[Speedofsound]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

I can't believe he said huge blower.lmao! That thing is an inneffient toaster oven.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

I can't believe he said huge blower.lmao! That thing is an inneffient toaster oven.

The 03-04 Cobra used a 1.8 liter blower which was a pretty big size for a factory setup on the 4.6 liter engine at that time period. Look at it like this, the 6.2 liter ZL1 is using a 1.7 liter blower and it makes 650 hp and gets instant boost at the slightest touch of the throttle. Granted it was revised but still. For the record, the stock Eaton blowers with porting and boltons was propelling those engines to make upper 400s to lower 500s and maxing around 13-15 psi boost. Most OEM blower setups max around that same boost.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Snowblind

This really explains alot.

When I cross the line in just over 11 seconds (with light bolt-ons) and I let off the gas (falls on it's face) I can see the 5.0 in my rear view mirror catch up really fast (almost like it hit a warp drive powerband). Thank you for your intellectual insight.

Ive had the same experience before as well.

It all adds up now.

[FastCarFanBoy]

congratulations on the times they are great.

someday maybe a bolt-on 5.0 will go low 11's too. 10's is probably impossible though due to the lack of low end torque.

[FATTEMUNK]

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

I can't believe he said huge blower.lmao! That thing is an inneffient toaster oven.

Isn't that the argument that you Ford guys use? The GT350 is better than the LT4 powered cars because it has a "huge" blower? But now the 1.8 is tiny compared to the 1.7? You guys need to get your bs together...

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

I can't believe he said huge blower.lmao! That thing is an inneffient toaster oven.

Seriously

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The 03-04 Cobra used a 1.8 liter blower which was a pretty big size for a factory setup on the 4.6 liter engine at that time period. Look at it like this, the 6.2 liter ZL1 is using a 1.7 liter blower and it makes 650 hp and gets instant boost at the slightest touch of the throttle. Granted it was revised but still. For the record, the stock Eaton blowers with porting and boltons was propelling those engines to make upper 400s to lower 500s and maxing around 13-15 psi boost. Most OEM blower setups max around that same boost.

Huge compared to the 1.5L blower strapped to the 3.8L supercoupe, or any variety of 3.8L chevy engine? Come one now, you can’t be serious here, it’s EXACTLY the same ratio used. 1.8/4.6= 0.39 compared to 1.5/3.8=0.39

Originally Posted by FATTEMUNK

Isn't that the argument that you Ford guys use? The GT350 is better than the LT4 powered cars because it has a "huge" blower? But now the 1.8 is tiny compared to the 1.7? You guys need to get your bs together...

GT350 has no blower…and no-one uses that argument. The 03-04 cobra killed it because it was fast as hell (for the time) and was easily upgradeable. We all could be so lucky as to have the amount of residual value as the 03-04 cobra on our vehicles. And the fact that Ford has used blowers on their cars in no way diminishes their performance….else you would have to do the same to the ZL1. It’s a total BS argument. Horsepower is Horsepower.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The 03-04 Cobra used a 1.8 liter blower which was a pretty big size for a factory setup on the 4.6 liter engine at that time period. Look at it like this, the 6.2 liter ZL1 is using a 1.7 liter blower and it makes 650 hp and gets instant boost at the slightest touch of the throttle. Granted it was revised but still. For the record, the stock Eaton blowers with porting and boltons was propelling those engines to make upper 400s to lower 500s and maxing around 13-15 psi boost. Most OEM blower setups max around that same boost.

The 03/04 Cobras were amazing machines, the 4.6 motors were bullet proof, so easy to mod. IMO it is still Fords best vehicle to date regardless of track times. The car was FUN!

[Speedofsound]

Comparing a 90s/early 2000s blower to a similar sized blower 20 years later. Lol

Like comparing a similar size motor from 20years ago to today.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by FATTEMUNK

Isn't that the argument that you Ford guys use? The GT350 is better than the LT4 powered cars because it has a "huge" blower? But now the 1.8 is tiny compared to the 1.7? You guys need to get your bs together...

Well played sir. Well played indeed...

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by newmoon

The 03/04 Cobras were amazing machines, the 4.6 motors were bullet proof, so easy to mod. IMO it is still Fords best vehicle to date regardless of track times. The car was FUN!

I never said anything negative about the Termi. My disgust is towards the lame-ass GT.

[Speedofsound]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I never said anything negative about the Termi. My disgust is towards the lame-ass GT.

You need to talk to someone about you anger.

[2011shelby]

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

You need to talk to someone about you anger.

He’ s angry because the Mustang is only 3-4 tenths slower than his ZL1 with nearly 200 less hp.

Funny stuff he posts.

[Speedofsound]

His Zl1 run 11.6?

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Speedofsound

You need to talk to someone about you anger.

Says the guy getting pissy about the GT being a POS.

Originally Posted by 2011shelby

He’ s angry because the Mustang is only 3-4 tenths slower than his ZL1 with nearly 200 less hp.

Funny stuff he posts.

The 17 ZL1 tested a best of 11.4 when equipped with the A10. The Mustang so far has only been tested by LMR. Lets see what it runs in the hands of someone other than a Mustang shop who isn't afraid to post all the details of all the runs they did. At 12 flat that is 6 tenths slower. That POS would have to be well into the 11s just to be 3-4 seconds slower. And even if it was 3-4 seconds slower that is still a huge gap.

But you wanna know what else is funny? The fact that if it is a 12 flat it is faster than the GT350 despite costing less and having much less power. My ZL1 is only 3-4 tenths faster than the GT (according to you) with a 200 hp advantage but the GT350 is 2 tenths slower than the GT despite having a 61 hp advantage. Explain that Ford shit. Oh wait, I just did...Ford.