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Old 01-14-2019, 09:42 AM   #211
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So here are the cliff note highlights for people.

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700+ HP
Tremec 7 Speed DCT ( Didn't see that one coming. I know they were testing it, but I thought they scrapped it and went A10)
Mid 3 second 0-60
Sub 11 second 1/4 mile
Largest front brakes in segment

Initial thoughts, I am shocked Ford actually stated mid 3 0-60 and sub 11 1/4. Very unford like.

From other sources,

Looks like there will be a " base model", Aero Pack and track pack, car has a carbon fiber drive shaft
Let's see what it can do and what the MSRP is.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:51 AM   #212
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I’m surprised they don’t have any official numbers ready. They teased the thing a year ago. You think that would be enough time to finalize everything.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:56 AM   #213
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Just curious where do you gather this information from?
What? The video and article I quoted... Someone did the cliff notes for the clicking-averse.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:06 AM   #214
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I’m surprised they don’t have any official numbers ready. They teased the thing a year ago. You think that would be enough time to finalize everything.
Agreed. I am surprised they don't have an official HP figure yet
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:09 AM   #215
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Why is it in the dealership and why (after all the money and mods you threw at it) are you selling it??

Yea I'm sure it'll be out by the end of the year as a 2020 MY if not a bit sooner. By then I'll be looking to get rid of my ZL1 for something. Either a GTR, C7 Z06, or possibly one of these. I'm also considering just holding onto the ZL1 until the 7th Gen comes out. Looking at the C8 Vette's numbers I can only imagine the 7th Gen ZL1 will be something else. Anyway ADMs on the GT500 will be thru the roof. And I refuse to pay any markup. So my chances of getting one are slim to none at best. But it's cool because like I mentioned, there are several other vehicles and options that have my attention. I'm under the impression that Ford will release HP, price, and performance numbers today so I'm waiting to see what it comes out to be. I'm gonna say $75K MSRP.

Yes the 2020 Vette might be just in time for me so that I don't have to wait for the next ZL1. I won't buy a standard Vette tho. So I'll have to wait to see what the next Z06 or some other higher performance version has to offer before I choose. And of course the price, lol!! I'm thinking (hoping) we'll see the next Z06 as a 2021 MY at the latest. It's a long wait but I can hold out I think.

Cars indeed come and go. There are lots of options right now for people who want Supercar level performance. The GT500 is starting to look a bit promising truth be told. But until there is more info and a detailed review I won't keep my hopes up.

Oh, guess you didn't know. I blew the A10 finally. It's at an unknown specified place. I got it covered by warranty. At least we found it's breaking point. haha. We are going to retune when I get it back and dial it down a bit. My last #'s were 1199/931 and spinning on the dyno so. I have a feeling we were in the mid 1200 hp range so. But, whatever.


And I'm now.............bored with the 500. I was hoping for more, but it will fall in line with the Zl1 and Zl1 1LE I have a feeling so nothing I'd spend $100k on that's for sure. Guess I'll wait till the hype dies down. Until then............
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:12 AM   #216
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Let's see what it can do and what the MSRP is.

Well, we can kind of figure out what it can do. Notice the weight is missing. It's rumored at 4200 lbs. Not sure how, but that's what I hear. If it's 4200 lbs, forget it. It's done. Esp on a track. But, we'll see I guess.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:29 AM   #217
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Largest front brakes cause heaviest.. �� Not comparing Fatcat.

I'm sure it'll be a monster. Prefer the 350 looks myself and wish this was offered with a manual, but no doubt engine will be amazing. Hopefully it's relatively reliable.
You know, this may be the strongest indicator towards the weight.

Ford is not known for typically doing things over-engineered just because (i.e. if they could get away with 15.5" rotors, but decided to do 16.5" just because it's more impressive). They typically only put things on cars that will get to whatever their goals are. So, if you look at the ZL1 and ZL1 1LE - the performance, size, weight - and it's brakes (15.4/14.4), what they are capable of doing, than look at the size of the new GT500's brakes (16.5/14.6)...

[GT350 is 15.4/15]

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Old 01-14-2019, 10:32 AM   #218
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I remember seeing in a brochure or a write up somewhere from one of the leaks that said it was 755bhp and 700ft-lbs. Granted, I don't really care about those numbers too much as its irrelevant to me. But the DCT and potential different trim packages with more aero, sound awesome.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:38 AM   #219
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I don't understand why people complain about 700 horses, that is tons of power and so is 650 .... I think the ZL1 still has more torque and is lighter than this but let's be honest Ford and Dodge are creating more hype their sports cars. Team Camaro needs better marketing and needs to make the brand appear more exciting. I'm sure the existence of the Vette affects that but it needs to change for the 7th gen.

They can market well and we will see that magic with the C8 corvette surprise reveal tomorrow. Either way I support all American manufacturers especially being a Detroiter and I'm excited about this GT500 too.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:41 AM   #220
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Agreed. I am surprised they don't have an official HP figure yet
They are prob still tweaking them.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:49 AM   #221
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I have to say, I am impressed with the GT500 so far, where I didn't think I really was going to be.

It seems that Ford Performance put a lot of effort into making the car a serious "triple-threat" car. I think it will out-perform the ZL1 and offer circuit performance similar to the ZL1 1LE. I don't think it will completely annihilate the ZL1 though, as the Camaro has the weight advantage.

But FP revised the front suspension geometry (even over the GT350), revised the entire cooling system (for track use), spent a lot of effort on aero and vehicle dynamics calibration (taking a lot of real lessons-learned from the GT, GT race car, GT350 and GT4 race car).

Should be a very impressive car!
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:57 AM   #222
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Im not super impressed. With a DCT its mid 3s 0-60 and Ford claims sub 11 in the 1.4 mile. Meaning its prob 10.95 with perfect prep and conditions. Not that much faster than the current ZL1. Similar 0-60s with it being only marginally faster in the 1/4 mile. Meh.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:18 AM   #223
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Can we, for a moment, comment on how jaded the automotive community has become?

"Mid 3 second 0-60, sub 11 seconds, 7 speed DCT with over 700 HP....not impressed"

Meanwhile only 7 years ago it was *very* impressive when the 2011 Camaro and Mustang were running mid 12 stock and the ZL1 was hitting 12 flats stock.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:23 AM   #224
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Can we, for a moment, comment on how jaded the automotive community has become?

"Mid 3 second 0-60, sub 11 seconds, 7 speed DCT with over 700 HP....not impressed"

Meanwhile only 7 years ago it was *very* impressive when the 2011 Camaro and Mustang were running mid 12 stock and the ZL1 was hitting 12 flats stock.
I was going to say something similar. I never thought I would see a 700+ HP Mustang from the factory. I never thought I would see a 10 second mustang from the factory.
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