[drew peacock]

terrible wafer thin crap faux leather seats aswell..camaro has much better quality seats.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

First off, you are forgetting the destination on the Mustang. GT Premium is 40k and 1ss is 38.. That's a 2k difference. 2SS is 43k, which makes it 3k more than the Mustang.

A GT without PP is EXTREMELY soft. It'll have more features than the 1SS, but will be missing the performance. These cars are simply packaged differently.

If you just want a cruiser and a nice interior, the GT Premium is cheaper than 2SS.. If you want nice interior/features in the Mustang AND performance, then you need to cough up 4k for GT Premium PP, which makes it 1k more expensive than the Camaro 2SS all while having less features than Camaro.

Correct GT premium 39,995 with destination so 40K.

Now I am not sure how much truth there is to this, what I read on M6G.

Supposedly the 18 GT will now have the the current PP suspension components as the standard suspension so if that is true, it wouldn't be as soft as the current S550 cars with out the PP.

[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Correct GT premium 39,995 with destination so 40K.

Now I am not sure how much truth there is to this, what I read on M6G.

Supposedly the 18 GT will now have the the current PP suspension components as the standard suspension so if that is true, it wouldn't be as soft as the current S550 cars with out the PP.

I believe all trims have been stiffened. However, GT will still not be the equivalent of the 15-17 PP. Excerpt from MT article below.

"Additionally, all refreshed Mustangs get new shock absorbers, a new cross-axis joint in the rear suspension and improved stabilizer bars for better ride and handling."

[shaffe]

Thanks for the info

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

First off, you are forgetting the destination on the Mustang. GT Premium is 40k and 1ss is 38.. That's a 2k difference. 2SS is 43k, which makes it 3k more than the Mustang.

A GT without PP is EXTREMELY soft. It'll have more features than the 1SS, but will be missing the performance. These cars are simply packaged differently.

If you just want a cruiser and a nice interior, the GT Premium is cheaper than 2SS.. If you want nice interior/features in the Mustang AND performance, then you need to cough up 4k for GT Premium PP, which makes it 1k more expensive than the Camaro 2SS all while having less features than Camaro.

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I would not be interested in a base model for either car, did it once and won't again. It is worth a few extra dollars a month in payment to have a car which you enjoy driving in traffic as much as you enjoy winding it out.

The automatic GT with PP, Mag, and Exhaust which I would be interested in would be 48k, the automatic Camaro with Mag and Exhaust I would be interested in would be 47.5k. Hardly worth bickering about the price agree? The best bang for the buck would be a Scatpack 392 Charger with upgraded wheel, leather, and tech packages for 42.5k

[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by newmoon

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I would not be interested in a base model for either car, did it once and won't again. It is worth a few extra dollars a month in payment to have a car which you enjoy driving in traffic as much as you enjoy winding it out.

The automatic GT with PP, Mag, and Exhaust which I would be interested in would be 48k, the automatic Camaro with Mag and Exhaust I would be interested in would be 47.5k. Hardly worth bickering about the price agree?

I agree, just pointing out the inaccuracies. Although I'm sure the bickering will continue.. Still get more features from Camaro at a lower cost though.

I'm really digging the Orange Fury with PP.

[Mountain]

Go equip a 2018 Mustang GT base to what a Camaro SS (1SS) is.

I seem to remember some Mustang peeps talking about the price of the 6G Camaro SS.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by newmoon

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I would not be interested in a base model for either car, did it once and won't again. It is worth a few extra dollars a month in payment to have a car which you enjoy driving in traffic as much as you enjoy winding it out.

The automatic GT with PP, Mag, and Exhaust which I would be interested in would be 48k, the automatic Camaro with Mag and Exhaust I would be interested in would be 47.5k. Hardly worth bickering about the price agree? The best bang for the buck would be a Scatpack 392 Charger with upgraded wheel, leather, and tech packages for 42.5k

Does the SP come with mag ride and exhaust for 42.5?

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Does the SP come with mag ride and exhaust for 42.5?

Active exhaust yes, it comes standard on the 392 cars course it's the old vacuum system like the 5th gen NPP . No MRC in FCA's parts bin yet.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by MrNoMercy5000

Also, this may be subjective but having owned both I will say the interior on the GT Premium is nowhere near as nice as the 2SS.

Originally Posted by drew peacock

terrible wafer thin crap faux leather seats aswell..camaro has much better quality seats.

Agreed. My seats in my 10 Camaro SS were much more durable and felt more comfortable than in my S550 GT. The GT seats felt like they'd be a mess after about 40,000 miles.

[Zodiac]

Damn 8 pages since my last comment. Not even gonna bother reading responses to catch up. That's what I get for working.

I'm sure it was "not stock", "mustang owners lie", "impossible", etc.

I know on my track apps I was able to do 12.6 bone stock, never ran my 15 at the strip and accuracy on any of the track apps on either car is up in the air.

[Zodiac]

Originally Posted by Casalino

Who cares. We picked the camaro because we like it better. Let the mustang people be mustang people. What are we debating about? 5 horsepower, xxlbs of torque. tenths of a second. blah blah blah blah blah. You picked the camaro because maybe you feel that it performs better, looks better, better platform...whatever it might be. This is never ending.

You see a mustang guy and two things happen. Either you appreciate each other that you like muscle cars, or the other guy must suck cause he doesn't have what you have. Just have fun driving your car and enjoying it and don't worry about mustangs

Holy shit a sensible comment?

Dude am I on the wrong site?

You my friend, win this thread.

I'm on so many forums, I generally just like cars and most of the communities. I bullshit with everyone at cars and coffee, dragstrip, etc and have no brand loyalties.

The best community I have been a part of was the G8.

Some people take this stuff way too serious.

[show7ime]

Originally Posted by Zodiac

Holy shit a sensible comment?

Dude am I on the wrong site?

You my friend, win this thread.

I'm on so many forums, I generally just like cars and most of the communities. I bullshit with everyone at cars and coffee, dragstrip, etc and have no brand loyalties.

The best community I have been a part of was the G8.

Some people take this stuff way too serious.

I never believe in blind brand loyalty. I second this. Regardless, competition is good for everyone. The consumers win. I can understand some of the animosity with others. Deep down inside nobody wants their car that they spent a considerable amount of change on to be "outdated." But, that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Always going to be something better in about two years after a new purchase. Just be happy and content and enjoy what you have. I feel as if some individuals only identity are their cars and feel that if they hate on other manufactures they'll receive a free decal to put on their car that provides 5 extra hp from GM.

[UK Basketball Rocks]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

problem is i get to drive different cars at work..my 2 bosses have bmw's and audi's
my van is a ford transit connect..my dd is a hyundai i30 diesel.
i suppose if you only drive a mustang your kinda immune to how bad it is..
these bozos need to go drive some other cars..
my hyundai i can cruize at 100mph and drink coffee and hold the steering wheel with one finger
in the s550 u have to hold on for life ..tramlining, hood fluuter, rear end floating,
all make a bad bad experience

You really have nothing to say on this site except for bad mouthing Mustangs so I guess youre right, Ford has been F***ing up the Mustang since 1964.5.