New ZL1 hits the ground running DFW area makes 647 RWHP 2 MODS - Page 2

jvandy50 · 05-13-2019, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sr71bb

What is your point exactly???

he's giving you props lol.

we are just curious how you didn't run out of fuel, as this is most certainly some nice gains man!

I'd much rather run e85 than install headers, pulley, etc. And i want to tune so i can get rid of that annoying dead spot/bog.

EDFHOBBIES · 05-13-2019, 11:30 AM

Just show people another route as you did.. if ya need it spelled out 200 miles on e85 vs 360 on 93 atleast that's what the computer reads after a fill up. The pulley route you will get a better sounding exhaust doing the headers.

You can also get the same power doing a 103mm TB and very good blower porting and headers and not even mess with pulley swaps.

At your power level I dont think the price of fuel justifies the gains so there!

For the money you spent.. that's good power! Great Job!

EDFHOBBIES · 05-13-2019, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jvandy50

he's giving you props lol.

we are just curious how you didn't run out of fuel, as this is most certainly some nice gains man!

I'd much rather run e85 than install headers, pulley, etc. And i want to tune so i can get rid of that annoying dead spot/bog.

If you do not do any other mods it should squeak by on e85.. once you do a pulley swap or headers.. now you mixing 93 and e85 and will be in the e60 range.

If you do the LPE 1500.00 pump and aux DSX you will probably squeak out a pulley swap or headers atleast that's what forum member posted.

sr71bb · 05-13-2019, 01:39 PM

At the 647 RWHP level, the car is still operating on the STOCK fuel system. I was told however that is about MAXED out using the stock injectors and fuel pumps when using E85. Any other increase in power would necessitate an upgrade in the fuel system. Fuel system upgrades would probably go the route of the DSX system. I had a TRIPLE FORE system on my 2010 SS LS3 Camaro that made about 1000 RWHP with an F1R. That car however was living on the edge with the stock bottom end and eventually broke the crank through one of the journals. I used that particular car as a daily driver for about 12 months.

Next logical mod , fuel upgrades notwithstanding would be a ported snout and blower (30 HP increase) and pulley upgrades for more boost. Would need the cam upgrade as well to get the bigger fuel lobe as well.

Mcmillion · 05-13-2019, 03:05 PM

Nice gains. I really want to get mine on flex fuel, did you tune the TCM also?

sr71bb · 05-13-2019, 03:17 PM

YES it was tweaked as well (SEE below post I found out afterwards that the TCM was not tuned) . Basically the car makes the same RWHP as a stock ZR1 (untuned of course). There is roughly a 300 pound weight difference in the corvettes favor.

A stock hellcat and this ZL1 would be a good race in a straight line but this car can actually go around a corner as well.

JD2018_ZL1 · 05-13-2019, 03:28 PM

How was your experience with AMP? I never heard of them? Im not really planning to mod my car but never know..

sr71bb · 05-13-2019, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JD2018_ZL1

How was your experience with AMP? I never heard of them? Im not really planning to mod my car but never know..

Well SAM and Bryan at AMP are highly regarded. www.advancedmodernperformance.com

sr71bb · 05-13-2019, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mcmillion

Nice gains. I really want to get mine on flex fuel, did you tune the TCM also?

I stand corrected on this, the TCM was left stock and NOT TUNED. My bad. SAM also indicated to me that this car was NOT maxed out on its fuel system yet. I guess I will leave that to the experts that work on these things on a DAILY basis.

jvandy50 · 05-13-2019, 09:59 PM

Thank you for double checking on that for us. You may have talked me into spending some money

sr71bb · 05-14-2019, 08:50 AM

No problem. I was reminded that about 90% of the things posted on the internet are wrong even from people that had the best of intentions (lol).

Bryan at AMP mentioned to me that from driving impressions standpoint that he felt like the Zl1 1LE has slightly more body roll than the ZR1 (they have both) He was able to pull a 1.2 G on the Zl1 . He also felt like the ZL1 takes a little bit less effort to drive especially for a non-expert driver. Will know more as we autocross and do some road courses with the Zl1. Just as a precaution SAM confirmed that tires on the Zl1 are not particularly happy in wet conditions which I think most of us were aware of anyway.

JD2018_ZL1 · 06-13-2019, 06:45 PM

Would you mind giving an update on how you’re feeling about your mods and the shops job of the tune? I’m in Dallas and am curious how it’s been this far

Thanks

sr71bb · 06-13-2019, 07:16 PM

Very happy with the car. It is extremely responsive. I got 16 mpg with it on a trip and I was absolutely hauling ass with it so that’s way more than I expected.

GT-ER · 06-13-2019, 07:59 PM

What Dyno did you go to? I'm in the DFW area.

05-13-2019, 11:30 AM	#16
EDFHOBBIES Dyno Show Queen LOL Drives: 16 SS & 17 ZL1 Both Yellow Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 4,354 View My Garage	Just show people another route as you did.. if ya need it spelled out 200 miles on e85 vs 360 on 93 atleast that's what the computer reads after a fill up. The pulley route you will get a better sounding exhaust doing the headers. You can also get the same power doing a 103mm TB and very good blower porting and headers and not even mess with pulley swaps. At your power level I dont think the price of fuel justifies the gains so there! For the money you spent.. that's good power! Great Job! __________________ Kong Ported 2650, Crawford Racing Port Injection, Weapon X 112mm Adapter, NW112mm TB, Livernois Ported LT4 Heads, Lingenfelter GT32 stealth cam, Haltech Elite, and Carbon by Trufiber

05-13-2019, 01:39 PM	#18
sr71bb Drives: 2019 Camaro Z-28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,512	More Explanantion At the 647 RWHP level, the car is still operating on the STOCK fuel system. I was told however that is about MAXED out using the stock injectors and fuel pumps when using E85. Any other increase in power would necessitate an upgrade in the fuel system. Fuel system upgrades would probably go the route of the DSX system. I had a TRIPLE FORE system on my 2010 SS LS3 Camaro that made about 1000 RWHP with an F1R. That car however was living on the edge with the stock bottom end and eventually broke the crank through one of the journals. I used that particular car as a daily driver for about 12 months. Next logical mod , fuel upgrades notwithstanding would be a ported snout and blower (30 HP increase) and pulley upgrades for more boost. Would need the cam upgrade as well to get the bigger fuel lobe as well. __________________ __________________________________________ 2019 SS 1LE BIG NA A10 Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 CCW Below https://youtu.be/c9M5UHDftcA 4-15-23 at SCCA TT U1 Class MEGA Thread on THIS car: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602092 Retired Cars BELOW: 1973 Camaro, 1969 Camaro, 1969 Camaro SS RS 2010 Camaro SS with 1000HP F1R, 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Last edited by sr71bb; 05-13-2019 at 03:20 PM.

05-13-2019, 03:17 PM	#20
sr71bb Drives: 2019 Camaro Z-28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,512	TCM YES it was tweaked as well (SEE below post I found out afterwards that the TCM was not tuned) . Basically the car makes the same RWHP as a stock ZR1 (untuned of course). There is roughly a 300 pound weight difference in the corvettes favor. A stock hellcat and this ZL1 would be a good race in a straight line but this car can actually go around a corner as well. __________________ __________________________________________ 2019 SS 1LE BIG NA A10 Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 CCW Below https://youtu.be/c9M5UHDftcA 4-15-23 at SCCA TT U1 Class MEGA Thread on THIS car: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602092 Retired Cars BELOW: 1973 Camaro, 1969 Camaro, 1969 Camaro SS RS 2010 Camaro SS with 1000HP F1R, 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Last edited by sr71bb; 05-13-2019 at 08:48 PM.

05-14-2019, 08:50 AM	#25
sr71bb Drives: 2019 Camaro Z-28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,512	MISC No problem. I was reminded that about 90% of the things posted on the internet are wrong even from people that had the best of intentions (lol). Bryan at AMP mentioned to me that from driving impressions standpoint that he felt like the Zl1 1LE has slightly more body roll than the ZR1 (they have both) He was able to pull a 1.2 G on the Zl1 . He also felt like the ZL1 takes a little bit less effort to drive especially for a non-expert driver. Will know more as we autocross and do some road courses with the Zl1. Just as a precaution SAM confirmed that tires on the Zl1 are not particularly happy in wet conditions which I think most of us were aware of anyway. __________________ __________________________________________ 2019 SS 1LE BIG NA A10 Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 CCW Below https://youtu.be/c9M5UHDftcA 4-15-23 at SCCA TT U1 Class MEGA Thread on THIS car: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602092 Retired Cars BELOW: 1973 Camaro, 1969 Camaro, 1969 Camaro SS RS 2010 Camaro SS with 1000HP F1R, 2019 ZL1 1LE A10

06-13-2019, 07:16 PM	#27
sr71bb Drives: 2019 Camaro Z-28 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,512	Very happy with the car. It is extremely responsive. I got 16 mpg with it on a trip and I was absolutely hauling ass with it so that’s way more than I expected. __________________ __________________________________________ 2019 SS 1LE BIG NA A10 Eagles Canyon Raceway 2.7 CCW Below https://youtu.be/c9M5UHDftcA 4-15-23 at SCCA TT U1 Class MEGA Thread on THIS car: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602092 Retired Cars BELOW: 1973 Camaro, 1969 Camaro, 1969 Camaro SS RS 2010 Camaro SS with 1000HP F1R, 2019 ZL1 1LE A10

05-13-2019, 03:05 PM	#19
Mcmillion Drives: 2018 ZL1 1998 SS 1992 Typhoon Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: RR Posts: 262	Nice gains. I really want to get mine on flex fuel, did you tune the TCM also?

05-13-2019, 03:28 PM	#21
JD2018_ZL1 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Dallas Posts: 122	How was your experience with AMP? I never heard of them? Im not really planning to mod my car but never know..

05-13-2019, 09:59 PM	#24
jvandy50 Drives: 18 ZL1-1LE, 10 JKU Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: AR Posts: 596	Thank you for double checking on that for us. You may have talked me into spending some money

06-13-2019, 06:45 PM	#26
JD2018_ZL1 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Dallas Posts: 122	Would you mind giving an update on how you’re feeling about your mods and the shops job of the tune? I’m in Dallas and am curious how it’s been this far Thanks

06-13-2019, 07:59 PM	#28
GT-ER Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: FW TX Posts: 384	What Dyno did you go to? I'm in the DFW area.

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