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Old 12-26-2016, 05:51 PM   #15
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Old 12-26-2016, 06:53 PM   #16
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BC will customize the valving to the Swift spring rates. Swift springs are different than standard springs both in the material, their consistency and the fact that they're linear, not progressive.

Hence the difference between BC BR AND BC Custom. According to the tech at BC, you can get Swift springs front and rear.

I recommend these for a DD with occasional HPDE use. I would not use these for regular track use.
I have a set of these on another car and they work great. Perfect for DD with an occasional canyon. It allows you to dial in the exact rude height you want. The spring rates and valving will match unlike most lowering springs with stock shocks.

I don't consider these to be low end but rather mid range coil overs. KWv3 is on the high end. Not sure if there's any low end available.
BC' website says the Swift spring is not available for the rear, and both the front and rear springs are linear, not progressive.

By the time you buy the Swifts and custom valve them, you can buy a better set.

While pricey for a spring/strut/shock, the GM kit is matched, but only one drop setting. I've found that once someone has set their ride height, rarely do they go back and change it. Go too low and you have problems with driveways, problems getting on lifts etc.

With the Camaro, I have to screw the posts all the way down, and it's at stock height. My SS, I have to jack up the rear end to get the lift arms under it. My vette, the pads come off completely. So going low does have problems associated with it.
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Old 12-26-2016, 08:17 PM   #17
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BC' website says the Swift spring is not available for the rear, and both the front and rear springs are linear, not progressive.

By the time you buy the Swifts and custom valve them, you can buy a better set.

While pricey for a spring/strut/shock, the GM kit is matched, but only one drop setting. I've found that once someone has set their ride height, rarely do they go back and change it. Go too low and you have problems with driveways, problems getting on lifts etc.

With the Camaro, I have to screw the posts all the way down, and it's at stock height. My SS, I have to jack up the rear end to get the lift arms under it. My vette, the pads come off completely. So going low does have problems associated with it.
The problem is, the only other set is 2500 dollars. There's no middle ground because right now it's BC, KW V3's the GM kit or an unmatched spring/stock shock combo.

I'm not sure the GM kit will provide enough drop for me. .7 inches is nothing.
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Old 12-26-2016, 11:17 PM   #18
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Old 12-27-2016, 01:27 PM   #19
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I hear a lot of this stuff in the miata world and even in the brz world but it's crazy to hear about this stuff being cost prohibitive when the car cost $40k.
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Old 12-27-2016, 07:32 PM   #20
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I hear a lot of this stuff in the miata world and even in the brz world but it's crazy to hear about this stuff being cost prohibitive when the car cost $40k.
The added cost is for something I don't need smart guy... I don't need three way adjustable shocks. I don't know what world you live in, but I don't like to spend cash on things I don't need. I want the KW v1 set, but it's not out yet, so I'm considering other options.
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Old 12-27-2016, 09:57 PM   #21
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The added cost is for something I don't need smart guy... I don't need three way adjustable shocks. I don't know what world you live in, but I don't like to spend cash on things I don't need. I want the KW v1 set, but it's not out yet, so I'm considering other options.
I guess it would help people out if you told us what you planned to use the car for and what features/benefits appeal to you the most.
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Old 12-27-2016, 10:18 PM   #22
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I guess it would help people out if you told us what you planned to use the car for and what features/benefits appeal to you the most.
I use my car like 99% of most car enthusiasts. I drive it on the street and visit a track 2-3 times a year. I want a well balanced suspension set up that gets rid of my wheel well gap, and produces less squat/brake dive. However...I'm not a professional driver, nor do I compete. Three way adjustable is overkill for me.

There are two suspension set ups that I've had that were perfect for me. KW v1 on a 2015 mustang, and Koni yellow/steeda sport springs on a 2013 gt500. Those two actually felt identical as far as handling/balance. I literally never adjusted the Koni dampers though after I found where I wanted them. The big thing for me is how the dampers handle road imperfections. So my options are...

Kw v3- I know this set up is what I want but don't need the added adjustability

BC- never used them...not sure about the damper/spring balance

GM lowering kit- 20mm might not be enough...don't know much about the dampers it comes with. Also...not looking for a stock feel.
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:39 PM   #23
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I use my car like 99% of most car enthusiasts. I drive it on the street and visit a track 2-3 times a year. I want a well balanced suspension set up that gets rid of my wheel well gap, and produces less squat/brake dive. However...I'm not a professional driver, nor do I compete. Three way adjustable is overkill for me.

There are two suspension set ups that I've had that were perfect for me. KW v1 on a 2015 mustang, and Koni yellow/steeda sport springs on a 2013 gt500. Those two actually felt identical as far as handling/balance. I literally never adjusted the Koni dampers though after I found where I wanted them. The big thing for me is how the dampers handle road imperfections. So my options are...

Kw v3- I know this set up is what I want but don't need the added adjustability

BC- never used them...not sure about the damper/spring balance

GM lowering kit- 20mm might not be enough...don't know much about the dampers it comes with. Also...not looking for a stock feel.
can always go aftermarket springs/swaybars and add some koni yellow or bilsteins later!
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Old 12-31-2016, 10:30 PM   #24
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can always go aftermarket springs/swaybars and add some koni yellow or bilsteins later!
Yeah that's what I might do. Anyone know when aftermarket shocks will come out?
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:56 PM   #25
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I use my car like 99% of most car enthusiasts. I drive it on the street and visit a track 2-3 times a year. I want a well balanced suspension set up that gets rid of my wheel well gap, and produces less squat/brake dive. However...I'm not a professional driver, nor do I compete. Three way adjustable is overkill for me.

There are two suspension set ups that I've had that were perfect for me. KW v1 on a 2015 mustang, and Koni yellow/steeda sport springs on a 2013 gt500. Those two actually felt identical as far as handling/balance. I literally never adjusted the Koni dampers though after I found where I wanted them. The big thing for me is how the dampers handle road imperfections. So my options are...

Kw v3- I know this set up is what I want but don't need the added adjustability

BC- never used them...not sure about the damper/spring balance

GM lowering kit- 20mm might not be enough...don't know much about the dampers it comes with. Also...not looking for a stock feel.


I heard KW was working on the v1's next and should releasing them late spring.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:35 PM   #26
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:53 PM   #27
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Is this where you pretend to be someone different?
Wow man...real mature. So you think I'm doyal? Honestly I wish I were, because it seems that dude must have put you in your place or
something for you to be so butt hurt and accuse every new member of being him. Not sure what your agenda is, but I'm just trying to mod my car.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:54 PM   #28
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Wow man...real mature. So you think I'm doyal? Honestly I wish I were, because it seems that dude must have put you in your place or
something for you to be so butt hurt and accuse every new member of being him. Not sure what your agenda is, but I'm just trying to mod my car.
OK. Chill, the guy was a d-bag. Let's just say you're coming in here to the exact same threads where he was causing trouble. Your comments line right up with him.

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