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Old 10-13-2017, 04:47 PM   #1
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Who has done their track alignment and trans fluid top off for track days?

Was about to get into the track season out here in AZ and Im prepping the car with clear bra and track alignment and trans fluid top off. Was wondering how many track guys we have who have done the alignment and wanted to ask what it does to tire life overall. I am going to be doing 6 track days over the next 6-7 months and wanted the car prepped but its still a daily driver. Wondering if I should drive it with track alignment or is that going to butcher the tires. Id hate to have to go back and fourth to the dealership after every track day. Any input would be great. Thanks guys !!
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:56 PM   #2
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That will straight up murder your tires leaving the track alignment and DDing.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:15 PM   #3
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Being a newb on all this...what are the effects on the tires leaving them OEM & going to the track??

I honestly don't know the details to adjust when arriving / leaving & ignorant on what particulars are needed & how to properly get there. It will be next year before I can even get there due to work / logistics, so no fire but am curious to how you regulars approach.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:02 PM   #4
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Being a newb on all this...what are the effects on the tires leaving them OEM & going to the track??

I honestly don't know the details to adjust when arriving / leaving & ignorant on what particulars are needed & how to properly get there. It will be next year before I can even get there due to work / logistics, so no fire but am curious to how you regulars approach.

Having stock alignment means you might be leaving some speed on the table during cornering. Honestly, if you're brand new to this, I wouldn't even worry about car setup the first couple times you go. Just make sure your car is in good shape, change the engine oil afterwards, and have fun. You'll learn a lot from a lot of different people at the track.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:44 PM   #5
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I think Im going to leave it on standard alignment specs initially. The manual says to do track setting for adding cornering capabilities. I did 24 track days on oem alignment in an IS-F, only issue is some sidewall damage at AutoClub because of the sustained turning at 140 mph on the "roval". Other than that it was fine. I wasnt chasing the alignment because I knew it was going to destroy my tires.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:07 AM   #6
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I think Im going to leave it on standard alignment specs initially. The manual says to do track setting for adding cornering capabilities. I did 24 track days on oem alignment in an IS-F, only issue is some sidewall damage at AutoClub because of the sustained turning at 140 mph on the "roval". Other than that it was fine. I wasnt chasing the alignment because I knew it was going to destroy my tires.
I have a bit of roll over sidewall wear on the ZL1 from a day on COTA. I think, but I'm not positive, it was because I didn't start with high enough wheel pressure. Manual says 44lbs, right? I didn't any air so it took a while to warm up officially.
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:17 PM   #7
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That will straight up murder your tires leaving the track alignment and DDing.
I am wearing the outside of the tires faster than the inside using the factory alignment. Thought the additional camber would help even it out. Have you noticed faster wear with the track alignment?
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:43 PM   #8
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I am wearing the outside of the tires faster than the inside using the factory alignment. Thought the additional camber would help even it out. Have you noticed faster wear with the track alignment?
The "track" alignment from GM is -2.0 degrees camber on the fronts on the ZL1. That will chew up the inside of your tires pretty quickly putting DD mileage on the car.

Alignments can go out of wack for many reasons. If you're seeing excessive wear on the outside, I'd get the alignment checked to make sure everything is copacetic, and if it is, adjust camber in a little bit to see if that helps. I just wouldn't take it all the way to -2.0.
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:53 PM   #9
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The "track" alignment from GM is -2.0 degrees camber on the fronts on the ZL1. That will chew up the inside of your tires pretty quickly putting DD mileage on the car.

Alignments can go out of wack for many reasons. If you're seeing excessive wear on the outside, I'd get the alignment checked to make sure everything is copacetic, and if it is, adjust camber in a little bit to see if that helps. I just wouldn't take it all the way to -2.0.
No, if you track the car... you’ll see excessive wear on the outer 1/3 of the tire. These tires don’t last long period, so any DD duties will offset the outer wear. Target 2.0 minimum for track driving. Most SS 1LE guys that are doing track alignments max front camber (-2.2-2.6) to promote good wear on track (and minimize understeer).
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:39 PM   #10
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No, if you track the car... you’ll see excessive wear on the outer 1/3 of the tire. These tires don’t last long period, so any DD duties will offset the outer wear. Target 2.0 minimum for track driving. Most SS 1LE guys that are doing track alignments max front camber (-2.2-2.6) to promote good wear on track (and minimize understeer).
If you only track your car, yes. I was under the impression he was asking about leaving the track alignment for daily driving "DD" duties, which would be -2.0 camber driving in a straight line down the highway every day, 20-30 miles at a time. That would cause excessive inner tire wear, but maybe I misunderstood his question.
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:01 PM   #11
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:29 PM   #12
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I've tracked my car 3 times now this year plus two autocross days. I've also put nearly 4,000 miles on it since February. I run the stock alignment and I'm super pleased with the tire wear. I'm wearing evenly and consistently across all tires. Unless you are tracking the car a bunch I wouldn't worry about the track alignment. Also, make sure you take the tires down to 28psi for a road course per the manual. And you mentions topping off the trans fluid...there's nothing needed there. That's a mistake in the manual that was cleared up later.
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