ZL1 vs Hellcat - Page 37

Heavymetal454 · 07-12-2016, 04:18 PM

The video clearly shows two separate driving events. Just saying.

laynlo15 · 07-12-2016, 05:35 PM

The 10 speed auto will kick the ass of the hellcat. It won't be the same as a cts-v with a stick. Its going to keep the R's up and its not going to be pretty for the kitty.

Speedy1975 · 07-12-2016, 06:38 PM

^^ LOL If you say so.

bluHawk141 · 07-12-2016, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavymetal454

Uh excuse me but where is 199 mph? I see kilometers.

I saw 320 kilometers per hour. Which is 198.84 mph. Not sure where you saw 199?

Heavymetal454 · 07-12-2016, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bluHawk141

I saw 320 kilometers per hour. Which is 198.84 mph. Not sure where you saw 199?

False advertising. Lol

bluHawk141 · 07-13-2016, 05:54 AM

That's very possible, could be on a dyno, sure seems like it just keeps pulling.

Heavymetal454 · 07-13-2016, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bluHawk141

That's very possible, could be on a dyno, sure seems like it just keeps pulling.

Photoshop. It's the new Prius concept car!

newmoon · 07-13-2016, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro19

It will definitely be lighter by at least 150 to 200lbs. More power? Probably 10hp unless the ZL1 surpasses the Z06 which would be suprising.

The ZL1 will definitely get the hellcat from a dig with the auto. A roll on will definitely be a good race. Can't wait to see.

I agree with this, from a dig the ZL1 should it, if it packs 650+hp. From a roll the Hellcat's 707 underated hp is going to be awfully hard to overcome. Also who knows if Dodge is planning an upcoming surprise with the Hellcat to ensure it stays on top.

NB2017ZL1 · 07-13-2016, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by newmoon

I agree with this, from a dig the ZL1 should it, if it packs 650+hp. From a roll the Hellcat's 707 underated hp is going to be awfully hard to overcome. Also who knows if Dodge is planning an upcoming surprise with the Hellcat to ensure it stays on top.

I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this so here it goes I'll think out loud...

The Cat is an amazing straight line car. Not sure we will even have a chance. It's a very one dimensional car.. Take it around a track with the ZL1 and we will lose the Cat in the first turn then the parties over.

I for one want a multi dimensional car that does multiple things well. That's the ZL1 2017...

Amen!

John Galtman · 07-13-2016, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bluHawk141

That's very possible, could be on a dyno, sure seems like it just keeps pulling.

It's not a dyno.

188mph (304kmh) Then he just stopped pulling.

DenverTaco07 · 07-13-2016, 08:42 AM

They are both going to be(HC is and ZL1 will be) very fast and capable cars - the question is which one do you prefer and why? Which car "does it for you"?

Personally, I can appreciate the beastly-ness of the Hellcat, the 707 HP, and the very well executed retro look. However, I'm not all that into the retro look, i'm not all that into the size and weight of it, I'm not all that into the skinny tires, and while 707 is amazing, there's more to performance than HP (why don't we talk about torque, they are equal ZL1 and HC). so for me - I'll pass on the kitty from an ownership point of view.
What I like about the ZL1 is it will have plenty of power, better PWR than the HC, I like the modern design with subtle cues to its heritage, I like that it is more than just a boat with a huge engine - it's a performance car, not a muscle car like the HC.

To each their own.

NB2017ZL1 · 07-13-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

They are both going to be(HC is and ZL1 will be) very fast and capable cars - the question is which one do you prefer and why? Which car "does it for you"?

Personally, I can appreciate the beastly-ness of the Hellcat, the 707 HP, and the very well executed retro look. However, I'm not all that into the retro look, i'm not all that into the size and weight of it, I'm not all that into the skinny tires, and while 707 is amazing, there's more to performance than HP (why don't we talk about torque, they are equal ZL1 and HC). so for me - I'll pass on the kitty from an ownership point of view.
What I like about the ZL1 is it will have plenty of power, better PWR than the HC, I like the modern design with subtle cues to its heritage, I like that it is more than just a boat with a huge engine - it's a performance car, not a muscle car like the HC.

To each their own.

Ditto! X2.

Very well said!

Jeffro19 · 07-13-2016, 10:40 AM

The hellcat is great at straight line speed and I'm sure it can handle ok. But the ZL1 will do everything great. Gonna be a sweet car

Boilermaker128 · 07-13-2016, 10:59 AM

the ZL1 would need 675 to make it a for sure kill in a line, otherwise drivers race with hellcat having mainstream popularity thinking the kitty is king. ZL1 will be the under dog from the factory. A better platform once you start throwing down $$ on mods. Who knows maybe they will offer a stage kit you can order from factory with waranty, intake re-tune 650-670. Really hoping for warranty approved gm parts.

07-13-2016, 08:42 AM	#515
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	They are both going to be(HC is and ZL1 will be) very fast and capable cars - the question is which one do you prefer and why? Which car "does it for you"? Personally, I can appreciate the beastly-ness of the Hellcat, the 707 HP, and the very well executed retro look. However, I'm not all that into the retro look, i'm not all that into the size and weight of it, I'm not all that into the skinny tires, and while 707 is amazing, there's more to performance than HP (why don't we talk about torque, they are equal ZL1 and HC). so for me - I'll pass on the kitty from an ownership point of view. What I like about the ZL1 is it will have plenty of power, better PWR than the HC, I like the modern design with subtle cues to its heritage, I like that it is more than just a boat with a huge engine - it's a performance car, not a muscle car like the HC. To each their own. __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

07-13-2016, 10:40 AM	#517
Jeffro19 Drives: 2018 ZL1 6M, Silverado High Country Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 2,101	The hellcat is great at straight line speed and I'm sure it can handle ok. But the ZL1 will do everything great. Gonna be a sweet car __________________ Previous Camaro's - 2002 Z28 6 spd manual, T tops, Sebring Silver - 2010 2SS 6 spd manual, Cyber Gray Metallic Current Vehicles - 2018 ZL1 Red Hot 6 spd manual, Carbon Hood, Sunroof 2019 Silverado High Country, Daily Driver

07-12-2016, 04:18 PM	#505
Heavymetal454 Account Suspended Drives: '69 RS Pro Street Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 939	The video clearly shows two separate driving events. Just saying.

07-12-2016, 05:35 PM	#506
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	The 10 speed auto will kick the ass of the hellcat. It won't be the same as a cts-v with a stick. Its going to keep the R's up and its not going to be pretty for the kitty.

07-12-2016, 06:38 PM	#507
Speedy1975 FASTER! Drives: Challenger Hellcat, 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 2,244	^^ LOL If you say so.

07-13-2016, 05:54 AM	#510
bluHawk141 Drives: 2015 Sierra Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Manhattan, IL Posts: 78	That's very possible, could be on a dyno, sure seems like it just keeps pulling.

07-13-2016, 10:59 AM	#518
Boilermaker128 Drives: 2010 CobaltSSTC Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 515	the ZL1 would need 675 to make it a for sure kill in a line, otherwise drivers race with hellcat having mainstream popularity thinking the kitty is king. ZL1 will be the under dog from the factory. A better platform once you start throwing down $$ on mods. Who knows maybe they will offer a stage kit you can order from factory with waranty, intake re-tune 650-670. Really hoping for warranty approved gm parts.

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