[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

I'm starting to think we may not see a stock 10 second pass. Best I've seen with a stock ZL1 on drag radials in a great DA was 11.13

I disagree. I ran an 11.13 at 127.2 bone stock on the stock rubber while screwing up and deep staging. If I hadn't deep staged, it would've at least been an 11.0X, maybe even a 10.9X. The deep stage gave me a 1.81 60' even though the launch felt better than my 1.72 60' I had earlier in the day and ran an 11.17 at 125.9. Not only would my 60' have been better, but my MPH would've been higher (guessing 128) had I not deep staged. This was in decent DA with good track prep. Better DA and equal track prep should definitely put me in the 10s if I can do my part. It's a guarantee I'll never deep stage again. I'll back up for sure if I ever have that accident again.

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Something has to be limiting the cars ability to 60 foot hard, and I don't think it's the same torque management that preserves the transmission during shifts. The car has the low end torque that it should be able to get at least a 1.6x 60 foot, but nobody has been able to do so, yet the Hellcats with stock tuning are able to do that repeatedly on drag radials. I think something else is going on in addition to the typical tm that protects the trannys

If drag radials improve grip over the stock Goodyears like everyone, including myself, believe they will, I'm pretty certain I can turn my 1.72 60' into a 1.6 or better.

[IneedAZ]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

If drag radials improve grip over the stock Goodyears like everyone, including myself, believe they will, I'm pretty certain I can turn my 1.72 60' into a 1.6 or better.

Hope u are right

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

I disagree. I ran an 11.13 at 127.2 bone stock on the stock rubber while screwing up and deep staging. If I hadn't deep staged, it would've at least been an 11.0X, maybe even a 10.9X. The deep stage gave me a 1.81 60' even though the launch felt better than my 1.72 60' I had earlier in the day and ran an 11.17 at 125.9. Not only would my 60' have been better, but my MPH would've been higher (guessing 128) had I not deep staged. This was in decent DA with good track prep. Better DA and equal track prep should definitely put me in the 10s if I can do my part. It's a guarantee I'll never deep stage again. I'll back up for sure if I ever have that accident again.


If drag radials improve grip over the stock Goodyears like everyone, including myself, believe they will, I'm pretty certain I can turn my 1.72 60' into a 1.6 or better.

11.17 is very very respectable.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

I disagree. I ran an 11.13 at 127.2 bone stock on the stock rubber while screwing up and deep staging. If I hadn't deep staged, it would've at least been an 11.0X, maybe even a 10.9X. The deep stage gave me a 1.81 60' even though the launch felt better than my 1.72 60' I had earlier in the day and ran an 11.17 at 125.9. Not only would my 60' have been better, but my MPH would've been higher (guessing 128) had I not deep staged. This was in decent DA with good track prep. Better DA and equal track prep should definitely put me in the 10s if I can do my part. It's a guarantee I'll never deep stage again. I'll back up for sure if I ever have that accident again.


If drag radials improve grip over the stock Goodyears like everyone, including myself, believe they will, I'm pretty certain I can turn my 1.72 60' into a 1.6 or better.

I really hope you're right. I'll be the first to break out the pom poms and cheer. Like Speedy said, the mph is there. The problem seems to lie at the beginning of the pass, but once she gets moving, she really picks up steam. The mph I've been seeing is certainly comparable to the best I've seen from stock Hellcats (128-129-130 mph).

[Speedy1975]

17CamaroZL1 knowa what he's doing and I'm sure he'll hit 10s in good weather. I think just barely though on stock setup........some tuning will change things big time I think.

[Blackdevil77]

Agreed. 17CamaroZL1, looking forward to your next visit to the strip

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by IneedAZ

Hope u are right

I'm really confident it'll happen, but it will take track prep, good DA, and me not screwing up. Lol

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

11.17 is very very respectable.

Thanks! The 11.17 is more respectable to me than my 11.13 since I did it in more than twice the DA. 1730 vs 870. More proof of how bad the deep stage hurt me.

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

I really hope you're right. I'll be the first to break out the pom poms and cheer. Like Speedy said, the mph is there. The problem seems to lie at the beginning of the pass, but once she gets moving, she really picks up steam. The mph I've been seeing is certainly comparable to the best I've seen from stock Hellcats (128-129-130 mph).

Lol!! You've painted a really nice picture with the pom poms. Lol! I agree, that there's more to be gained early in the run with a tune, when there's plenty of grip, but so far I've not seen a need for it on the stock tires at my local track, as I lightly spin almost all through 1st and 2nd gears. Now at Bowling Green, or with a better tire, it would be a different story. Bowling Green AND a better tire, it would really be on with more available torque early on.

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

17CamaroZL1 knows what he's doing and I'm sure he'll hit 10s in good weather. I think just barely though on stock setup........some tuning will change things big time I think.

Thanks for the compliment! I think you're spot on.

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Agreed. 17CamaroZL1, looking forward to your next visit to the strip

I'm looking forward to it as well. I'll definitely be running October 22nd, weather permitting, but I'm looking more forward to getting back to Bowling Green sometime this fall. We have a private track rental at London the 22nd. I'm optimistic about running my best times yet at London, but I really doubt I'll be anywhere close to 10s. 11.40 is my best at London so far. They've just not given me the track prep that BG has yet. I have to launch softer and I still spin a little in the first 2 gears, so I guess I'm doing good to still manage 11.4s. If the grip is the same as usual, I'll be happy to run an 11.3 and tickled pink to run anything faster.

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by Sven59

They are limiting because the rear end is not as stout as the 5th gen.

The 5th gen being stout was an understatement. The 6th gen diff can still be not as strong, but still able to handle launching the car on drag radials with close to stock power, reliably. Anybody know the limits of the new diff yet? Those guys running 9's are still on the stock diff?

[Jmueller]

https://youtu.be/aRpesvdvK9k

Hopefully the link works. Looks like someone went a 10.9. It’s at around the 5:15 mark. Someone named Justin.

[Infern0]

Holy hero run...

1.69 60'!

That was a pretty entertaining video altogether.

Why did he keep pulling so far forward in the stage - making the first set of lights turn off? Is there a strategy there?

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

The 5th gen being stout was an understatement. The 6th gen diff can still be not as strong, but still able to handle launching the car on drag radials with close to stock power, reliably. Anybody know the limits of the new diff yet? Those guys running 9's are still on the stock diff?

Totally agree. I've not heard of anyone changing the stock diff or gearing and I'm sure it's stout enough to safely run 9s without much worry.....maybe better. Only time will tell.

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by Infern0

Holy hero run...

1.69 60'!

That was a pretty entertaining video altogether.

Why did he keep pulling so far forward in the stage - making the first set of lights turn off? Is there a strategy there?

Looks like the Z was running drag radials and it definitely had the rear wing removed. Looking at his 1/8 mph and 1/4 mph, it appears he may have even lifted at the end, trying not to break out since they were running the 11.00 index.

The idea behind deep staging, is starting the 6", or whatever it is, in front of your competition, and your reaction time will be better if both vehicles leave at the same time. To run the fastest possible time and highest mph, you're better off to shallow stage, time your start to take off sooner without breaking the final beam before the green light comes on, so you end up with a few inches rolling start before the timer actually starts.

[Blackdevil77]

God those Teslas are fast. Does anybody know of the ZL1 was stock? Not much info but if it was, that was a super solid run. The mph seems like it should of been slightly higher judging by the rest of the timeslip.

[17CamaroZL1]

Pretty sure I found some info on this car. If it is indeed the same car, I'm pretty certain the driver lifted at the end of the 1/4 trying to stay 11.00 or higher. I'm pretty sure it has to be the car, since the wing was gone on both, and it sounds like both were run at Street Car Takeover Atlanta.

https://youtu.be/KzPmtAPlryI