[Elite Engineering]

Hey all.


We guarantee our Catch Cans will trap close to twice the amount as any other Catch Can maker in the industry. An easy back to back testing can be done by anyone wanting to prove this themselves. To date, we have performed this testing on several manufacturers, and one is MM.


So, here is how it is performed to be fair to both:


Starting with both cans cleaned of all oil residue, install the MM can first in series, and the E2-X after it. That is from the outlet of the MM connect to the inlet of the E2-X. Drive 1000-2000 miles as you normally would. Empty both and document the amount caught. Similar to this done with the JLT can:


JLT left, E2-X right.



These tests are all over the internet.


Then clean both of all residue and reverse the order. Drive the SAME miles, and the same driving style to be fair and equal. Drain and document and see just how large of a disparity in effectiveness. Your goal should be to stop all the oil and other nasty combustion by-products from ingestion. Do this and there is no "he said, she said" Just undeniable proof.


Now look at how our E2 and E2-X system works. It pulls full time suction on the crankcase VS allowing pressure to build and vent to the atmosphere. Ours also meet all emissions requirements. We retain a closed compliant system, but have a fail safe so pressure can never build and cause a seal issue. Ours is a complete system with billet cleanside separator that will allow pressure relief in the event you damage a piston.


No matter how you look at it, there is no feature our E2-X system does not exceed over other designs currently on the market. But don't take our word for it, do the test yourself and see as this video done with Moroso's best highest priced can. (skip to the 17 minute mark to see the final results as the video is long, but it is good to watch the entire video):






We have this challenge open still as we have for years. No other design has come close.


And as always, email our Engineering team direct at: Tech@EliteEngineeringUSA.com and sales@EliteEngineeringUSA.com


We offer several designs for different applications as there is no "one size fits all". Daily drivers to wild boosted builds, we have your solution.

[RobbyRocketz]

X2 here, best quality period.

[Elite Engineering]

Originally Posted by RobbyRocketz

X2 here, best quality period.

[angryBits]

You guys don't make the decision easy.

I appreciate the forum member opinions and will watch the videos provided by Elite.

The most valuable consideration for me is "how much oil is being caught".
I don't plan to do any tests myself, I'm not that committed -- but if I can feel confident that Elite is catching considerably more then of course I would choose Elite.

Thanks

[Elite Engineering]

Originally Posted by angryBits

You guys don't make the decision easy.

I appreciate the forum member opinions and will watch the videos provided by Elite.

The most valuable consideration for me is "how much oil is being caught".
I don't plan to do any tests myself, I'm not that committed -- but if I can feel confident that Elite is catching considerably more then of course I would choose Elite.

Thanks

The proof is in the bottom of the Catch Can

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by Alain

I have the Elite catch can on my car. Just installed it a couple of weeks ago. I've only put about 200 miles on the car since the install so i'm not sure that I will see much oil when I drain it this week during my oil change.

I don't think you should worry about the catch can having a window to be able to see the amount of oil in it. Just open the drain valve and drain whatever is in it.

as far as the install of the Elite unit, It's not hard at all man. you can always drill the hole on the intake elbow in an area where it wont be visible to the naked eye (underneath where it wont be seen when the hood is opened).

I did the install myself in my driveway, took me 2 days because I took my time and I had to wait for new supercharger cover and supercharger to engine bolts. It's not hard at all, routing the hoses is really easy.

I would recommend the Elite.

Thanks Alain, I appreciate the input.

I'm a DIY'er but I admit I'm a bit intimidated about disconnecting and raising the supercharger. I am considering having a shop do it just for peace of mind.

Did you make any attempts to conceal yours? Or do you remove it when taking it into service?

I don't plan to remove mine so I'd like to make it as not-obvious as possible.

Thanks

[Alain]

Originally Posted by angryBits

Thanks Alain, I appreciate the input.

I'm a DIY'er but I admit I'm a bit intimidated about disconnecting and raising the supercharger. I am considering having a shop do it just for peace of mind.

Did you make any attempts to conceal yours? Or do you remove it when taking it into service?

I don't plan to remove mine so I'd like to make it as not-obvious as possible.

Thanks

I know exactly how you are feeling, I was intimidated about the install as well. DON'T take it to a shop, you can do the install yourself if you can turn a wrench !!!!!! You're only removing a couple of vacuum lines to raise the supercharger, just take photos or videos on your phone of how the vacuum lines connect.

Don't over think the install, It's as easy as loosening a few bolts.

Raising the supercharger sounds like heart surgery but it's not. Just get yourself a piece of wood, and cut it into about a 5 by 6 inch piece, use that to support the supercharger while you install the diverter valve. Wood is soft and it wont damage anything. I wedged the wood right under the pulley (in front of the supercharger).

Just make sure whether you do the install or a shop does it, DON"T RE-USE the supercharger bolts or you run the risk of braking the bolts while torqueing them. Get the bolt kit from GM (comes with a new supercharger lid gasket) in case you want to change the old gasket.

Keep in mind that you'll be forced to re-use the supercharger bolt located on the top left passenger side of the motor, just go easy when you tighten it.

I did not make an effort to conceal my can. It's mounted to the thermostat (in front of the engine bay). Regardless of where you mount this thing you will not be able to conceal it very well.

I change my own oil and do my own work as long as my skill level allows me to do the work so I'm not worried about the dealership seeing it. If I get some sort of issue that will involve a warranty claim, I'll take the time to take the can off before I bring the car to the dealership.

Un-installing it won't be a huge pain in the ass, especially if you do the install yourself. You'll be really familiar with the process.

You sort of have to get past the voiding your warranty issue if you're going to install this thing. otherwise you'll be a nervous mess worrying about the warranty.

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by Elite Engineering

Hey all.

I just watched this video. Pretty good for a backyard test.
The variable that caught my eye is "time of year & humidity" potentially contributing to the difference in amount of fluid caught in both tests.

However, the more important metric is ratio of fluid caught. It seems clear that the Elite is letting less get past. Thats great.

Quick question in regards to cleaning.

I noticed in this video, the Moroso was easy to disassemble for complete cleaning. I did not see much disassembly with the RX (is RX the same as Elite?). Can the RX/Elite can bet completely disassembled to clean out the sludge or do you recommend spraying carb-cleaner get the sludge out?

Thanks

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by Alain

I know exactly how you are feeling, I was intimidated about the install as well. DON'T take it to a shop, you can do the install yourself if you can turn a wrench !!!!!! You're only removing a couple of vacuum lines to raise the supercharger, just take photos or videos on your phone of how the vacuum lines connect.

Don't over think the install, It's as easy as loosening a few bolts.

Raising the supercharger sounds like heart surgery but it's not. Just get yourself a piece of wood, and cut it into about a 5 by 6 inch piece, use that to support the supercharger while you install the diverter valve. Wood is soft and it wont damage anything. I wedged the wood right under the pulley (in front of the supercharger).

Just make sure whether you do the install or a shop does it, DON"T RE-USE the supercharger bolts or you run the risk of braking the bolts while torqueing them. Get the bolt kit from GM (comes with a new supercharger lid gasket) in case you want to change the old gasket.

Keep in mind that you'll be forced to re-use the supercharger bolt located on the top left passenger side of the motor, just go easy when you tighten it.

I did not make an effort to conceal my can. It's mounted to the thermostat (in front of the engine bay). Regardless of where you mount this thing you will not be able to conceal it very well.

I change my own oil and do my own work as long as my skill level allows me to do the work so I'm not worried about the dealership seeing it. If I get some sort of issue that will involve a warranty claim, I'll take the time to take the can off before I bring the car to the dealership.

Un-installing it won't be a huge pain in the ass, especially if you do the install yourself. You'll be really familiar with the process.

You sort of have to get past the voiding your warranty issue if you're going to install this thing. otherwise you'll be a nervous mess worrying about the warranty.

Agreed on all counts. It probably is best for me to do it myself. I have a slight distrust for most shops. At least if I do it I know I was careful.

THANK YOU for mentioning the bolts. I did not know this and the two videos I watched on Youtube didn't mention this so I'm very glad you did.

I stopped changing my own oil about the time it became difficult to dispose of it. My dad always poured out in the back yard... I just looked online and there is a disposal facility not far away, maybe I'll take it up again.

In regards to the warranty... This is a tough one for me because I had an engine failure under warranty and it was replaced by GM. Probably 1 in thousands, but still a sensitive area for me.

[Alain]

Originally Posted by angryBits

Agreed on all counts. It probably is best for me to do it myself. I have a slight distrust for most shops. At least if I do it I know I was careful.

THANK YOU for mentioning the bolts. I did not know this and the two videos I watched on Youtube didn't mention this so I'm very glad you did.

I stopped changing my own oil about the time it became difficult to dispose of it. My dad always poured out in the back yard... I just looked online and there is a disposal facility not far away, maybe I'll take it up again.

In regards to the warranty... This is a tough one for me because I had an engine failure under warranty and it was replaced by GM. Probably 1 in thousands, but still a sensitive area for me.

The second reason I do my own service is because I don't trust dealerships to do things correctly AS WELL as being careful with my car.

I still have the bag in which the bolts came in from GM, let me know when you're going to do it and i'll send you the part number so you can order them ahead of time and not have to spend a day waiting in the middle of your install like I did haha. Order them from GMparts.com, not from your dealership, you'll save yourself some dough.

I just take my used oil to one of the local gas stations, they have a tank where you can dispose your used oil. Most parts stores like o'reily's, advanced auto parts and pep boys will take your used oil. I'm glad you found a place near you.

The loss of warranty concern is a valid one, but the catch can is easily reversible man. If you have some crazy engine issue (or any other issue) just tow the car back to your house FIRST. Take off the can and then tow it to the dealership.

I know you'll be paying for an extra trip on a tow truck but it's worth it in the end if it saves you the warranty.

Trust me, the catch can is easy to take off, not much harder than installing a cold air intake.

[angryBits]

Originally Posted by Alain

The second reason I do my own service is because I don't trust dealerships to do things correctly AS WELL as being careful with my car.

I still have the bag in which the bolts came in from GM, let me know when you're going to do it and i'll send you the part number so you can order them ahead of time and not have to spend a day waiting in the middle of your install like I did haha. Order them from GMparts.com, not from your dealership, you'll save yourself some dough.

I just take my used oil to one of the local gas stations, they have a tank where you can dispose your used oil. Most parts stores like o'reily's, advanced auto parts and pep boys will take your used oil. I'm glad you found a place near you.

The loss of warranty concern is a valid one, but the catch can is easily reversible man. If you have some crazy engine issue (or any other issue) just tow the car back to your house FIRST. Take off the can and then tow it to the dealership.

I know you'll be paying for an extra trip on a tow truck but it's worth it in the end if it saves you the warranty.

Trust me, the catch can is easy to take off, not much harder than installing a cold air intake.

You convinced me, I'll do it myself

If you have the part number handy, I'd appreciate it.

[angryBits]

This youtube video of someone installing a Elite E2-X on their ZL1 had to modify the nipple that is included with the replacement PCV valve.

Did anyone else run into this?

https://youtu.be/aLn_hy5pxH4?t=353

[Elite Engineering]

Hey Bits,


Alain is correct. Good guide for you.


ALL Elite cans come apart for disassembly. The E2-X series is the same design as the can in that video. If you start at the 17 minute mark you can see the guy take it apart as well to show.


Yes, we stand by our claim that there is no more effective design on the market period, and that was done by a tech promoting Moroso, until he did the test that is. That is Moroso's best most expensive and we trap app. 3 times as much.


And ALWAYS dispose of what is caught properly in any approved oil recycling location.

[Alain]

Originally Posted by angryBits

You convinced me, I'll do it myself

If you have the part number handy, I'd appreciate it.

Sooty it took me so long. Haven’t been coming on here as often. I’m training for a marathon and it’s taking a lot of my attention and energy.

Part number is. 12679527 - Gasket kit. Cost $89.74 on gmparts.com. It comes with a new supercharger lid gasket if you want to replace yours when you take your lid off (but you don’t need to).

The supercharger lid bolts don’t need to be replaced. Just be careful and make sure you’re paying attention when you’re torquing them. I bought those from a different website, I’m gonna have to look around for the address.