[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Was 40 more without the cool down/ unrealistic cold pull that added 10 hp.

Different day and different drivetrain. 15 more than expected is nothing

the 389 pass the car was at 220...unrealistically hot and the ECU would pull timing (S197 ECU pilled timing over 205) 180deg for the 400 pull while cooler than normal operating temp is above where the ECU would be adding timing or fuel.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Shouldn't one expect the 2018 auto to put down more than 25hp more than a 2015-17 auto GT? Engine is rated 25hp more, but there is probably also less power loss to the wheels.

nobody knows the efficiency difference between the A10 and 6r80 regardless you are not going to put down more than 25whp when you only gained 25 crank..that would require a transmision that adds power....the A10 ain't that good

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

nobody knows the efficiency difference between the A10 and 6r80 regardless you are not going to put down more than 25whp when you only gained 25 crank..that would require a transmision that adds power....the A10 ain't that good

If the gt auto 6 speed looses 15% from engine to wheels, and the new gt 10 speed only looses 12%, then yes you can gain over the hp rating difference between the two. My guess the 10 speed is more efficient, that’s why it will be much better then the 25hp gain over the 15-17 gt.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

nobody knows the efficiency difference between the A10 and 6r80 regardless you are not going to put down more than 25whp when you only gained 25 crank..that would require a transmision that adds power....the A10 ain't that good

On top of different drivetrain it wasn’t even the same day

More ass wiping material

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

the 389 pass the car was at 220...unrealistically hot and the ECU would pull timing (S197 ECU pilled timing over 205) 180deg for the 400 pull while cooler than normal operating temp is above where the ECU would be adding timing or fuel.

Every car I’ve had dyno about 10 hp more on cool down pull. Think what you want

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

LT-1 Vettes were 13.9. Maybe your thinking of the LT4 , but who knows what your thinking?

LT-1 F-bodies were low 14's and beat by the VR4

Cool the Nismo went 13.3(Havent seen that instrumented test and no other Mag could duplicate) ...cooler is the fact that in several of those years where Nismo boi's were clowning Mustangs with their 13.3-13.6 cars the Mustang was faster than the Camaro.

who tested a 392 Challenger and got low 12's?

how much farther are we going to go of topic in pursuit of your ramblings?

96 Corvette GS...13.7
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...e-grand-sport/

C4 LT1 Corvette...13.6
http://fastestlaps.com/models/chevrolet-corvette-lt1

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...spec-sheet.pdf

97 Z28...13.9
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...-z28-pace-car/

96 Z28...13.8
https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...g-strip-page-2

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Cool the Nismo went 13.3(Havent seen that instrumented test and no other Mag could duplicate)

Wrong again. Many sources were reporting low to mid 13s in the 370Z.

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

cooler is the fact that in several of those years where Nismo boi's were clowning Mustangs with their 13.3-13.6 cars the Mustang was faster than the Camaro.

At least I can admit that the GT was faster than the SS from 11-14. You're delusional, arrogant, and too ignorant to admit that the GT has been getting it's ass kicked for a long time. When the GT was faster than the Camaro, it was by 2 tenths which makes it a driver's race. Any other time since 1994 the GT against any V8 Camaro was a complete and utter failure. When the Z28s were running mid-high 13s to low 14s in the mid 90s the GT was running 15s. Then when the New Edge finally got into the low 14s in 1999 with that PI 2V garbage the V8 Camaros were running mid 13s. When the SS came back in 2010 it was a 13 flat to the GT's mid-high 13 in that 3V garbage. The Coyote came back and it was barely ahead. The the Camaro upped the ante again and was beating the GT by nearly a full second for the past 2 years. Point is in the few years that the GT was faster it was by a small margin. And that was for only 4 years. Yet the vast majority of the past 2 decades the Camaro has been completely obliterating the GT.

Look at this. 2001 Mustang GT...14.7 quarter mile
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...rd-mustang-gt/

2002 Honda Accord EX coupe...14.5 quarter mile
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-v-6-road-test

How the hell is a Honda Accord faster than a Mustang GT in the same years?? LOL!!

[Speedofsound]

I didnt think this thread was about mid 90s supras or early 2000s GTs and accords...SMH.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

96 Corvette GS...13.7
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...e-grand-sport/ That's an LT4 not an Lt-1

C4 LT1 Corvette...13.6
http://fastestlaps.com/models/chevrolet-corvette-lt1who the hell is fasterlaps? link to their instrumented test?

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...spec-sheet.pdf did C&D instrument test or is this postage stamp al they have? R&T went 14.1 in their instrument test.

97 Z28...13.9
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...-z28-pace-car/thats a blueprinted engine with a K&N filter...lulz

96 Z28...13.8
https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...g-strip-page-2It's an SS not a standard LT-1 Z28 the equivalent of me saying the GT350 is a representation of the GT

back on topic shall we?

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

back on topic shall we?

Why? Can't admit that you're wrong? LOL! Like I said before, the GT should have been doing this when the S550 came out in 2015. But Ford built it cheap and put all their eggs in the GT350 basket which left the GT slower than the S197 was. And even the GT350 was a failure. The 6th Gen Camaros came out and wiped the floor with the Mustangs. And now Ford is behind and stuck playing catch up. So don't expect people to be impressed with a 12 flat. When more tests come out then the GT might prove to be competitive. Until then although running a 12 flat is impressive I can't say I'm impressed with the GT considering it finally now is doing something.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Wrong again. Many sources were reporting low to mid 13s in the 370Z.



At least I can admit that the GT was faster than the SS from 11-14. You're delusional, arrogant, and too ignorant to admit that the GT has been getting it's ass kicked for a long timeits been 2 model years...the Camaro was getting beat or just plain didnt exist becuase it was such a POS for 10 of the previous 11 years. . When the GT was faster than the Camaro, it was by 2 tenths which makes it a driver's race. Any other time since 1994because '85-93 the Mustang was faster the GT against any V8 Camaro was a complete and utter failure. When the Z28s were running mid-high 13s to low 14s in the mid 90s the GT was running 15s. Then when the New Edge finally got into the low 14s in 1999 with that PI 2V garbage the V8 Camaros were running mid 13s. When the SS came back in 2010 it was a 13 flat to the GT's mid-high 13 in that 3V garbage. The Coyote came back and it was barely ahead. The the Camaro upped the ante again and was beating the GT by nearly a full second for the past 2 years. Point is in the few years that the GT was faster it was by a small margin. And that was for only 4 years. Yet the vast majority of the past 2 decades the Camaro has been completely obliterating the GT.its a back and forth battle
Look at this. 2001 Mustang GT...14.7 quarter mile
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...rd-mustang-gt/

2002 Honda Accord EX coupe...14.5 quarter mile
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-v-6-road-test

How the hell is a Honda Accord faster than a Mustang GT in the same years?? LOL!!early mod motors were turds thats how

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[kttxz06]

I feel like I'm watching old episodes of The Golden Girls.

[BlaqWhole]

Name one year from 1994 to now (besides 2011-2014) where the Mustang GT was faster than any V8 Camaro of the same year when the Camaro was in production.

And back it up with a link.

[Speedofsound]

Just arguing for sake arguing. This is about current 6gen camaro and 6gen mustang.

Yea we know Ford took a big leap towards mod motor technology that only paid dividends a couple times until 2011. Can we move on?