[Swayse]

Quarter mile times are about launch. Quarter mile MPH is about power. Which one is more important to you? I'd rather have the MPH, but I'm a stick shift guy that loves freeway roll ons.

[jmackisback]

Originally Posted by Swayse

Quarter mile times are about launch. Quarter mile MPH is about power. Which one is more important to you? I'd rather have the MPH, but I'm a stick shift guy that loves freeway roll ons.

Who cares if you trap 150mph and run a 15 second quarter. If you cant translate the power to real life results then whats the point.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Again. The trim of the SS isn’t in question because they are all the same. GT tradition is that there are option combinations that can run but far more posers.

So my question to you regarding the mythical GT that’s going to run down a ZL1...
and would that be all M6 ZL1s or just poor passes compared to GT asterisk car hero runs?

He would compare the best run ever of the best combination Mustang to the worst ever run of the M6 ZL1.

Originally Posted by Swayse

Quarter mile times are about launch. Quarter mile MPH is about power. Which one is more important to you? I'd rather have the MPH, but I'm a stick shift guy that loves freeway roll ons.

Yea and an 18 GT sure as hell ain't gonna beat a ZL1 on a roll-on either. They can't even beat the GT350 on a roll and the GT350 comes nowhere even close to the ZL1. And neither of them are trapping the MPH of the ZL1.

Originally Posted by jmackisback

Who cares if you trap 150mph and run a 15 second quarter. If you cant translate the power to real life results then whats the point.

They would be getting whupped by everything out there. I've seen plenty of people out there trapping high MPH but running 13s. One guy had a blown S550 GT on a built engine making 800 to the wheels on the stock suspension and stock tires...the idiot. He ran a 13 at 135 MPH. And on the freeway he was getting toasted by everything out there because all he did was spin. By the time he hooked he was like a quarter mile behind, lol!! I walked his ass in my FBO 5th Gen SS soo bad that I was embarrassed for him.

[Swayse]

Originally Posted by jmackisback

Who cares if you trap 150mph and run a 15 second quarter. If you cant translate the power to real life results then whats the point.

Lol!! On the flip side, who cares what a car runs on a prepped track with your tires at the perfect psi and heated to perfection. What matters to me is how it feels when I downshift to 3rd at 70 mph, whether or not there is a LT1 seeing my taillights.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by hotlap

and would that be all M6 ZL1s or just poor passes compared to GT asterisk car hero runs?

four GT's have run the 1/4 so far. two went 12.0, one went 12.3x and the other went 12.44 on a 2.3 60'. admittedly thats a small sample size , but how do you look at those times and come to the conclusion that 12.0 will be the hero time?

with the M6 ZL1 it seems like poor passes are all the car is really capable of in stock form. The one guy that managed an 11 had to go through hoops to trick the computer or it was a 12 second car as well.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

four GT's have run the 1/4 so far. two went 12.0, one went 12.3x and the other went 12.44 on a 2.3 60'. admittedly thats a small sample size , but how do you look at those times and come to the conclusion that 12.0 will be the hero time?

with the M6 ZL1 it seems like poor passes are all the car is really capable of in stock form. The one guy that managed an 11 had to go through hoops to trick the computer or it was a 12 second car as well.

A track rental at the fastest track in the country in negative DA. MIR is one of the fastest it don’t get much better. And it’s december. Where do you think hero times come from? The east coast in winter. Always have.

You don’t think that will be above average ? Can you think of a better day than that ? I don’t know of one member here who has had that luxury in the last 2 years

Even with a drag pack they didn’t surpass the stock tire SS record of 11.8. You must be worried

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

four GT's have run the 1/4 so far. two went 12.0, one went 12.3x and the other went 12.44 on a 2.3 60'. admittedly thats a small sample size , but how do you look at those times and come to the conclusion that 12.0 will be the hero time?

with the M6 ZL1 it seems like poor passes are all the car is really capable of in stock form. The one guy that managed an 11 had to go through hoops to trick the computer or it was a 12 second car as well.

So if I understand you correctly, all M6 ZL1s run 12.0 and only a hero run will break 11s. You're saying the average A10 GT will also be a 12.0 car (or better) that will embarrass those ZL1 owners?

Or, is it like we are saying and you're comparing a specific option combination hero run to a average or worse M6 ZL1. Yeah.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

four GT's have run the 1/4 so far. two went 12.0, one went 12.3x and the other went 12.44 on a 2.3 60'. admittedly thats a small sample size , but how do you look at those times and come to the conclusion that 12.0 will be the hero time?

with the M6 ZL1 it seems like poor passes are all the car is really capable of in stock form. The one guy that managed an 11 had to go through hoops to trick the computer or it was a 12 second car as well.

The 12.3 was on DRs. I'm not sure about the 12.4.

The ZL1 that did the 11 was well into the 11s. It wasn't an 11.9 or an 11.8. It was an 11.6 at 125 MPH which is a good indicator of what these cars should be able to run. Not to mention it was in May and he did a couple other runs in the 11s. The GT in the absolute best conditions managed a 12.02 which is still behind the 11.8 and 11.9 of the SS. In fact on our fast list there are 4 others who have done better than these pro shops/tuners. One of them ran in May and the other in June. The fact that it took the absolute best conditions to get those times in the GT is exactly what makes it a hero run.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The GT in the absolute best conditions managed a 12.02 which is still behind the 11.8 and 11.9 of the SS. In fact on our fast list there are 4 others who have done better than these pro shops/tuners. One of them ran in May and the other in June. The fact that it took the absolute best conditions to get those times in the GT is exactly what makes it a hero run.

absolute best conditions? -500da? we get that in South FL.

Your fast list has been compiled for 2 years and you have 4 cars that have gone <.1 faster than half of all 18 GT's that have made passes.

you guys put way to much stock in rented tracks. If you know what your doing at the track and your grounds crew is worth a damn you wont run faster because rental.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

absolute best conditions? -500da? we get that in South FL.

Your fast list has been compiled for 2 years and you have 4 cars that have gone <.1 faster than half of all 18 GT's that have made passes.

you guys put way to much stock in rented tracks. If you know what your doing at the track and your grounds crew is worth a damn you wont run faster because rental.

In which one was in December right after the car came out. It also went 11.7 on a drag pack right after it came out. I went 11.6 in -500 DA with my 260 lbs behind the wheel. 11.8 the first time I ever went to the track.

Because this is the fastest time of year.

You wont run faster at a rental when you don't have to wait in line ? That's worth a tenth. Car can be completely cool and run right after.

-500 DA isn't good? Im lucky to see that in Michigan before the tracks close.

A track rental with a shop behind it on the east coast in December is just your average run. GTFO with your nonsense

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

In which one was in December right after the car came out. It also went 11.7 on a drag pack right after it came out. I went 11.6 in -500 DA with my 260 lbs behind the wheel. 11.8 the first time I ever went to the track.

Because this is the fastest time of year.

You wont run faster at a rental when you don't have to wait in line ? That's worth a tenth. Car can be completely cool and run right after.Hence why I stipulated people who know what their doing at the track. If you cant figure out how to get through the lanes without getting the motor hot....you're not one of them. and no you dont have to push the car

-500 DA isn't good? Im lucky to see that in Michigan before the tracks close. I never said -500 wasn't good...simply that it is far from the best possible conditions as stated

A track rental with a shop behind it on the east coast in December is just your average run. GTFO with your nonsense

in blue

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

in blue

Youre downplaying it like a tool and comparing it to our fast list like its got so much more left. When no one on our fast list has had a track rental in December at MIR.

Do you need a track rental in -1500? You got .2 to go when no one has beaten that yet with a drag pack. A rental in -500 is far from best conditions? Nope not far from...but damn near. keep downplaying

Don't worry when tunes start being released the stock times will magically jump. Give it time. Then you can come on here and be happy.

What technique you got to stay cool that is as good as a rental? I know some that help. But nothing like a rental.

I guess its kinda funny that someone who doesn't know what they are doing went faster than the mighty 18 GT at a track rental with better DA LMAO!

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

absolute best conditions? -500da? we get that in South FL.

Your fast list has been compiled for 2 years and you have 4 cars that have gone <.1 faster than half of all 18 GT's that have made passes.

you guys put way to much stock in rented tracks. If you know what your doing at the track and your grounds crew is worth a damn you wont run faster because rental.

What about the videos I posted? You conveniently keep forgetting about that.

2 years. 2 months. It doesn't matter when. What matters is that at the best the GT can muster with professionals at the wheel, they cannot beat our best times. Even with the absolute most favorable conditions they are still behind.

Plus YOU'RE the ones who came on here bragging and showboating and posting up videos about what these shops and tooners are doing. We post up videos showing that we're faster and now you're talking about the SS being out for 2 years? And didn't you ridicule us when we all said that everything the GT is doing has been done by us for 2 years? I don't expect you to actually answer because you avoid every question thrown at you. But basically you're a hypocrite. You guys posted those videos because you didn't think we had videos running faster.

[mvfjet]

At least we can all agree on that the GT350 is the slowest 500+HP car ever and that a Camaro SS and Mustang GT will both smoke it for much less money.