more expensive to repair/maintain than a Camaro?

I also need clarification, if I'm following correctly (no guarantee there) the talk in this thread implies that you can get a new "equally equipped" Corvette for the same price as the fully optioned 6th gen SS Camaro? MSRP is $55k for the least expensive Corvette without any options. But your saying that dealers will knock off nearly $20k to bring it back (after adding options) down to $50k that the loaded 2SS costs?

Or are you just saying that its possible to get "a" corvette for $50k?

Thanks, I'll take my answer off the air.

[Whis]

Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

But what about the cost of "owning" a Camaro vs. a Corvette? Is the corvette any more expensive to repair/maintain than a Camaro?

I also need clarification, if I'm following correctly (no guarantee there) the talk in this thread implies that you can get a new "equally equipped" Corvette for the same price as the fully optioned 6th gen SS Camaro? MSRP is $55k for the least expensive Corvette without any options. But your saying that dealers will knock off nearly $20k to bring it back (after adding options) down to $50k that the loaded 2SS costs?

Or are you just saying that its possible to get "a" corvette for $50k?

Thanks, I'll take my answer off the air.

Noory can't answer this one! Nor any others...

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

But what about the cost of "owning" a Camaro vs. a Corvette? Is the corvette any more expensive to repair/maintain than a Camaro?

I also need clarification, if I'm following correctly (no guarantee there) the talk in this thread implies that you can get a new "equally equipped" Corvette for the same price as the fully optioned 6th gen SS Camaro? MSRP is $55k for the least expensive Corvette without any options. But your saying that dealers will knock off nearly $20k to bring it back (after adding options) down to $50k that the loaded 2SS costs?

Or are you just saying that its possible to get "a" corvette for $50k?

Thanks, I'll take my answer off the air.

No a 2SS is much better equipped than the cheapest C7 which is a 1LT. The comparable 1SS is only $37k.

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[Tr6]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

I would never buy the Z51 package. total waste of money for a street car. I can drive my Corvette just as hard on the street without the Z51 package. You can't get the benefit out of any of Z51 features unless you are on the race track tracking the car. And the 2SS does not have any more bells and whistles than the Corvette. For me, base Corvette vs a Camaro with all the gingerbread, the Corvette wins everytime...Because the base Corvette is not like the old days when you only got a stripped down version for a base car, it has every electronic, mechanical, etc. etc. feature you need. Again, for a street car since the base Corvette is so super as it comes, on the street the dry sump oiling, extra pucks in brakes, bigger tires are all useless to get to point A to point B more enjoyably than the standard corvette. When you had drum brakes upgraded to disk brakes, 300 horsepower upgraded to 435 horsepower, etc. like in the mid 60 Corvettes it was worth the extra to get upgraded vette. Not like that anymore. Same electronic dash features, brakes stop you on a dime, can't safely go around any corner on the street needing more tire on it than standard Corvette.

You saying 2SS not having more bells and whistles than a C7 flat out tells me you lack of knowledge of the 2SS. The creature of comforts the 2SS has is more than ANY (1/2/3LT stingray AND 1/2/3LT zo6) c7 which is actually a FACT. Not just by my experience, knowledge and research but also by actually c7 owners that I do know and have seen the vehicle since I have taken delivery. I have been very familiar with c7's since 2013. Please do not get me wrong, I will NEVER "bash" or "belittle" c7's. I LOVE the c7, it is an absolutely amazing machine. A base c7 with absolutely NO options vs a 1SS or even a 2SS with absolutely NO options a USED C7 is still MORE expensive than a NEW 1SS. Not to even mention comparing a brand new vehicle to a USED vehicle is just absurd.

A non-Z51 vette is good but a Z51 is actually GREAT even on NON-TRACK environment... No eLSD, no rear swarbar, no MRC, no NPP (which npp is still cheaper than aftermarket) is just some of the lack non z51 has... Which if you did get a z51 you could not only tell the difference in the STREETS but also realize how much more of an upgrade z51 is and worth every dime for it. Just like MRC and NPP.

As for the cost of ownership... Insurance is actually higher on the c7 than the 2SS by a bit, not thousands but a good 200 bucks (for me) which of course will differ PER PERSON but insuring a camaro will ALWAYS be cheaper than a c7. Repairing a C7 is still more expensive than a camaro (still not by much but it is) and also the fact that tires are more expensive for the c7.

[alaskajoel]

This debate is silly. A 3LT Vette is a lot more than 2SS, but you know what? The only things that matter are the options you specifically are interested in. I hate package pricing, but I understand why it's done. I've had heads up display...don't want it. I want leather, don't care about heated or cooled. Want better sound then a 1SS. I want a lot of open sky above me, and you better believe a 2SS camaro convertible will be ridiculously expensive... I would guess about the same as a 1LT Vette. Sport roof on the vette is preferable to the Camaro soft top in my opinion, so considering the options that are important to ME...the base vette with leather, 8" carplay display, bose audio and awesome 7spd is a serious contender. It might not be for you if you are buying the 2SS for the goodies that would require a 3LT, need rear seats, etc. but for me...I don't care about that stuff.

Unfortunately, I can't find this elusive $48k Corvette...lowest I've had from a dealer is $51k between my supplier pricing or any other negotiating I've done.

[LesserO2Evils]

The new 2SS has many things over the C7. ANY C7. Interior/amenity wise. Its the only reason I dumped my pursuit of a C7. No justification for it anymore. Negligible performance increase- significant price increase- with less features.

[SSport16]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

Absolutely no exception. Found several dealers at that price. I have no military, GM or any other discounts. Made a call, 10 minutes later had it ordered, 6 weeks later I picked it up and drove it home. That simple. I love the new Camaro and will own one but if I wanted to run the price up to $50,000 then it is in Corvette pricing and Corvette wins everytime in that decision. With the Cadillac undercarriage and all the Corvette electronics and Corvette engine the Camaro is fabulous many times over. But when at the same price I get a true American sports car, 50-50 weight distribution, value that depreciations very little each year. 7 speed tranny, etc. etc. the Corvette wins every tim. Drove the Corvette around town for an hour this morning and it is a super, super, super dream car to drive and I believe the Camaro will be equally fun, but have to be in it at mid $35,000 price to be feasible financially for me. For others that prefer the Camaro over the Corvette, buy one today at whatever price you are comfortable at paying. You will get your money's worth every time you step down into the cockpit and take off with the 455 horsepower motor with TONS of torque............. To me the Corvette is the best car ever built in the history of the automobile and expect the Camaro, again to me, to be a real close second overall and first in its class.

Yeah I see these from Kerbeck all the time, they sell so many Corvettes they offer incredible deals, they are good people too!

[daytonagary]

Originally Posted by Tr6

You saying 2SS not having more bells and whistles than a C7 flat out tells me you lack of knowledge of the 2SS. The creature of comforts the 2SS has is more than ANY (1/2/3LT stingray AND 1/2/3LT zo6) c7 which is actually a FACT. Not just by my experience, knowledge and research but also by actually c7 owners that I do know and have seen the vehicle since I have taken delivery. I have been very familiar with c7's since 2013. Please do not get me wrong, I will NEVER "bash" or "belittle" c7's. I LOVE the c7, it is an absolutely amazing machine. A base c7 with absolutely NO options vs a 1SS or even a 2SS with absolutely NO options a USED C7 is still MORE expensive than a NEW 1SS. Not to even mention comparing a brand new vehicle to a USED vehicle is just absurd.

A non-Z51 vette is good but a Z51 is actually GREAT even on NON-TRACK environment... No eLSD, no rear swarbar, no MRC, no NPP (which npp is still cheaper than aftermarket) is just some of the lack non z51 has... Which if you did get a z51 you could not only tell the difference in the STREETS but also realize how much more of an upgrade z51 is and worth every dime for it. Just like MRC and NPP.

As for the cost of ownership... Insurance is actually higher on the c7 than the 2SS by a bit, not thousands but a good 200 bucks (for me) which of course will differ PER PERSON but insuring a camaro will ALWAYS be cheaper than a c7. Repairing a C7 is still more expensive than a camaro (still not by much but it is) and also the fact that tires are more expensive for the c7.

LIke I said in previous thread, those who want a camaro with full options more than a vette and want to spend over $50,000 then buy it and enjoy it as it will be a beautiful driving car. I have put 7000 miles on my Corvette and am amazed at it as much getting into to drive it this morning as I was the day I drove it home from the dealer. Camaro experience should be the same with great Cadillac undercarriage, Corvette engine and Corvette electronics etc. in the interior. But for me there is not one thing extra on a 2SS versus the 1SS I want on my Camaro other than the leather seats and I will have them put on my 1SS for less than a $1000. All the other bells and whistles on the 2SS are not wanted by me. Others, like you, will pay the difference in price and will be proud to have those features. Not me. And again, paying only $48,000 for my NEW Corvette lets me not even consider paying anywhere near $50,000 on a Camaro. I am buying a 1SS, will add leather upholstery on seats, will add the factory lowering kit and latest optional spoiler, paint on the racing stripes on hood and trunk area, put on aftermarket wheels to make it stand out from the crowd and still have less than $40,000 in the car. The NPP, the MRC, the HUD, etc. etc. etc. etc. from 2SS not of any value to me. Everyone has different tastes and budgets and yours is just different than mine.

[daytonagary]

Originally Posted by SSport16

Yeah I see these from Kerbeck all the time, they sell so many Corvettes they offer incredible deals, they are good people too!

yes and many other dealers too. Easy purchase from several discount dealers across the Eastern US. I called about buying a Corvette, was on the phone for less than 10 minutes in placing my order and purchasing at $4000 off MSRP where my local dealer wanted thousands over MSRP, and waited only 6 weeks for the car to be built and I drove it home. At that time MSRP was $52000 but now is over $55,000 so 50 to 51 thousand can be found many places now for sales price. I hope these same dealers or others will be also deep discounting the Camaro by the time I am ready to order in a few months. Mainly waiting on the new rear spoiler shown at SEMA to be manufactured so I can order it on car from factory. Should be first of year according to GM reps at SEMA.

[American Legend]

Originally Posted by Tr6

If there is ANY ADM (additional dealership mark up) over MSRP, IMMEDIATELY report it to Chevy Regional/Zone managers ASAP. I was told that they frown upon that extremely and was told to report any such event.

Glad to hear that is the case.

[Hypertrophy]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

yes and many other dealers too. Easy purchase from several discount dealers across the Eastern US. ... I hope these same dealers or others will be also deep discounting the Camaro by the time I am ready to order in a few months. Mainly waiting on the new rear spoiler shown at SEMA to be manufactured so I can order it on car from factory. Should be first of year according to GM reps at SEMA.

That would be awesome. I live in Utah. I don't hear about those kinds of deals out here where everybody has at least two cars. Would the cost of delivery this far west cut into that discount significantly? For example, I've considered buying from Becky but figured the cost of delivery would negate any cost savings.

[flby55]

You can still buy from Becky and just have a courtesy delivery done to a Chevy dealer in your area that will do it for $200-400

[Marine Corps]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

Agree....you can buy a new Corvette for less than that....

More like $55,000 for a 1LT Corvette plus TT&L.

[Marine Corps]

Originally Posted by Tr6

They CAN take away allocations and make the dealerships life not so easy or even if they piss Chevy off, they can pull their license away from the dealership and cannot sell any Chevy'... Worse case. Chevy just need to be aware of it. They do not get on google and search who is doing ADM BUT once you bring it to their attention, is all they ask.

Chevy wants to sell cars through their dealerships in the highest volume possible. They are aware of public opinion and don't want a lot of unhappy customers because of high ADM's. They will step in when the noise gets the loudest and ask the dealership to back off, but they will certainly not revoke the dealership's franchise licence for selling too many cars at too high a profit for high demand cars. I've never heard of that happening.