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Old 12-19-2016, 12:52 PM   #141
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John.....Thank you for your comments!!! For me its all about the roll race for a A10 Zl1 verse A8 Hellcat!!!
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Old 12-19-2016, 01:22 PM   #142
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NHRA definition of a drag race.

A drag race is an acceleration contest, on a track, or dragstrip, that begins from a standing start between two vehicles over a measured distance.
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Old 12-19-2016, 02:49 PM   #143
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...zl1-drag-race/
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:21 PM   #144
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...gotta love the last sentence in that article. Greatness.
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:26 PM   #145
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Hellcat is faster. Calm down, bro.
I am calm Bro we're did I say the Hellcat is not faster I own one so I know how fast they are!! What I'm saying is the whole vid is about this!

"Expect to see approx. 100 rwhp gains with tune, intake, pulley and headers for around $5k worth of parts. At this power level, the all-in performance value becomes unmatched."
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Old 12-19-2016, 04:44 PM   #146
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I am calm Bro we're did I say the Hellcat is not faster I own one so I know how fast they are!! What I'm saying is the whole vid is about this!

"Expect to see approx. 100 rwhp gains with tune, intake, pulley and headers for around $5k worth of parts. At this power level, the all-in performance value becomes unmatched."
Wow, 5 grand for 100 HP? I got 100 HP out of a Terminator for $600. Isn't there a 2300 TVS for these motors?
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Old 12-19-2016, 05:08 PM   #147
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Feedback from the folks who ran the race:





Drag Racer Grumpy Jenkins was one of the quickest shifters of all time. I suspect if he was in that ZL1 the outcome would be a bit different. But Grumpy is long gone.
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Old 12-19-2016, 05:18 PM   #148
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Wow, 5 grand for 100 HP? I got 100 HP out of a Terminator for $600. Isn't there a 2300 TVS for these motors?
I had an 03 Cobra with a 2.3 Whipple on it. You're right, they're easy and cheap to modify. It seems odd to me as well, that it would cost that much to get 100 HP. I would imagine an upper pulley, crank pulley and a tune would get you close to 100 on a ZL1? Did you just do a 2.76 upper with a tune on your car? You usually don't have to do BAP or pumps, injectors, MAF unless you port the blower and get closer to 500 RWHP.
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:04 PM   #149
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Well this has been an interesting Thread. Enjoyed the Video. It should not be perceived as a true comparison. I have a Hellcat A8, too. The Video indicates clearly the advantage of todays High Speed Automatics over manual transmissions. It is also clear that role on comparisons don't show much about traction and speed. I suspect the ZL1 would have out run the HC with a really good driver from a stop instead of a role on. Reality...Most people driving manual transmissions don't shift well enough to out run dual clutch or high speed autos. Traction of my HC from a stop is entertaining but its not very good. Both cars are awesome. I truly enjoy my SS Camaro because of its handling, speed, and light weight. The ZL1 is probably going to be a better car on the track for sure. The HC would continue to be a more comfortable and fun for me on the road. If the ZL1 used the stock seats from the SS it would be a toss up except performance of the Camaro...just better. Now last thing is braking. The HC brakes are far better than the SS. I am guessing the ZL1 will be just as good or better than the HC. Having had a 2015 Gt and a HC I think Chevy SS Brembo brakes are poor.
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:30 PM   #150
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Why can't they do it from a stop ? Same w zo6
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:57 PM   #151
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Why can't they do it from a stop ? Same w zo6
Simple answer is that it takes a hell of a lot of talent to get a good launch with 700hp and street tires. Now you have to find two drivers with that kind of talent for the results to be meaningful. As John put it, he wanted to show which car is faster, not which driver is faster.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:42 PM   #152
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Why can't they do it from a stop ? Same w zo6
I guess no one is interested in finding out if one can launch better or not.
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:09 PM   #153
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I had an 03 Cobra with a 2.3 Whipple on it. You're right, they're easy and cheap to modify. It seems odd to me as well, that it would cost that much to get 100 HP. I would imagine an upper pulley, crank pulley and a tune would get you close to 100 on a ZL1? Did you just do a 2.76 upper with a tune on your car? You usually don't have to do BAP or pumps, injectors, MAF unless you port the blower and get closer to 500 RWHP.
Yeah, I believe that was the pulley size I used, Steeda Intake, and a RWTD tune. Fast car then. Extremely difficult to launch at a dragstrip. I could never get that right even with aftermarket half shafts, rear end brace, bushings, and DRs. Gotta wonder what a TVS would do with this ZL1.
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Old 12-19-2016, 08:31 PM   #154
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Simple answer is that it takes a hell of a lot of talent to get a good launch with 700hp and street tires. Now you have to find two drivers with that kind of talent for the results to be meaningful. As John put it, he wanted to show which car is faster, not which driver is faster.
Especially if those street tires are skinnier than an anorexic pin worm.
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