[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I don't even know WTF these Mustang cheerleaders are talking about anymore. Apparently the Mustang was designed to beat M3s and Porsches but they got slower with the S550 because it was only designed to improve upon the S197 and offer a marginal increase in performance even tho it lost performance.

Where was it said the S550 was benchmarked against the M3? Only the Boss 302 was directly developed to compete with the M3.

The comment was that the S550 was developed with performance goals of BMW's and Porsches, they didn't name specific models.

The HANDLING was the goal to be increased, not necessarily quarter mile performance. Drag racing was not the primary performance metric that the S550 was designed to improve on.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

And the Camaro was benchmarking the Mustang yet it got faster than the Mustang in the 6th Gen while the Mustang lagged behind and is now catching up to the Camaro. So the Camaro was chasing something it was already ahead of I guess. And the GT350 was chasing the 2015 Z28 for what reason I don't know since that was the last year of the 5th Gen body style.

It was also benchmarking against the C7 Z51 and a Porsche 911 variant, not just the Z/28..but why shouldn't they test against the Z/28 considering it was as good as it was.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

And the majority of people who buy Mustangs aren't buying them to have fast cars...good thing I guess.

They buy the cars that make them happy. A lot of them are Ford loyal, others dislike the Camaro/Challenger, etc. They have their reasons.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

That about sums up the typical Mustang nonsense I've been reading. The sad part is, the guys on M6G actually are a lot smarter than the ones that stray over here. Comparing what they say to what these guys say I'd rather be over there discussing this stuff with them.

Feel free to go over there, I've never been a member there because I don't prefer Mustangs or ever intend to own one. I appreciate their history though.

And as for the Mustang guys that are here..I've not seen them have a meltdown and start insulting people based on their financial ability to afford a car, their intelligence level or other personal attacks.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

COPO.

Apparently you've been too busy nut swinging to see the Cobra Jet..which by the way GM chased after Ford with considering the Cobra Jet came back in 2008 and GM was...where?

The Camaro was...where?

The COPO was..where?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ter-mile-video

[Speedofsound]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Where was it said the S550 was benchmarked against the M3? Only the Boss 302 was directly developed to compete with the M3.

The comment was that the S550 was developed with performance goals of BMW's and Porsches, they didn't name specific models.

The HANDLING was the goal to be increased, not necessarily quarter mile performance. Drag racing was not the primary performance metric that the S550 was designed to improve on.





It was also benchmarking against the C7 Z51 and a Porsche 911 variant, not just the Z/28..but why shouldn't they test against the Z/28 considering it was as good as it was.



They buy the cars that make them happy. A lot of them are Ford loyal, others dislike the Camaro/Challenger, etc. They have their reasons.




Feel free to go over there, I've never been a member there because I don't prefer Mustangs or ever intend to own one. I appreciate their history though.

And as for the Mustang guys that are here..I've not seen them have a meltdown and start insulting people based on their financial ability to afford a car, their intelligence level or other personal attacks.

nailed it! I'm not on either side and I thought that was kinda...immature

[Speedofsound]

Looks like 11.8 at 119 was there fastest pass

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

Looks like 11.8 at 119 was there fastest pass

Let’s not over hype now, It was almost 11.9 at 11.89. Considering the mods, not much better then there stock run.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

Let’s not over hype now, It was almost 11.9 at 11.89. Considering the mods, not much better then there stock run.

A resonator delete only sheds about 20lbs off the car, it doesn't free up any exhaust.

It's on lowering springs, so there is that.

The only "true" mods were the wheels and tires, which gained it around a tenth and a half and nearly 3 MPH.

That's actually pretty respectable given it's still stock tuned and no weight reduction beyond the wheels/tires.

Also, are we now going to round to the nearest full tenth?

[ULTRAZLS1]

Slightly better trap than the Camaro for the conditions. Slightly slower ET. Considering both on drag pack etc I have personal experience.

From looking at the slip it looks like yet again torque matters. It’s not getting off the line like the Lt1. The 60 ft was down a tenth from what I would expect on those tires. I can’t imagine them not having decent prep and all day to run and not 60 better than that. Those tires are excellent I had them

But it’s impossible to compare different tracks even correcting for weather.

Drivers race. Car is impressive

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

A resonator delete only sheds about 20lbs off the car, it doesn't free up any exhaust.

It's on lowering springs, so there is that.

The only "true" mods were the wheels and tires, which gained it around a tenth and a half and nearly 3 MPH.

That's actually pretty respectable given it's still stock tuned and no weight reduction beyond the wheels/tires.

Also, are we now going to round to the nearest full tenth?

The lowering springs will add some mph. I’m doing that next.

[SpeedIsLife]

I can't help but wonder if a slightly higher stall would help the Mustang in this case..say..2,700ish..

That might help pull that 60' down a tenth and a half or so.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

I can't help but wonder if a slightly higher stall would help the Mustang in this case..say..2,700ish..

That might help pull that 60' down a tenth and a half or so.

A stall will help them a lot for sure.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Where was it said the S550 was benchmarked against the M3? Only the Boss 302 was directly developed to compete with the M3.

Where did I ever talk about the BOSS 302? And why do you keep deflecting the talk towards the BOSS 302 whenever I talk about the GT?

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

The comment was that the S550 was developed with performance goals of BMW's and Porsches, they didn't name specific models.

Then why was the 15-17 GT slower than the S197?

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

The HANDLING was the goal to be increased, not necessarily quarter mile performance. Drag racing was not the primary performance metric that the S550 was designed to improve on.

Then why was the GT incapable of beating the V6 1LE on some road courses? Why was the standard SS beating the GTPP? Why was the SS 1LE beating the GT350 and keeping up with the GT350R? Why does Ford not have anything to beat the ZL1? If handling is increased THAT much, why is the GT like a 0.83-0.89 on the skidpad which was less than the 5th Gen SS?

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

It was also benchmarking against the C7 Z51 and a Porsche 911 variant, not just the Z/28..but why shouldn't they test against the Z/28 considering it was as good as it was.

So you're saying the GT was testing the C7 Z51 or the GT350? Do you think the GT350 can beat a Z51 C7 in cornering?

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

They buy the cars that make them happy. A lot of them are Ford loyal, others dislike the Camaro/Challenger, etc. They have their reasons.

Then why did Ford even have to up the ante with the Coyote engine in the first place? Why did they spend all this money on the 18 refresh designing it to outperform the 15-17 considerably? Why are the Mustang guys so upset about the 15-17 GT and so happy about the 18? And why are you on here arguing and talking and defending the performance of this car if performance isn't a major thing? And furthermore, why would Ford be putting an emphasis on cornering (like you said) and chasing after the performance of M3s and Porsches if it wasn't that important? Which is it?

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Feel free to go over there, I've never been a member there because I don't prefer Mustangs or ever intend to own one. I appreciate their history though.

And as for the Mustang guys that are here..I've not seen them have a meltdown and start insulting people based on their financial ability to afford a car, their intelligence level or other personal attacks.

Calm down cupcake, nobody is attacking you. I'll say what I want. Like I said before, they don't hold back a thing and neither do I. And sorry but there is no safe space on the internet for you so deal with it.

[SpeedIsLife]

Apparently Beefcake Racing just went 11.3 @ 123 MPH with their A10 GT. wheel/tire, corsa exhaust and tune.

Now they teased about putting a mounting point in the truck for a spray bottle, no word if the fast pass was on smack.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Apparently you've been too busy nut swinging to see the Cobra Jet..which by the way GM chased after Ford with considering the Cobra Jet came back in 2008 and GM was...where?

The Camaro was...where?

The COPO was..where?

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ter-mile-video

Well in 08 the Camaro was not being produced. LOL!! So when will it be released?

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

nailed it! I'm not on either side and I thought that was kinda...immature

Well if I hurt your feelings then you'll just have to figure out a way to get over it.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Apparently Beefcake Racing just went 11.3 @ 123 MPH with their A10 GT. wheel/tire, corsa exhaust and tune.

Now they teased about putting a mounting point in the truck for a spray bottle, no word if the fast pass was on smack.

That was with a 100 shot. Also filter and aluminum DS.

Funny thing we actually have a 6gen going 7.3 1/8 with just those mods (tune cai tire axleback)for real lol