[1295/SS]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

i sold the mustang and sold some stocks and shares.
we paid off out house the 20th of july 2017 at 3.50pm..this i swear on my 2 sons lives. we built the house 2006 moved in march 27th 2007..200k paid off in 10 years 4 months. house is worth 500k now lol and all ours
and now i can buy a lambo within 5 years if a wanted..my next car will be a gen6 camaro 2ss once i have recouped some cash..50k will take me about 18 months to save..
me and my wife have good incomes and almost zero outlay now.
I DO NOT LOAN money for cars...everything i buy is with cash..soon as i get a gen6 ofc i will let ya all know. april 2019 i rekon..

this is a camaro forum right? i love camaros. love everything about them..so i think i can express my hatred for ford ok here..it's that clown thepill that needs shooting down NOT ME

Anyone who would swear on their son's lives while trying to impress strangers on a forum is a complete POS. Congrats.

[Meat Dont Sleep]

Originally Posted by newmoon

There was nothing wrong with my 5th Gen Camaro other than beginning in 2011 the competition was faster. Anyone who spent anytime at the local strip would know this. Handling wasn't a priority for me and still isn't but I will say that the GT felt like it could be thrown into a corner much harder than the SS.

Originally Posted by newmoon
Sorry but the gap was huge. Bolt on 5.0s were faster than cammed LS3s stock forget it not even close. The 5th Gens were dogs. I remember after I bought the car and was on my way home from the dealership I stomped the gas and said where the hell is the claimed hp. My 2012 5.0 and 392 made the LS3 feel like a petrified turd. Good thing that was remedied in 2016.

You do know there is a fast list over on camaro5 that's says you're wrong. I don't live at the track but I go every once in a while with some guys who do. I run 12.2's pretty consistently with a vararam, long tubes, high flow cats and a tune on a square 275 street tire setup. I can dip just below 12 in the winter. None of the guys I run with seem surprised by those times.
As far as handling goes, my square tire setup coupled with adjustable sways makes it pretty hard to upset the handling of this car. When I run a track day its in Sebring which has some "worn" concrete. So you didnt see many guys with live axles on that track no matter how hard you think you can throw it into a corner (or a crowd of people, see random mustangs crashing into people while trying to drive in a straight line videos.) The '11 gt was a nimble car for sure but it was only 1 second quicker in it's lightening lap than the 2010 ss. That's pretty close at VIR. The '13 1LE was nearly 4 seconds faster than the '11 gt with no added power or weight reduction.
So to call the 5th gen crap is a stretch. Hell it was only 10 years ago your choice was a 4.6 liter gt, that was crap. And I'd say its not much of a stretch to say if Chevy and Dodge didn't resurrect the Camaro and Challenger a 4.6 liter gt would still be the offering from Ford.

[Meat Dont Sleep]

And am i the only one who thinks the 2018 looks like the MCP from Tron?

[Mr. Meh]

Originally Posted by Meat Dont Sleep

And am i the only one who thinks the 2018 looks like the MCP from Tron?

If you don't stop that, I'm going to have to put you on the game grid.

[pdiddy972]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

speed is meanigless if the car handles like a pos..

who in their right minds judges a car purely on it's zero to 60...

True that. 0-60 is over-optimized by manufacturers and can't be relied on as a true measure of much (other than 0-60). Take Porsches for example; 0-60 with their launch control is great but try 5-60 and they lose 1-2 full seconds due to their wimpy torque at low RPMs. Also take a car like a Tesla - great 0-60 but then it's falling behind everything above that speed. Plus it's a pig in handling and braking, weighing way north of 4,000 pounds.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Holy balls.. 53xxx for a GT?

No thanks. I paid 57 for my car and that's ridiculous.

Agreed. That is way too much. Unless the cars performance just blows us away I dont think it is worth it

[Meat Dont Sleep]

Originally Posted by Mr. Meh

If you don't stop that, I'm going to have to put you on the game grid.

DEREZZED AGAIN!!

[JaxChris]

2018 Mustang GT is playing catch up to the 2016 Camaro SS, congrats to the Mustang crowd. But it is a shame that it got a nose job and gained another 10-15 lbs. At least now they can say they have 5 more hp and only 35 less ft/lbs. Almost everything else they successfully cloned from the Camaro 2SS.

The 10-speed on the GT will help make up for that extra 100lbs of curb weight the GT will still be lugging vs the SS. I think the Ford dialed in the 2018 GT to put down the same paper performance stats as the 16/17 SS. Good for them.

If Team Camaro really wants to strike back with the 2019 model and get some fresh rebuys going, then I offer a few obvious suggestions:
* 10-speed available on all V8 models
* 1LE available on automatic V8 models
* Increase power and torque by 5%
* Include flex fuel and provide maps that take advantage of it in Sport & Track modes (another 25/25 bump to 500hp/500tq advertised?)
* Copy Ford and offer NPP activation programming, tired of switching to Stealth via Snow/Ice when I get in the neighborhood -- having a speedo trigger or navigation geofence option would be great
* Find some more storage spaces inside the cabin
* Wireless charger that supports modern phones or ditch it for a longer/deeper center console bin
* Don't go crazy with the nose job and make sure actual Camaro owners that aren't second rate yes men are in your focus group panel
* Advertise

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by JaxChris

* Copy Ford and offer NPP activation programming, tired of switching to Stealth via Snow/Ice when I get in the neighborhood -- having a speedo trigger or navigation geofence option would be great

Exactly what does Ford do differently for it? As far as I know it will be like the GT350s setup which the only thing extra they get a dedicated switch for it. That does the same as my M2W, which if you read many of the threads here...no one really cares about. It would be nice to have a silent start option without having to put the car in Service mode first to close the valves.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

Agreed. That is way too much. Unless the cars performance just blows us away I dont think it is worth it

They are dumping the 2017 GT's....look at these. It is incredible how cheap they are ..


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...List=MUST%7CGT

[68fbjjz109]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Exactly what does Ford do differently for it? As far as I know it will be like the GT350s setup which the only thing extra they get a dedicated switch for it. That does the same as my M2W, which if you read many of the threads here...no one really cares about. It would be nice to have a silent start option without having to put the car in Service mode first to close the valves.

[Childs Play]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

They are dumping the 2017 GT's....look at these. It is incredible how cheap they are ..


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...List=MUST%7CGT

Definitely the time to buy if you're wanting a Mustang but don't really care for the refresh.
I'm not a big Mustang fan but I don't hate them either.
There's some seriously good deals out there right now.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by 68fbjjz109

Ah ok that is cool. Course as quiet as the GTs with stock exhaust are now...I wonder how loud it actually will be.

[68fbjjz109]

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

It'll be interesting to see what PP2 brings to the table. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait a minute to find out.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/2017/...mance-package/

I am pretty sure I have seen one drive around my house, though ironically I typically only see ZL1/1LE M plates around me.

Lower from what I have seen and wider wheels. From what we know currently.

Big change is wheel width 9.5" front, 10" Rear which is listed speculation still exists on everything else.

TopNotch, a pretty reliable source mentioned Sport Cup 2 Tires. That's a pretty big departure from under tired mustangs.

This may explain the late availability. This plus magneride and different spring rates would definitely put it more inline with the 1LE. This would be exciting to see, as there is nothing within the 1LE price class that has parity with it.