[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

I've ran at Stanton and Milan during late fall with - DA. Stanton typically had better weather...and a much lighter crowd.

I don't disagree, it's not the norm. But there will be faster hero times to come for the mustang...you can count on that.

Again, I'm not saying the MY18 is a world beater...but it looks like an E85 tune on a MY18 is no cake walk for a stock ZL1.

Never said there wouldn't be.

The mark to beat is 11.8 stock to the tire.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

Nope, I didn't say it was the same. But it's still just considered a tune (flex fuel) and wheels/tires. The fact that it's for E85 doesn't magically make it something additional on top of a normal tune.

No one at M6G lists E85 as an additional mod. Unlike the camaro, it doesn't require any additional hardware.

If you buy a 93 octane tune over a 91 octane tune...you wouldn't consider it an additional mod. E85 is the same thing (for the mustang).

Well guess what, you don't have E85 in the tank...you don't get any gain on top of their already "tuned" 93 octane base. Sounds like to me it is not "just a tune". Otherwise Lund wouldn't have mentioned it.

And there are absolutely 0 mods listed on the times on M6G. So not finding E85 isn't anything special.

You can get 91 octane at least everywhere. You can't get E85 everywhere, nor can every car run it without modifications. Every car can burn 93 or 91, it just might not do it any good.

What was the purpose of running the car without E85 tune if it's all just the same thing? To show what the car does with just a tune then what it would do with E85.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by germanicus

You sound really desperate in these posts. Its hard to take seriously.
Grasping at straws. Why such vitriol and defensiveness?

However you want to spin it, or stick your head in the sand, after THREE WEEKS of availability there are stock GT's running flat 12.0. 3 weeks. Against over 2 years of 2ss, and the BEST you have to show are 4 results which are faster. TWO YEARS. All of which are under .1 second difference.

Let that settle for a moment.

You realize that wheels/tires and tune gets the new GT faster than every single stock zl1 except for ONE on your fast list? A 650hp car. That's bananas. I get it, if I dropped mid 60 grand on a supercharged 650 hp car, and 3 weeks after the new GT came out people beat 99% of the recorded stock runs on your fast list with a drag pack set of wheels and tune, I might be upset as well!

Of course, its all together possible that you and others here don't totally define their sense of self worth based on how OTHERS perform in the car they own. Or how they perceive OTHERS perceive their car? Surely its not just about internet bragging rights? Its just hard to tell with how sensitive people seem to be!

R-E-L-A-X

Whether it fits your view, the GT350 has been a huge success for Ford. For all the talk of ATP in defense of the dismal Camaro sales over the past 2 years, what pray tell do you think the ATP is when they *continue* to sell at $20,000 above msrp? Is that an indication of bad sales for the GT350? Taking second place in 2016 MT Best Drivers car, only to have been beaten by a McLaren?

spin spin spin spin

I think all my buddies here answered and shut you up better than I could have. So I don't even need to answer any of this.

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

Did you not see the run lund did on their E85 tune with wheels/tires (17" MT R drag radials)? The 11.31 @ 124mph puts it squarely at number 2 on the ZL1 fast list.

So we're comparing modded and tuned GTs with DRs to bone stock ZL1s on stock tires? LOL! That 11.31 is also faster than what some Hellcats have done. I would love to see you go on their forum and imply that a bolt-on GT is faster than a Hellcat. They'd eat you and the 18 GT alive pal. BTW, is that GT also faster than a 13-14 GT500? What about the 13-14 Viper? You'd get walked like you were standing still.

But if you ever get the balls to do so, then go get yourself an 18 GT and come on out here to NJ and lets see if you got anything for my ZL1.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

Nope, I didn't say it was the same. But it's still just considered a tune (flex fuel) and wheels/tires. The fact that it's for E85 doesn't magically make it something additional on top of a normal tune.

No one at M6G lists E85 as an additional mod. Unlike the camaro, it doesn't require any additional hardware.

If you buy a 93 octane tune over a 91 octane tune...you wouldn't consider it an additional mod. E85 is the same thing (for the mustang).

WTF??

So adding E85 and the necessary tune for it is considered stock for a Mustang? LOL!!

[jmackisback]

out of the woodwork

phrase

Those who suddenly appear in public or reveal their opinions when previously they did not make themselves known.

The Mustang owners are coming out of the woodwork now that the 2018 GT has started to catch up with the 6th gen Camaro

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Well guess what, you don't have E85 in the tank...you don't get any gain on top of their already "tuned" 93 octane base. Sounds like to me it is not "just a tune". Otherwise Lund wouldn't have mentioned it.

And there are absolutely 0 mods listed on the times on M6G. So not finding E85 isn't anything special.

You can get 91 octane at least everywhere. You can't get E85 everywhere, nor can every car run it without modifications. Every car can burn 93 or 91, it just might not do it any good.

What was the purpose of running the car without E85 tune if it's all just the same thing? To show what the car does with just a tune then what it would do with E85.

You can't find 93 octane fuel in california, yet no-one calls it a "93 tune". It's a tune, the fact that it requires different fuel does not negate the fact. And even on a 93 tune...if you run 91 you will get less horsepower. This is how all modern tunes work.

You all are grasping for straws here to try to make a simple E85 tune look like something it's not.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I think all my buddies here answered and shut you up better than I could have. So I don't even need to answer any of this.



So we're comparing modded and tuned GTs with DRs to bone stock ZL1s on stock tires? LOL! That 11.31 is also faster than what some Hellcats have done. I would love to see you go on their forum and imply that a bolt-on GT is faster than a Hellcat. They'd eat you and the 18 GT alive pal. BTW, is that GT also faster than a 13-14 GT500? What about the 13-14 Viper? You'd get walked like you were standing still.

But if you ever get the balls to do so, then go get yourself an 18 GT and come on out here to NJ and lets see if you got anything for my ZL1.

What was your fastest stock hellcat and ZL1 run? It's funny that a GT with tires and tune has the ability to keep up with (or in your case, beat) your supercharged bests...no?

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

WTF??

So adding E85 and the necessary tune for it is considered stock for a Mustang? LOL!!

[Gunkk]

LOL. Well at least this guy is entertaining.

[Snowblind]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Kind of gain you would expect for E85 on DI. Definitely one of the best bangs for the buck.

Agree 100%

Aside from what has already said...Pro tuner, non-rushed passes, good DA...the car ran really well, it's making powah up top no doubt. I think his times will be the high-bar watermark for the 2018 GT imo. (begins to daze about having a pro tuner with me at the track)

I think a converter will help them out with the soft 60's.

I like the dual direct and port injection setup for room to grow.

The weight penalty of 150lbs...it is what is for them.

Now that they are running 12:1 over the previous 11:1, it may not respond as well to boost ??


It's gonna be a good year next year !!!!

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

You can't find 93 octane fuel in california, yet no-one calls it a "93 tune". It's a tune, the fact that it requires different fuel does not negate the fact. And even on a 93 tune...if you run 91 you will get less horsepower. This is how all modern tunes work.

You all are grasping for straws here to try to make a simple E85 tune look like something it's not.

Did he put E85 in the tank and run it or did he also tune for it? If he tuned for it then it is modded. If he just put E85 in and ran it like that then it is not modded. Considering that he tuned it, then it was used as a mod. It is the same as putting 93 octane in it and then running a 93 octane tune. The car would be modded. If you just put 93 octane in and ran it as such then it is not. Stop lying and playing dumb. You Mustang guys look for every advantage and ever lie you can pull to give yourself an advantage and STILL end up losing.

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

What was your fastest stock hellcat and ZL1 run?

What do you run in whatever vehicle you have? I'd like to see a pic of the vehicle and a pic of the time slip as well. And so we'll all know if you're lying, I'd like to see both pics with your S/N and the date/time as well.

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

It's funny that a GT with tires and tune has the ability to keep up with (or in your case, beat) your supercharged bests...no?

Go buy one and let's find out. Like I said before, I am not worried about a GT stock or otherwise. If it was that impressive, I would have had one before LMR got their hands on one. I'd be as worried about that GT as I'd be worried about a Civic.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by Snowblind

Agree 100%

Aside from what has already said...Pro tuner, non-rushed passes, good DA...the car ran really well, it's making powah up top no doubt. I think his times will be the bar for the 2018 GT imo. (begins to daze about having a pro tuner with me at the track)

I think a converter will help them out with the soft 60's.

I like the dual and port injection setup for room to grow.

The weight penalty of 150lbs...it is what is for them.

Now that they are running 12:1 over the previous 11:1, it may not respond to boost as well ??


It's gonna be a good year next year !!!!

Lund seems to think the auto's optioned with 3.55's should help out with the 60' as well. It sounds like they are still tweaking things though, so it will be interesting to see what these tunes do in owners hands.

As for boost, Whipple shows that these will be just as potent on 93 pump fuel...and will have a more efficient blower to boot.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Gunkk

LOL. Well at least this guy is entertaining.

He can be our new comedian. We can read his posts and just laugh. And what makes it even more funny is that we won't be able to tell if he's goofing or if he really believes what he's saying!!

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Did he put E85 in the tank and run it or did he also tune for it? If he tuned for it then it is modded. If he just put E85 in and ran it like that then it is not modded. Considering that he tuned it, then it was used as a mod. It is the same as putting 93 octane in it and then running a 93 octane tune. The car would be modded. If you just put 93 octane in and ran it as such then it is not. Stop lying and playing dumb. You Mustang guys look for every advantage and ever lie you can pull to give yourself an advantage and STILL end up losing.


What do you run in whatever vehicle you have? I'd like to see a pic of the vehicle and a pic of the time slip as well. And so we'll all know if you're lying, I'd like to see both pics with your S/N and the date/time as well.


Go buy one and let's find out. Like I said before, I am not worried about a GT stock or otherwise. If it was that impressive, I would have had one before LMR got their hands on one. I'd be as worried about that GT as I'd be worried about a Civic.

So is this tune and drag radial NA mustang running a quicker ET than your ZL1? How does the MPH compare? How about your hellcat? How does it feel that a couple simple and relatively cheap mods are able to keep up with your "supercars"?

Your thought logic is funny. Please tell me more how (and where) I said that an E85 tune is not considered a "mod". This should be good.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

So is this tune and drag radial NA mustang running a quicker ET than your ZL1? How does the MPH compare? How about your hellcat? How does it feel that a couple simple and relatively cheap mods are able to keep up with your "supercars"?

Your thought logic is funny. Please tell me more how (and where) I said that an E85 tune is not considered a "mod". This should be good.

He ask you a valid question. What about your car if you want to make it personal?

You want to make it about a GT versus his ZL1 or Hellcat. Cherry picking. Just as lame as FastCarFanBoy's mythical GT gonna run down a ZL1

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

Lund seems to think the auto's optioned with 3.55's should help out with the 60' as well. It sounds like they are still tweaking things though, so it will be interesting to see what these tunes do in owners hands.

As for boost, Whipple shows that these will be just as potent on 93 pump fuel...and will have a more efficient blower to boot.

The LMR car didn't 60 foot any better with the 3.55s.

Maybe it was the conditions.