Clean air pcv line delete? - Page 3

alice · 08-02-2017, 10:30 AM

I have tried a number of highend catch cans on many projects. I own a 2010 Twin Turbo Camaro and the best catch can I have found is the Elite E2X ultra. I check the valves at regular intervals and virtually, no appreciable valve build up. The only way you can determine if any catch can is working properly is to visually look at the valves. I am anal about this subject and how it relates to engine performance and I stand by the Elite catch can. Everyone has an opinion but the proof of the pudding is a visual inspection of the valves. That is the ONLY way you can prove one catch can performance over another. For me and my customers, it's Elite.

Elite Engineering · 08-02-2017, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by alice

I have tried a number of highend catch cans on many projects. I own a 2010 Twin Turbo Camaro and the best catch can I have found is the Elite E2X ultra. I check the valves at regular intervals and virtually, no appreciable valve build up. The only way you can determine if any catch can is working properly is to visually look at the valves. I am anal about this subject and how it relates to engine performance and I stand by the Elite catch can. Everyone has an opinion but the proof of the pudding is a visual inspection of the valves. That is the ONLY way you can prove one catch can performance over another. For me and my customers, it's Elite.

Thank YOU, very well said!

Evil-Bee-NH · 08-02-2017, 11:07 AM

Like that wasn't an imported testimonial. Not sure why EE is going nuts now trying to defend it's product it's not your credibility just your LTG application that we have an issue with. Where Mishimoto fails you succeeded and where you failed and called it a day they succeeded by actually pulling things apart. Difference in the end products are obvious stated by Jason@JacFab. It is clear you did not have a 2.0T Camaro for testing and just went with the old turbo tried and true method except these new engines have more to them then the 2010 to 2015 builds.

Now only if you guys did a collaboration product that'd be something fun to see.

Corner carver · 08-02-2017, 12:03 PM

I will be pulling apart my intake, lines, etc this spring to do a direct comparison for the stock 'build up' after 7000km and what the internals look like after 7000km with Mishi's setup...we shall see

...for anyone curious I documented what I found in the OEM system in the Mishi catch can install thread and my build thread.

Jason@JacFab · 08-02-2017, 03:05 PM

I will do "the challenge"...

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Michigan1LTRS · 08-02-2017, 03:14 PM

Start The Machine · 08-02-2017, 05:31 PM

Jason, please figure this out and make us something that works.

Elite Engineering · 08-03-2017, 10:28 AM

All Elite E2 and E2-X series Catch Cans come standard with true -6 or -8 AN fittings.

The main separation unit also does not restrict flow at the industry CFM flow rate while stopping 95% plus of the oil and other compounds you don;t want to reach the combustion chamber. You only want air/fuel in the combustion chamber period. Will be nice to see Jason conduct the test and post the results here.

Elite Engineering · 08-03-2017, 10:31 AM

Yes, the new LT V8 based engines in the Camaro are GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection) and do come with a very effective cleanside separation system, but nothing for the foul/dirty side where most ingestion enters from.

As the older LS engines could tolerate some ingestion, the 11.5:1 CR LT engines cannot, so that is where you need to add a Catch Can system.

Our E2-X dual valve system can be viewed in the thread on installation Cunningham has made here to understand it. And, there is not a more effective separation system than this design on the market.

Installation is pretty straight forward and as it adds full time evacuation it will constantly pull the damaging compounds from the crankcase keeping engine oil clean longer as well as prevent up to 85% of intake valve coking and greatly reduce detonation caused KR.

To keep this thread from getting too out of hand, you can always email us directly for more answers and information at:

Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com

Sales@EliteEngineeringUSA.com

08-02-2017, 11:07 AM	#31
Evil-Bee-NH 603 Camaros Drives: 2017 NGM I4 1LT Coupe Join Date: May 2012 Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 6,779 View My Garage	Like that wasn't an imported testimonial. Not sure why EE is going nuts now trying to defend it's product it's not your credibility just your LTG application that we have an issue with. Where Mishimoto fails you succeeded and where you failed and called it a day they succeeded by actually pulling things apart. Difference in the end products are obvious stated by Jason@JacFab. It is clear you did not have a 2.0T Camaro for testing and just went with the old turbo tried and true method except these new engines have more to them then the 2010 to 2015 builds. Now only if you guys did a collaboration product that'd be something fun to see. __________________ MY 2017 I4 CAMARO BUILD JOURNAL \| YOUTUBE \| INSTAGRAM \| 316RWHP - 385 RWTQ HPTUNERS DYNO TUNE \| 12.693s @ 105MPH 1/4 Mile

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Corner carver Drives: 2017 Camaro 2.0T RS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Ontario Posts: 1,827	I will be pulling apart my intake, lines, etc this spring to do a direct comparison for the stock 'build up' after 7000km and what the internals look like after 7000km with Mishi's setup...we shall see ...for anyone curious I documented what I found in the OEM system in the Mishi catch can install thread and my build thread. __________________ As Delivered: 2017 Mosaic Black 1LT RS 2.0T \| M6 \| HD brake and cooling \| Bose & 8"screen \| Front lip extension \| Blade spolier \| Black bowties \| Painted splash guards Installed Mods: 25% Window tint \| Headlight, side marker and third brake light Phastek tint kit \| GM black taillights with Gen5diy LED harness and bulbs \| LED license plate bulbs \| Gorilla lug nuts, black \| GM 'performance' center caps \| RS and sheild badges removed

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08-02-2017, 10:30 AM	#29
alice Drives: 2010 camaro limited edition turbo Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: saint petersburg, florida Posts: 499 View My Garage	I have tried a number of highend catch cans on many projects. I own a 2010 Twin Turbo Camaro and the best catch can I have found is the Elite E2X ultra. I check the valves at regular intervals and virtually, no appreciable valve build up. The only way you can determine if any catch can is working properly is to visually look at the valves. I am anal about this subject and how it relates to engine performance and I stand by the Elite catch can. Everyone has an opinion but the proof of the pudding is a visual inspection of the valves. That is the ONLY way you can prove one catch can performance over another. For me and my customers, it's Elite.

08-02-2017, 03:05 PM	#33
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,685 View My Garage	I will do "the challenge"... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-03-2017, 10:28 AM	#36
Elite Engineering Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 1,383	All Elite E2 and E2-X series Catch Cans come standard with true -6 or -8 AN fittings. The main separation unit also does not restrict flow at the industry CFM flow rate while stopping 95% plus of the oil and other compounds you don;t want to reach the combustion chamber. You only want air/fuel in the combustion chamber period. Will be nice to see Jason conduct the test and post the results here.

08-03-2017, 10:31 AM	#37
Elite Engineering Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 1,383	Yes, the new LT V8 based engines in the Camaro are GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection) and do come with a very effective cleanside separation system, but nothing for the foul/dirty side where most ingestion enters from. As the older LS engines could tolerate some ingestion, the 11.5:1 CR LT engines cannot, so that is where you need to add a Catch Can system. Our E2-X dual valve system can be viewed in the thread on installation Cunningham has made here to understand it. And, there is not a more effective separation system than this design on the market. Installation is pretty straight forward and as it adds full time evacuation it will constantly pull the damaging compounds from the crankcase keeping engine oil clean longer as well as prevent up to 85% of intake valve coking and greatly reduce detonation caused KR. To keep this thread from getting too out of hand, you can always email us directly for more answers and information at: Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com Sales@EliteEngineeringUSA.com

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