[Kerry]

After my newfew drove my car. He dropped it down to second. I said just hit it. His expression said it all and he ran it up to 140. He said quote it just keeps pulling. I love the way it just keeps pulling. He says he wants to put one on his wifes scat pack. Just my experiences

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Kerry

I really like my procharger. My nefew has a helcat and it pulls hard but seems to pull harder right off throttle and sort of lays over on the top end. I beat him way back when I only had about 6.5 pds was supposed to be 7 base stage 2 procharger setup with the procharger tune. I have added since then and have meth injection stock fuel system headers into stock npp lt2 stock motor with wisco pistons stock rods. Here is my tq curve at 13.5 pds and e60. Even with 305 35 20 nitto 2s it spins. First is unusable on the street. How would it do with pd I have no idea and if your on the track with prep pd might be better but on the street its about traction now. So I think the procharger is better as when I ran the helkitty it was traction problems for him. we did 40 rolls 60 rolls and in all cases i pulled him no problem. He wanted to do a dig from dead stop and with launch control off on my car I beat him a good car by I would say 60 with launch control on it was 3 cars in the same distance.

What ever you decide good luck with the build and I am truley enjoying mine, but I love to tinker and have more ideas for makeing it better. lol HELP its a drug lol!!!

Comparing a Hellcat to a 6th gen is pointless far as traction...6th gen chassis is far superior. It's a known fact HC's don't hook. What does yours dragy 0-60, 0-100, 1/8 on the street?

[Kerry]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Comparing a Hellcat to a 6th gen is pointless far as traction...6th gen chassis is far superior. It's a known fact HC's don't hook. What does yours dragy 0-60, 0-100, 1/8 on the street?

Just saw this

I dont know what any of this was when up against the helcat.


but back in march of 22 put down 0 to 60 of 2.93
0 to 100 6.34
1/8 th time is 7.01 at 106.73
Iv made quite a few improvements since then this is pump gas and meth

Terrible traction on the street with a 1.8 60 ft

[KingLT1]

Good time... my inferior Whipple does ok. Full weight car on 20's launching from 2nd gear on the street. No meth, stock cam, stock heads, stock rods/pistons, E60.

[Kerry]

Good times King

[driftking123]

For what it's worth in doing a lot of research, the ring gap is false from some earlier posts.

The ring package is also new and thinner. Gen ll
engines started with a 1.5mm top and 2nd ring
with a 3.0 mm oil ring .Some later engines used a
1.2mm / 1.5mm / 2.5mm package. There has
been a lot of misinformation out there about the
new Gen V engines using thinner rings, so we
asked our friends at Scoggin-Dickey Performance
Center to measure the rings on the LT1 and they
found the ring package at 1.2mm / 1.5mm/
2.5mm, which is the same as the earlier Gen IV
engines. Thanks to Nicky Fowler, Kurt Urban, and
Keith Wilson at Scoggin-Dickey for clearing up
this misinformation

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by driftking123

For what it's worth in doing a lot of research, the ring gap is false from some earlier posts.

The ring package is also new and thinner. Gen ll
engines started with a 1.5mm top and 2nd ring
with a 3.0 mm oil ring .Some later engines used a
1.2mm / 1.5mm / 2.5mm package. There has
been a lot of misinformation out there about the
new Gen V engines using thinner rings, so we
asked our friends at Scoggin-Dickey Performance
Center to measure the rings on the LT1 and they
found the ring package at 1.2mm / 1.5mm/
2.5mm, which is the same as the earlier Gen IV
engines. Thanks to Nicky Fowler, Kurt Urban, and
Keith Wilson at Scoggin-Dickey for clearing up
this misinformation

I don't recall ring thickness being discussed in this thread. We were discussing ring gap which is the clearance between both ends of the ring. What you quoted is referencing the thickness of the ring pack used.

[95 imp]

IMO, it has nothing to do with ring gap and everything to do with low octane. Taking a 11.5/1 motor that already needs 93 octane, and thinking you can still use 93 w/ boost (added compression) is the problem. E is a cheapest way to get some extra octane.

[Kerry]

Meth is the cheapest way I made 930 on pump 93 and meth injection 20 pds stock cam heads

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by 95 imp

IMO, it has nothing to do with ring gap and everything to do with low octane. Taking a 11.5/1 motor that already needs 93 octane, and thinking you can still use 93 w/ boost (added compression) is the problem. E is a cheapest way to get some extra octane.

Agree on octane disagree about ring gap. If ring gap didn't matter piston companies like Wiseco wouldn't recommend .022-.028 ring gap for boost applications.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by 95 imp

IMO, it has nothing to do with ring gap and everything to do with low octane. Taking a 11.5/1 motor that already needs 93 octane, and thinking you can still use 93 w/ boost (added compression) is the problem. E is a cheapest way to get some extra octane.

E is fantastic and agreed.

Originally Posted by Kerry

Meth is the cheapest way I made 930 on pump 93 and meth injection 20 pds stock cam heads

Meth is also the best way to blow up a stock bottom end LT1….

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Agree on octane disagree about ring gap. If ring gap didn't matter piston companies like Wiseco wouldn't recommend .022-.028 ring gap for boost applications.

[driftking123]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

I don't recall ring thickness being discussed in this thread. We were discussing ring gap which is the clearance between both ends of the ring. What you quoted is referencing the thickness of the ring pack used.

I wasn't looking for this info, I just stumbled on it. And was like, hey I remember a post about rings. I guess I should've paid better attention. My bad.

Also, you seem to know a lot and I probably shouldn't be on this thread since you are talking about the gap in the cylinder, that's over my head. I'm just a middle aged dude who does most of his own work in my garage. I have put a supercharger on a v6 Challenger, but I'm lost with all the tech talk. Cam lobes, tolerances, pressure this, pressure that. I guess I've been lucky with the mods I've put on my cars haven't blown up. Ha

Against everyone's advice, I'm probably going with an ECS (probably do myself) and calling it a day. I have cai, cat delete, ported TB and x-pipe to the stock npp. So adding this sc is just the topping I'm looking for. Not dragging the car nor have I tracked it. However, I want to track this year, but never have.

As they say-send it. Lol

[KingLT1]

Nothing wrong with a ECS setup. And you are welcome to post here any time. I applaud you for doing your own work. Good luck with your build!!

[driftking123]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Nothing wrong with a ECS setup. And you are welcome to post here any time. I applaud you for doing your own work. Good luck with your build!!

Thank you sir. . In your opinion, that setup ok without getting forged rods/pistons?