[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Absolutely, and I would for all those reasons too, just NOT an R. I think the 500 will eat in to R sales. I also think you will see non-R 350's sales price getting more flexible and they already have a bit.

Same, new 350 wing looks great in person. A Ford dealer here in Wesley Chapel Fl told me their gt500s will definitely receive adm's but they have a 19 gt350 msrp'd at 69k and they're letting it go for 67k. Good news for those on the market for one.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Same, new 350 wing looks great in person. A Ford dealer here in Wesley Chapel Fl told me their gt500s will definitely receive adm's but they have a 19 gt350 msrp'd at 69k and they're letting it go for 67k. Good news for those on the market for one.

You shouldn't be paying MSRP, nevermind ADM on a 2019 GT350. I purchased mine several weeks ago at $3500 under MSRP.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by newmoon

You shouldn't be paying MSRP, nevermind ADM on a 2019 GT350. I purchased mine several weeks ago at $3500 under MSRP.

Nice move, and good price! Pls post a pic, stripes or no? They look so good with stripes, and in any color really.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

Same, new 350 wing looks great in person. A Ford dealer here in Wesley Chapel Fl told me their gt500s will definitely receive adm's but they have a 19 gt350 msrp'd at 69k and they're letting it go for 67k. Good news for those on the market for one.

The used market is also flooded with deals. It's a hard car to buy a used, considering the possible engine issues, I would need piece of mind knowing it was taken care of by previous owner.

My work neighbor got rid of her '17, and bought an orange 19. Wing looks great, Cup 2's not so much lol. Wish they still came stock with MPSS's. She needs a new set already.

She dumped the '17 because she had oil consumption issues, but she bought another one which says a lot about the driving experience. She loves it that much. When I am ready to buy, a 350 will certainly get cross shopped and test driven at a minimum.

How you loving it Newmoon? That where you have been these last few days, out driving that bad boy? I bet the sound is intoxicating. HAHAHAHAHA....I wouldn't blame you!

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by newmoon

You shouldn't be paying MSRP, nevermind ADM on a 2019 GT350. I purchased mine several weeks ago at $3500 under MSRP.

I wouldn't buy a gt350 and I didn't say anything about adm's on gt350s. I said a dealership near me, that is knows for adm's and will have them on the 500s, has a gt350 2k under msrp without even hassling which was not the case there up until recently.

You played it well waiting to pull the trigger on one until now imo.

Out of curiosity, obviously it's the better handling and balanced car over the boss, but how does it compare to the boss in a straight line? I imagine in 0 to 60 and 1/4 it's not better by much but at higher speeds it might be appreciably faster?

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Nice move, and good price! Pls post a pic, stripes or no? They look so good with stripes, and in any color really.

Lets try these links.

https://ibb.co/1ndgbvG

https://ibb.co/4pPrfm8

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Lets try these links.

https://ibb.co/1ndgbvG

https://ibb.co/4pPrfm8

Wow, looks awesome! Thanks for posting these, great color combo with the black stripes.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

I wouldn't buy a gt350 and I didn't say anything about adm's on gt350s. I said a dealership near me, that is knows for adm's and will have them on the 500s, has a gt350 2k under msrp without even hassling which was not the case there up until recently.

You played it well waiting to pull the trigger on one until now imo.

Out of curiosity, obviously it's the better handling and balanced car over the boss, but how does it compare to the boss in a straight line? I imagine in 0 to 60 and 1/4 it's not better by much but at higher speeds it might be appreciably faster?

1st thing I will say is the I absolutely loved the Boss, it was a blast to drive, the rawness, sounds, and fury up to 7800-rpms was great. I believe the Boss was reviewed at 12:30s in the quarter and mine was tuned so probably a bit quicker. Never did take it to the strip though.

Comparing the GT350 to the Boss I'd give the win to my Boss under 3500 rpms, it pulled harder and sounded better. Over 3500 the GT350 is Alive! Where the Boss appeared to be running out of stream at 7000-rpm, it feels like the 350 is just still pulling incredibly hard. Handling wise no comparison while the Boss did well for what it was on the garbage Pirelli tires, the GT350 would have left it like it was standing still. The GT350s balance on the Cup2s is incredible, the car is planted. I will run out of my tolerence of fear long before this car runs out of capability.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Technically we are both right if you really want to argue semantics lol. I am not sure how it works in your state but here in IL one of the few things they have right is when you trade a car in.

Yes you are correct you will have paid for the first vehicle, and you are using equity in that vehicle to lower the price of the new vehicle. Here in il if you are buying a 70K you pay sales tax on 70K dollar sale price. If you trade in a car worth 30K you are only getting taxed on the remaining sales price of the car which would be 40K so technically according to the state and all the accompanying paperwork the final sale price, the price you paid for this car would be 40k for this particular example lol.

You are only being taxed a certain amount because you were already taxed the other amount. And I'm not trying to nitpick with you but it is not semantics. You are still paying a Certain amount for a car. You're mixing price, what you pay, and value. You paid a certain amount for the original car. Later that car has a value of a certain amount. You trade it in and you get that value applied to the new car. Then you pay the remaining balance. The amount you paid never changed. If I buy a pair of pants at Walmart for 20 bucks, then return those pants and get store credit of 15 bucks, and then buy a shirt that costs 30 bucks, use my store credit of 15 bucks and pay another 15 bucks in cash, then I just paid 35 bucks for the shirt. Because the total amount of money that left my pocket is $35. Not $15, not $20, but $35.

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

You played it well waiting to pull the trigger on one until now imo.

The problem tho is that nobody should have to wait three years to buy the car they want. I could see waiting a few months to find a great deal or waiting 1-2 years for one to pop up on the used market and get it at a lower price. But it is a shame that he had to wait all this time to get a new one. I got my ZL1 at MSRP in 2017 and I was ready and willing to pay it. I thought it was a great deal and didn't even try to haggle the price down. They then told me I would qualify for $3K in rebates and I was amazed. That was in early 2017 making me one of the first people in NJ to have a ZL1 in their first year of production. Now 2-3 years later you still can't even get the lower performing GT350R for what a fully loaded ZL1 would be at MSRP with no discounts whatsoever. And even the GT350 with a discount is still right around what a moderately optioned ZL1 would cost. Which is a shame that with Ford performance comes at such a high price.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by GuywithL86

Gt500 will be just like a slightly slower dodge demon, there’s not a shred of doubt in my mind after watching all the attempts. It will have a ton of traction issues off the line.

It will probably run anywhere from 10.4 to 11.5 depending on driver, DA, track prep. Just like the demon it will be highly sensitive to that stuff. If you can’t get it to squat it will be slow, if you can it will rip.

I doubt we'll see anyone beat the Evans Special.

[rocket403]

When I bought my RT the MSRP was 44500 we haggled back and fourth on price, I had an existing car loan for 12k on a Dodge that I wanted gone but I didn't want to trade in the car so they worked it out into the price of the RT, in the end ended up paying under 40k for the RT and walked away with both cars.

They also gave me 1500 cash when I told them I was changing my mind on the car to close the deal.

[rocket403]

Congrats Newmoon on the new ride looks real nice with that colour combo and stripes

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by newmoon

1st thing I will say is the I absolutely loved the Boss, it was a blast to drive, the rawness, sounds, and fury up to 7800-rpms was great. I believe the Boss was reviewed at 12:30s in the quarter and mine was tuned so probably a bit quicker. Never did take it to the strip though.

Comparing the GT350 to the Boss I'd give the win to my Boss under 3500 rpms, it pulled harder and sounded better. Over 3500 the GT350 is Alive! Where the Boss appeared to be running out of stream at 7000-rpm, it feels like the 350 is just still pulling incredibly hard. Handling wise no comparison while the Boss did well for what it was on the garbage Pirelli tires, the GT350 would have left it like it was standing still. The GT350s balance on the Cup2s is incredible, the car is planted. I will run out of my tolerence of fear long before this car runs out of capability.

Yea while the Boss did great for what it was and may be the best handling solid axel car I can think of atm, I had no doubt the gt350 is a superior machine handling wise. Plus so so Pirellis vs the best in the psc2s.

Straight line wise the Boss was a beast and is faster than any manual s550 except for the gt350 which it arguably matches according to magazine stats anyways, I didn't see 12.3 but know that it got 12.4 with motortrend which is faster than any 16-19 gt350 except for the latest BDC article gt350 that ran a 12.3, so the Boss is definitely held it's own to this day.

My brother had one and regardless of magazine time or anything like that, the Boss was easy to launch hard consistently which made whooping a lot of cars in the real world routine.

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Lets try these links.

https://ibb.co/1ndgbvG

https://ibb.co/4pPrfm8

Originally Posted by newmoon

1st thing I will say is the I absolutely loved the Boss, it was a blast to drive, the rawness, sounds, and fury up to 7800-rpms was great. I believe the Boss was reviewed at 12:30s in the quarter and mine was tuned so probably a bit quicker. Never did take it to the strip though.

Comparing the GT350 to the Boss I'd give the win to my Boss under 3500 rpms, it pulled harder and sounded better. Over 3500 the GT350 is Alive! Where the Boss appeared to be running out of stream at 7000-rpm, it feels like the 350 is just still pulling incredibly hard. Handling wise no comparison while the Boss did well for what it was on the garbage Pirelli tires, the GT350 would have left it like it was standing still. The GT350s balance on the Cup2s is incredible, the car is planted. I will run out of my tolerence of fear long before this car runs out of capability.

Looks great. Especially with the stripes. The lines I highlighted are an excellent description of what I experienced in a couple high speed runs with the GT350