[TheRealJA105]

I want the Recaros too, but i think that's about it at this point.

[That1guy_tim]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

I want the Recaros too, but i think that's about it at this point.

why not just buy yourself a nice sparco or OMP seat? Believe you can get a setup for same price as stock Recaros. I do understand if you don't want the airbag light and or you enjoy heated/cooled seats.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by That1guy_tim

why not just buy yourself a nice sparco or OMP seat? Believe you can get a setup for same price as stock Recaros. I do understand if you don't want the airbag light and or you enjoy heated/cooled seats.

Airbag light, cooling, and i really can't get myself to spend big money on seats. They will hold me in place better on track, but how much faster is that going to make me?

[driven2exceSS]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

They will hold me in place better on track, but how much faster is that going to make me?

You'd be REALLY surprised of how much of a benefit there is that comes from being properly planted in the car while on track. Get yourself harnessed in...

[Fraxum]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

I wish I had an ediff so I knew what you are talking about. 100% i think it would improve my laptimes.

Agreed.

But I always wished the ZL1 coupe could be had without the Ediff. It is a waste of 40 pounds for my use of a car. If I hit the track again I will still be in the beginner class. So I won't be bouncing off the curbing @ over 100 MPH. But I wanted a lower ET. I did get to 11.1 @129. 40 pounds less and less gas might have let me touch the 10s. The ZL1 should be a 10 second car right out of the box.

To me and opinions may differ, the ediff is a waste on the street. And it adds $$ and unnecessay street complexity to the ZL1. I am not knocking it. It is another example of superlative GM engineering. And a good thing to have if you are at least a semi serious tracker.

But what really made me decide to sell the ZL1 was the falling off a cliff residual value and the A10. It maybe is the best auto ever, and fun at first, but in the end not as engaging as a manual.

And weight adds a heavier feel to the car. My LT1 feels more tossable on the street than my 16 loaded 2SS did. But it is not that much lighter so maybe that is my imagination talking and would not be confirmed with emperical data.

I have to stop disagreeing with myself.

[hotlap]

The results from the two H2H with the SS and SS 1LE give some perspective.

Streets of Willow

01:20.67 - 2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE
01:22.94 - 2015 BMW M4
01:23.15 - 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS (2SS)
01:23.97 - 2018 Ford Mustang GT Performance Pack 1

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chev...let-camaro-ss/

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chev...ck-comparison/

[Bosse'sBoss]

Thanks for sharing those lap times. Great to see that the base Camaro SS easily beats the Mustang GT PP1 that has wider tires, I believe that the intention of the PP1 was to go VS the SS1LE, but FORD wasn't able to beat it so it went to cup tires with the PP2 package and missed the target again.
Two things are unbeatable on the 6th gen Camaro: the Alpha platform and the eLSD wich makes a superb handling track beast.

[Deputy Dog]

To put this in perspective...isn't it true that the 6th Gen SS out performs the 5th Gen 1LE on the Streets on Willow track?��

[That1guy_tim]

Originally Posted by hotlap

The results from the two H2H with the SS and SS 1LE give some perspective.

Streets of Willow

01:20.67 - 2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE
01:22.94 - 2015 BMW M4
01:23.15 - 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS (2SS)
01:23.97 - 2018 Ford Mustang GT Performance Pack 1

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chev...let-camaro-ss/

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chev...ck-comparison/

I think a lot of that time between the 2ss and the 1le can be made up in tires as well. obviously not all of it, but at least a second. VERY surprised that the 2ss out braked the M4's carbon brakes.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Deputy Dog

To put this in perspective...isn't it true that the 6th Gen SS out performs the 5th Gen 1LE on the Streets on Willow track?��

Yes. Below is an expert from the 2016 SS press release.

With the lighter, stiffer architecture and more powerful engines, the Gen Six Camaro SS delivers better lap times than the fifth-generation’s track-focused Camaro 1LE package.

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/...16-camaro.html

[LESS1]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Airbag light, cooling, and i really can't get myself to spend big money on seats. They will hold me in place better on track, but how much faster is that going to make me?

Go drive a well set up C5 Z06 with stock seats and report back! This was my previous car, and you were literally holding on with hands/arms as well as legs/knees for all your worth. Being able to stay in the seat and apply light grip pressure to the steering wheel is key to feeling what the car is doing, consistently hitting your marks as well as being able to unwind the wheel and apply throttle precisely. makes a difference in lap times and consistency each and every corner.

[LESS1]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

I want the Recaros too, but i think that's about it at this point.

Same here (eLSD, cooling, and seats) which is why I went with SS 1LE and not the Turbo 2.0 1LE. If only Chevy offered these options on 2.0 I'd be in that little beast. You are losing a few hundred pounds off ss 1LE, toss in a few mods and that little sucker would be a track weapon. And easier on the consumables as well.

[Deputy Dog]

Here is a 1SS at Nurbergring


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

[Deputy Dog]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Yes. Below is an expert from the 2016 SS press release.
Attachment 1024439

Nuff said.🤩