[Sven59]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Keep reading those reports and going off what they tell you and you'll be driving a 2103 Camaro forever. Like I said before, I think the words from actual owners hold much more weight than anything you have to say.

When Pontiac closed up I felt sorry for their owners. Luckily GM continues to support. Wonder what happens when Fiat drops Dodge and then goes under, Deloreon?

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[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Sven59

If you notice I have not purchased one yet. Still deciding, but so far Chevy is definitely in the lead, waiting to see what Ford delivers and the new ZL1 1/4 mile monster with a VIN, since they already have one without.

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Did I forget to mention Dodge? Yes

I'm not gonna knock the reports as they do serve a purpose. But at some point you have to take into account what an owner has to say. Or don't, your choice. Maybe you'll never know. But I certainly didn't pay one bit of attention to even one of those reports and I do not regret my purchase one bit. Maybe one day you'll give it a try. If you do then I'm telling you right now that you'll see exactly how wrong you are.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Keep reading those reports and going off what they tell you and you'll be driving a 2103 Camaro forever. Like I said before, I think the words from actual owners hold much more weight than anything you have to say.

Actually I now drive a 16 Silverado, all the reports and awards are correct, outstanding vehicle and not one issue. Of course that is only my opinion.

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[Sven59]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I'm not gonna knock the reports as they do serve a purpose. But at some point you have to take into account what an owner has to say. Or don't, your choice. Maybe you'll never know. But I certainly didn't pay one bit of attention to even one of those reports and I do not regret my purchase one bit. Maybe one day you'll give it a try. If you do then I'm telling you right now that you'll see exactly how wrong you are.

Listening to individual owners will only give you insight into their individual experience. That's like saying because a few whites are KKK all whites must be KKK.

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[Sven59]

I am not Nostrodamus but the Challenger is hanging on to a 2009 chassis, and they just dropped one of the most impressive track cars ever built. Predictions?

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[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Sven59

Actually I now drive a 16 Silverado, all the reports and awards are correct, outstanding vehicle and not one issue. Of course that is only my opinion.

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No issues other than they are so ugly that you have to sneak up on them to get in.
I won't care if it lasted for ever. I have to at least like what it looks like.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Keep reading those reports and going off what they tell you and you'll be driving a 2103 Camaro forever. Like I said before, I think the words from actual owners hold much more weight than anything you have to say.

I really hope you are correct, the 5th gen ZL1 platform is bombproof. Perfect platform to build upon. I hope to leave that to one of my kids.

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[Sven59]

Originally Posted by motorhead

No issues other than they are so ugly that you have to sneak up on them to get in.
I won't care if it lasted for ever. I have to at least like what it looks like.

I get compliments all the time. One guy said he was glad they were making them look like trucks again. You should really look into them, I highly recommend.

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[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Sven59

I get compliments all the time. One guy said he was glad they were making them look like trucks again. You should really look into them, I highly recommend.

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I have can't stand the looks. Im content with my Fords currently in the truck department. I still have some older generation Chevy trucks ,and yes, they have been verly reliable. I cant say the Fords have been any worse though. Im sure you are going to show me some chart that is supposed to change my mine though.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I have can't stand the looks. Im content with my Fords currently in the truck department. I still have some older generation Chevy trucks ,and yes, they have been verly reliable. I cant say the Fords have been any worse though. Im sure you are going to show me some chart that is supposed to change my mine though.

I am not opposed to Ford, their move to a more track focused and overall better engineered car is great. Chevy has still kept ahead in that department, I am interested to see what the 500 is. It will bet tough to top the ZL1-1LE as a track monster and the Hammer as a 1/4 mile monster.

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[Sven59]

Originally Posted by Sven59

I am not opposed to Ford, their move to a more track focused and overall better engineered car is great. Chevy has still kept ahead in that department, I am interested to see what the 500 is. It will be tough to top the ZL1-1LE as a track monster and the Hammer as a 1/4 mile monster.

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And have to admit, I like the looks of the new Mustang.

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[Sven59]

Originally Posted by Sven59

I am not Nostrodamus but the Challenger is hanging on to a 2009 chassis, and they just dropped one of the most impressive track cars ever built. Predictions?

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Captain?

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[TheShooter]

Originally Posted by ninetres

Not upset at all. Ive just chuckled over the last 5+ months of you constantly talking about buying one, even though you have 327 things you didn’t like about it. Even in this thread you constantly say “my ZL1”, but you don’t own one, or have any serious intention of buying any Camaro product GM currently offers of has previewed. Thanks for the constant laughs!

You don’t own a ZL1, or plan on buying one that’s offered, yet spend a tremendous amount of time on this board discussing them. It’s strange. I would never think to spend time on a mustang or HC board. But it’s a free country so comment away!

Before I bought my Hellcat I spent over a year on those boards. I don't recall anyone citing rules where I had a deadline to buy one.

I spent two years on the Beneteau boards talking with owners before buying my sailboat. No one bothered me about not owning one yet. I did buy one in the end.

I'm planning to buy a ZL1 and perhaps a ZL1 1LE. I'm not ready because the refresh is around the corner and I already have a fun car, so no huge rush. I recently drove a new ZL1 on Angeles Crest, so I know that this is the sort of handling I'm after.

So what's the problem?

I'm pretty much a fan of Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Porsche, Lambo, Tesla...all amazing tech and design efforts that appeal to people for different reasons. You've got some trolls here; folks who really just want to bash cars and pump up what they own.

Did anyone here notice the Tesla announcement? 0-60 in 1.9 seconds for the BASE car. Top speed over 250 MPH and 600 mile range. The reaction from enthusiasts is WOW! The reaction from trolls is bashing Tesla. Some goofball bashing Dodge because he's threatened by the Dodge Demon's popularity is more of the same. What's worse is that he has ZERO education beyond what he wants to believe.


Rob

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by TheShooter

Before I bought my Hellcat I spent over a year on those boards. I don't recall anyone citing rules where I had a deadline to buy one.

I spent two years on the Beneteau boards talking with owners before buying my sailboat. No one bothered me about not owning one yet. I did buy one in the end.

I'm planning to buy a ZL1 and perhaps a ZL1 1LE. I'm not ready because the refresh is around the corner and I already have a fun car, so no huge rush. I recently drove a new ZL1 on Angeles Crest, so I know that this is the sort of handling I'm after.

So what's the problem?

I'm pretty much a fan of Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Porsche, Lambo, Tesla...all amazing tech and design efforts that appeal to people for different reasons. You've got some trolls here; folks who really just want to bash cars and pump up what they own.

Did anyone here notice the Tesla announcement? 0-60 in 1.9 seconds for the BASE car. Top speed over 250 MPH and 600 mile range. The reaction from enthusiasts is WOW! The reaction from trolls is bashing Tesla. Some goofball bashing Dodge because he's threatened by the Dodge Demon's popularity is more of the same. What's worse is that he has ZERO education beyond what he wants to believe.


Rob

If you have not woken up to the point that fossil fueled cars are going to be replaced you are a dinosaur, but riding out on the most badass dinasaur is what is fun.

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