[Kamero6]

Originally Posted by GM-ACE

I was making the point that the same LT1 with the 6M was better than the 7M in the Corvette. But if we go by GM's transmission woes of the last 10+ years, the manual will hold up better. They're already looking at class action suits for the 10, albeit mostly in trucks, but that's how the 8 spd problems first arose too.

Thats one of the reasons for the M6. If it is ok from factory, will last a long time. Clutch is not a problem, and I still think the A10 will take a crap one day.
That and AFM not activating in the manual.

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by 302crossram

I find the LT1 is too slow for 3600+lbs of curb weight..


I want a ZL1

Interesting. I'm getting podium placements in my open class racing my LT1-equipped car.

You talking about EV-straight-line accel?

Well then get an EV?

[TorontoLT1]

Bought a 2020 LT1 with an M6 , added Nitto Drag Radials . Traded it for a 2023 1SS with the A10 which arrived March 1st. I am a drag racer and the A10 seems to be quicker by 2 tenths and as good with a stick as you are you cannot outshift the automatic. With all the nannies off and good traction the M6 car bogs a bit off the line due to torque management trying to save the trans and rear end.I used a Jegs Shift light set at 6400 rpm and when that red light flashes there is nothing more fun than that powershift under WOT. A10 is quicker but M6 is more fun.

[Kamero6]

Originally Posted by ctrlz

In 2016 I ordered a 2017 2SS with the M6. Money I saved by not going automatic went toward the 50th anniversary trim package. Given subsequent issues with the A8, I do not regret my decision.

I think you should stick with the A10 for a while. Probably a better current fit for you comfort-wise and financially. In the meantime, you can keep looking for a good deal on an M6 car or ZL1. Making the panic move now and taking the financial hit doesn't make sense to me. This does not sound like a 50-50 decision for you, more like 70-30.

One thing I miss with the M6 is just being able to floor it and letting a good automatic do the fast shifts. On the other hand, most people who compliment my car typically say two things-- "Nice car," immediately followed by, "And you got the stick shift! Awesome!"

Thanks for the advice. Honestly I think I should wait. That's why my wife told me if I going to f-up again, order the car you want or keep this lol.

Will measure the financial hit and take it from there.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Kamero6

Thanks for the response. I will find out today about the financial hit. Honestly it is the worst to have your dream car and regret 1 detail but it is what it is.
I drove more than a decade manual cars daily and its Ok, im still young.
I thought about that but all the upgrades are a couple thousand and I don't know if it is worth it. If I keep the A10 definitely.

To add to Batmobile's response:

I have the 2SS A10 myself, and that was the first thing I did. 305/30R20's on the back and 275/285/30R20's front. (will need wheel upgrades as well)

The only real difference between the 1LE and my car is MRC, and if you like the $2000 Brake upgrade and $3000 hood sticker.

M6's are for fun, A10's are FTW. But I also went to drag strip with my car so there's that as well.

P.S. no I didn't blow up my engine at the track, I blew it up on the way home from work....

[adamjwilson]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

To add to Batmobile's response:

I have the 2SS A10 myself, and that was the first thing I did. 305/30R20's on the back and 275/285/30R20's front. (will need wheel upgrades as well)

The only real difference between the 1LE and my car is MRC, and if you like the $2000 Brake upgrade and $3000 hood sticker.

M6's are for fun, A10's are FTW. But I also went to drag strip with my car so there's that as well.

P.S. no I didn't blow up my engine at the track, I blew it up on the way home from work....

Hey FlukeSS- I lost track of your thread on your car... did you ever find out what really happened? I know there was some speculation on the cause?

[Kamero6]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

The M6 in the Camaro is much more often than not chosen by manual die-hards, so if you're looking for confessions of stick shift regret here, you won't find it.

The manual will never be as fast or intelligent as the automatic, whereas the auto will never give you the same sense of engagement with the drivetrain, even with the paddles or the shift knob in "manual" mode. Think it through yourself, line up the pros and cons, then if you still want a manual transmission, make your move. It seems you aren't a true stick shift enthusiast, so my prediction is there will always be something to yearn for about the "other" choice, that's one thing you'll simply need to live with. (No, I'm not a psychologist, this is just my personal 2 cents'.)



Swiftly blipping the accelerator to the floor is as close as it gets to a physical activation button IMO. In fact, it's arguably even better, because you 1) don't have to look for it with your fingers or look away from the road, and 2) you can't press it by accident.

Actually I really wanted the manual, I was saying Manual or no car, but you know the A10 is not bad and I rushed the decision.
I had only manuals until after I turned 30yo. I don't mind autos in any of my DD cars. I though it was going to be fine with the A10 in the camaro but I guess not.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by adamjwilson

Hey FlukeSS- I lost track of your thread on your car... did you ever find out what really happened? I know there was some speculation on the cause?

Still no confirmation on rather or not it is a spun bearing or a bent rod.

I don't think its a spun bearing.

No metal shavings in the oil filter at all, no visible cylinder damage, Car had oil,

I would have to pull the oil pan to check for metal fragments but I suspect I won't find any.

Leaning towards a bent rod, but not sure if I should see physical damage in the cylinder or not, and there was no oil leak at all after it happened so don't think I threw a rod through the block either.

Long story short though regardless of what the issue is I need a new engine. In super conservative mode saving money at the moment, but it will be a long time before I can do anything.

Right now trying to find out best way to store the car for a year without it rusting away to nothing.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

To add to Batmobile's response:

I have the 2SS A10 myself, and that was the first thing I did. 305/30R20's on the back and 275/285/30R20's front. (will need wheel upgrades as well)

The only real difference between the 1LE and my car is MRC, and if you like the $2000 Brake upgrade and $3000 hood sticker.

M6's are for fun, A10's are FTW. But I also went to drag strip with my car so there's that as well.

P.S. no I didn't blow up my engine at the track, I blew it up on the way home from work....

How difficult was it to put in the eLSD? After doing that and upgrading your brakes, wheels, tires, and adding the extra cooling systems how much did you save?

[GM-ACE]

Originally Posted by Kamero6

Thats one of the reasons for the M6. If it is ok from factory, will last a long time. Clutch is not a problem, and I still think the A10 will take a crap one day.
That and AFM not activating in the manual.

I'm actually embarrassed I didn't mention the AFM deletion of the manuals. Imagine my shock when I found out the LT1 in the Corvette had AFM, my first reaction was: In a manual trans car?! Cause GM never did that before, manual trans = no lifter issue, in my dome.
On a side note, the clutch in this Vette doesn't feel as solid as the one in my 2019 SS. Same for the shifter, too much plastic

[JTS]

Originally Posted by WhiteMale

I wouldn't go back and go M6 with this car, the A10 Ive had it 10 months now, is just an amazing transmission. But, the way I like to drive and my driving style, I wish I had taken an M6.
I really only miss being able to hold that gear and the RPM's when I'm in heavy traffic and want instant thrust beyond pushing the pedal and getting the trans to drop 1-2-3 gears BEFORE I get it. I often put it in manual mode for the similarity but the paddles and/or the shifter just quick enough. It's like the paddles and shifter aren't linked to the trans, has a small delay in either when a shift is commanded.
Too the trans holds low RPMs when in drive so the moment I get that lugging sound in my axle back and it's unpleasant before it downshifts and picks up RPM.

The only thing I think is missing in the A10 is a performance shift button, on/off. I like the PSM when it activates but I'd like to more direct on/off button.

I agree the A10 is an excellent Transmission, the lag in shifting gears is slow , like the Throttle all electronic . I'm so use to Cables, from the old days , Cables are so instintanious, that's why in Drag Racing most applications still use a Cable . I'm not sure on this , but with an A10 trans tune you maybe able to get quicker shifts.

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

How difficult was it to put in the eLSD? After doing that and upgrading your brakes, wheels, tires, and adding the extra cooling systems how much did you save?

Pretty sure the 1LE doesn't have any additional cooling systems over the SS, it's the suspension/wheels/tires, eLSD that are the difference. FE4 is more than just the shocks, there's the sways, etc. The eLSD modes were super helpful last weekend at autoX on the first few laps to get it down without pushing too hard early on (before heat was there for enough grip). I do wish we could access linear throttle outside of track though.

[ZED SLED]

manual = I drive my car
auto = My car drives me
If you're going to have an auto, why not go all out and get a self driving car? I'll be there to set a traffic cone on the hood

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a4...c-cones-hoods/

[Keko]

M6 all day. Driver experience is at the top of my priority list, and the M6 in these cars is truly excellent. Best feeling trans I've ever owned, even without the rev matching as an added bonus. Why not step up to a ZL1 as well