[Mark20242SS]

I agree, a 5th gen ZL1 or a Z28 might be a good option, I have watched several videos on those, they all like them.
maybe C6 vettes also? Z06 has the 427 in it also.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Mark20242SS

I agree, a 5th gen ZL1 or a Z28 might be a good option, I have watched several videos on those, they all like them.
maybe C6 vettes also? Z06 has the 427 in it also.

Not a fan of the 5th gen Camaro + I’d still have to deal with Camaro short comings as a car. The C6 Z06 is one of my all time favorites but I test drove one and it’s a wild animal lol. The Shelby’s are a little more composed when they are spinning the tires. I also want to sit up higher in cars. Sitting low to the ground has gotten old for me. I prefer the low seating position on track, not the road. The LS7, while probably the best naturally aspirated engine of all time from a performance perspective is unfortunately one of the worst engines from a reliability perspective. Even folks who fix the heads can still run into issues.

[Bosse'sBoss]

Yes the non reliability issue of the C6 Z06 and Shelby GT350 engines is risky and could become very expensive to repair.
A safer bet is that you go for what you originally planned a '12-'13 Mustang Boss that is what you like, just take in consideration that it would be much older than your car, so the cost of maintenance without a warranty could happen.

[ALMN]

Well well, looks like even the upcoming regular 2027 C8s will be receiving the new 6.7 lt ls6 engine, not just the Grand Sport. My guess is 550 hp rating. Now if Chevy also brings the manual transmission back with that engine, we have a winner guys!

[Mark20242SS]

Originally Posted by ALMN

Well well, looks like even the upcoming regular 2027 C8s will be receiving the new 6.7 lt ls6 engine, not just the Grand Sport. My guess is 550 hp rating. Now if Chevy also brings the manual transmission back with that engine, we have a winner guys!

That is cool, had not read that yet.
maybe that opens up using the LT2 for a possible future Camaro? maybe.
also, just happened to be reading a vette post on facebook about how C8's sometimes have transmission issues? they were discussing extended warranties. anyone know if vettes do have issues with that? its a tremec isn't it? probably because its a dual clutch. if chevy does not eventually bring back the Camaro, I may consider going vette in the future after a few years. not many other options with GM.
edit, just now read about that 6.7 in stingrays on gm authority. interesting.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Mark20242SS

That is cool, had not read that yet.
maybe that opens up using the LT2 for a possible future Camaro? maybe.
also, just happened to be reading a vette post on facebook about how C8's sometimes have transmission issues? they were discussing extended warranties. anyone know if vettes do have issues with that? its a tremec isn't it? probably because its a dual clutch. if chevy does not eventually bring back the Camaro, I may consider going vette in the future after a few years. not many other options with GM.
edit, just now read about that 6.7 in stingrays on gm authority. interesting.

The LT2 will NOT be in a Camaro or any other vehicle once the new 6.7 and 5.7 come out. These are being created to pass the new emissions standards that are about to be implemented this year/next year. They are replacements for the 6.2’s and 5.3’s. I’m really excited about these engines. I just hope the 6.7 pulls noticeably better up top than the LT1 and LT2 which die up top.

[bishopts]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

The LT2 will NOT be in a Camaro or any other vehicle once the new 6.7 and 5.7 come out. These are being created to pass the new emissions standards that are about to be implemented this year/next year. They are replacements for the 6.2’s and 5.3’s. I’m really excited about these engines. I just hope the 6.7 pulls noticeably better up top than the LT1 and LT2 which die up top.

Its always a trade off. Gain up top and you're going to lose down low. You can manipulate it with gears but ultimately it comes down to What are you doing with the vehicle. Its hard to build a non dedicated track car with most of its power after 5k because it basically sucks at everything not on a track.
Street performance i would rather build around 6k being the max because it's less likely to come apart at 6k than it is at 8k. And the bulk of the power range is mostly the same range normal driving is.
I really would like to see the higher end performance models being more dedicated to track use and not catering toward daily drivers at all with limited production numbers. Similar to the copo camaro or the original zl1 camaro. Something that when you see it then it's something unique. Unlike our 6th gen ZL1 was so over made it's about as common as an SS.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by bishopts

Its always a trade off. Gain up top and you're going to lose down low. You can manipulate it with gears but ultimately it comes down to What are you doing with the vehicle. Its hard to build a non dedicated track car with most of its power after 5k because it basically sucks at everything not on a track.
Street performance i would rather build around 6k being the max because it's less likely to come apart at 6k than it is at 8k. And the bulk of the power range is mostly the same range normal driving is.
I really would like to see the higher end performance models being more dedicated to track use and not catering toward daily drivers at all with limited production numbers. Similar to the copo camaro or the original zl1 camaro. Something that when you see it then it's something unique. Unlike our 6th gen ZL1 was so over made it's about as common as an SS.

I understand how it works but I’ll counter with something. If you look at Dyno graphs of the LS7 versus the LT1, that engine literally pulls hard EVERYWHERE. So it is possible but that was an expensive engine in an expensive car at the time. I do wish there was an LT engine that pulled just a little harder up top. I’m cool with sacrificing a bit down low. You don’t race from 2k-4K, you race all the way to redline.

I agree that building a pushrod motor past like 7k, it is likely to not last versus DOHC setups.

[bishopts]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

I understand how it works but I’ll counter with something. If you look at Dyno graphs of the LS7 versus the LT1, that engine literally pulls hard EVERYWHERE. So it is possible but that was an expensive engine in an expensive car at the time. I do wish there was an LT engine that pulled just a little harder up top. I’m cool with sacrificing a bit down low. You don’t race from 2k-4K, you race all the way to redline.

I agree that building a pushrod motor past like 7k, it is likely to not last versus DOHC setups.

LS7 was still a mostly square setup. 4.1 bore 4.0 stroke. It was just built with good parts. The newer engines are oversquare. 4.1 bore 3.15 stroke. It ends up being a lower torque but higher rpm setup. Adding the turbo for the ZR1 just kinda makes the mid to high rpm power a whole lot.

Its interesting to see them going to the oversquare setup, most GM v8 builds have kept to square builds or undersquare like the 383 or any stroker motor, to favor low end torque.