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Old 11-12-2017, 05:24 PM   #15
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:41 PM   #16
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possibly. I suspect that next generation will be full electric or hybrid, with only non-street intended models gasoline. My thoughts are in 10 years time the electrics will be faster and lighter.
I hope you're wrong.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:40 PM   #17
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The LT5 will never be in a Camaro...Why? They won't put the same engine that's in the halo car (ZR1) into the Camaro, nor will they change engines halfway through a run.

When 7th Generation Camaros come out, there will be a new "LT4" that the ZL1 (Or whatever they call it) option will get. The LT5 will never be dropped into a Camaro and if it is, it'll be a Z28. That said, the LT5 is what GM should have made from the GET GO for the Z06/ZL1 and figured out a high tech option for a ZR1. I Hope that for C8 Corvettes and Gen 7 Camaros they step up the game. (Dual Clutches, Flat planes, twin turbos, and the like).

Now a Gen 7 Camaro may save a lot of similarities with the LT5, like hopefully a sizable blower and power numbers, but it'll be like the LS9 to LT4.

GM hasn't changed engines in their highest performance models half way through a run in a long time (Since the LS2 to LS3 switch in the 08 Vettes). And with their new save-every-cent-on-performance plan they have (AKA dropping the same LT4 and LT1 engine into every single Camaro/Corvette/CTS-V), they're not going to start doing it now.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:54 PM   #18
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The LT5 will never be in a Camaro...Why? They won't put the same engine that's in the halo car (ZR1) into the Camaro, nor will they change engines halfway through a run.
And that's exactly why the ZL1 will always be behind the competition. Very frustrating.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:55 PM   #19
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Seeing the impressive LT5 with 755 horses and 715 torque, it’s only a matter of time before it hits the ZL1 or even a Z28. I think we’ll see it 2020. I’ll bank on it. Just speculating though. It’s truly an awesome sight to see Chevy producing the worlds best sports cars for the money with the ZL1 and ZR1 and with 2.50 gas prices to boot. What a time to be alive.
$2.50 gas prices???????? Must be nice. We have Commies running this state.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:00 PM   #20
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I could see a Tonawanda assembled LT5 making its way into the Camaro at some point, whether it's a Z28 or an updated ZL1. The hand assembled LT5 will almost definitely remain in the Corvette only. I really think the DOHC LT7 will be the engine that goes in the Z28 and maybe replaces the LT1 in the Grand Sport. Then the LT4 in the ZL1 gets replaced with the LT5 during a mid cycle refresh......maybe right after the new GT500 is released.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:04 PM   #21
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I could see a Tonawanda assembled LT5 making its way into the Camaro at some point, whether it's a Z28 or an updated ZL1. The hand assembled LT5 will almost definitely remain in the Corvette only. I really think the DOHC LT7 will be the engine that goes in the Z28 and maybe replaces the LT1 in the Grand Sport. Then the LT4 in the ZL1 gets replaced with the LT5 during a mid cycle refresh......maybe right after the new GT500 is released.
I hope you're right
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:12 PM   #22
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The LT5 will never be in a Camaro...Why? They won't put the same engine that's in the halo car (ZR1) into the Camaro, nor will they change engines halfway through a run.

When 7th Generation Camaros come out, there will be a new "LT4" that the ZL1 (Or whatever they call it) option will get. The LT5 will never be dropped into a Camaro and if it is, it'll be a Z28. That said, the LT5 is what GM should have made from the GET GO for the Z06/ZL1 and figured out a high tech option for a ZR1. I Hope that for C8 Corvettes and Gen 7 Camaros they step up the game. (Dual Clutches, Flat planes, twin turbos, and the like).

Now a Gen 7 Camaro may save a lot of similarities with the LT5, like hopefully a sizable blower and power numbers, but it'll be like the LS9 to LT4.

GM hasn't changed engines in their highest performance models half way through a run in a long time (Since the LS2 to LS3 switch in the 08 Vettes). And with their new save-every-cent-on-performance plan they have (AKA dropping the same LT4 and LT1 engine into every single Camaro/Corvette/CTS-V), they're not going to start doing it now.
This is why I speculate 2020. It’s obvious Chevy isn’t into building niche vehicles as today’s ZR1 is much more mainstream and commercial this generation vs the C6. GM is in money making mode now, and luxury and big horsepower sell. They have found their sales niche and no longer play exclusivity with the Corvette and Camaro lines as separate development cost unnecessary monies. A lesson they learned with the LSA development in the gen 5 and the financial troubles GM experienced during the bailout and following years. So... by 2020 the Corvette ZR1 will likely be out of production. The Vette will have shifted to mid engine. Perfect time for the LT5 to hit the Camaro in a Z28 config. Or else they built an LT5 for nothing as it won’t be powering the base configuration Vette until performance variants arrive years down the line.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:16 PM   #23
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I could see a Tonawanda assembled LT5 making its way into the Camaro at some point, whether it's a Z28 or an updated ZL1. The hand assembled LT5 will almost definitely remain in the Corvette only. I really think the DOHC LT7 will be the engine that goes in the Z28 and maybe replaces the LT1 in the Grand Sport. Then the LT4 in the ZL1 gets replaced with the LT5 during a mid cycle refresh......maybe right after the new GT500 is released.
Nearly every vehicle today is forced induction. I highly doubt we will see performance NA in any mass produced American car ever again. It just doesn’t make sense fuel, emissions, and power wise.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:30 PM   #24
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This is why I speculate 2020. It’s obvious Chevy isn’t into building niche vehicles as today’s ZR1 is much more mainstream and commercial this generation vs the C6. GM is in money making mode now, and luxury and big horsepower sell. They have found their sales niche and no longer play exclusivity with the Corvette and Camaro lines as separate development cost unnecessary monies. A lesson they learned with the LSA development in the gen 5 and the financial troubles GM experienced during the bailout and following years. So... by 2020 the Corvette ZR1 will likely be out of production. The Vette will have shifted to mid engine. Perfect time for the LT5 to hit the Camaro in a Z28 config. Or else they built an LT5 for nothing as it won’t be powering the base configuration Vette until performance variants arrive years down the line.
Like I said, I highly doubt that GM will update a current performance line up with a new engine/new engines. They haven't done it since the LS2>LS3 and it was a different animal back then and before then. The engines like the LT4 have ridiculous amounts of testing and R&D behind them and they don't just replace them because a Hellcat beats it. Plus they're expensive, and I imagine the LT5 will be nothing short of $25-30k. The LS9 used to be $36k, not sure what it is now.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:31 PM   #25
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well, just saw a picture of what the ZL1 corvette will be like. Very nice. I like the LT5 motor description. I would not trade in my ZL1 1LE for it though.
I think waiting a couple of years will let Chevy work out what car will have what motor and if something really is trick I would add it to my garage.

Comments on Millenials is hilarious. I thought they all lived in their parents basements or in a Tiny House, and drove hyundais or used Uber
Seriously, very few of them make salaries to buy the cars mentioned here.

Anyway, stopped next to a Dodge Demon two days ago. Did not know what it was but when reading an article I recognized the side emblem on the car. At the time I thought it was something the owner had done himself.

Even though the muscle cars we grew up with are still very nostalgic and cool, the new ones blow them away with performance.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:37 PM   #26
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The LT5 will eventually make it into the Camaro. May or may not be supercharged. Look at the Z06 and the ZL1 with the LT4.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:41 PM   #27
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Nearly every vehicle today is forced induction. I highly doubt we will see performance NA in any mass produced American car ever again. It just doesn’t make sense fuel, emissions, and power wise.
Actually a very low percentage of vehicles are forced induction. Even the majority of performance cars and trucks are still NA. Going to DOHC allows for higher revving engines that can make the big horsepower out of smaller displacement engines, which is what Ford has been doing for years now. I really hope GM doesn't go smaller with the LT7, because there is nothing like the low end grunt of a larger displacement engine. I'd be perfectly fine with making more power by increasing the rev range of the 6.2, so we have both low end grunt and high revving horsepower.
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:08 PM   #28
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possibly. I suspect that next generation will be full electric or hybrid, with only non-street intended models gasoline. My thoughts are in 10 years time the electrics will be faster and lighter.
That day will come but seeing how bad Tesla Motors Is doing it will be longer then 10 years I’m thinking.
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