Chevy is killing Camaro, V8 - Page 2

Dustya · 10-02-2017, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunkk

Tell any one of us that evacauted Irma and spent 11+ hours in 100 degree heat in stop and go traffic to switch to electric only plug in....

And we will laugh in your face.

You cant put two Jerry cans full of electric in your Tesla's trunk.

no but eventually there will be charge boxes... hell they are already up to something like 50k mAh power banks that can jump start your car.. The future is pretty obvious.

camaro5 · 10-02-2017, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by waterman

Zero emissions is a farce.

Electricity is produced in the US by burning jet fuel, diesel and coal or by splitting atoms.
All of the above create emissions and/or waste to charge electric vehicles.

I'm going to drive my Grandfather's Vette up the mountain this afternoon, and spiritedly burn up some dinosaurs and mastodons.

Absolutely true. Coal fired power plants emit the same or more CO2 when charging a car, as a gas burning car.

Solar is getting cheaper daily.

Get control away from greedy power companies (Yes, you FPL) who demand pollution and money, and we'll have a chance at near-zero emissions.

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Originally Posted by Gunkk

Tell any one of us that evacauted Irma and spent 11+ hours in 100 degree heat in stop and go traffic to switch to electric only plug in....

And we will laugh in your face.

You cant put two Jerry cans full of electric in your Tesla's trunk.

I hear that.

Solar panels on our homes could alleviate some of the evacuation needs.

Won't stop storm surge though.

My generator saved me from Irma, and I'm getting a big-ass Generac whole house one.

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Originally Posted by CamaroBody

Camaro and Corvette will go hybrid. Another reason I bought my car and not some Tesla.

Gas saving will justify the price increase for hybrid technology.

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Correct. The new GM LT7 is an electric motor assisted V8 engine. Coming sorta soon.

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I'll say it again - Get 'em while you can - this is the pinnacle of the gasoline engine - right now.

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avalonandl · 10-02-2017, 10:41 PM

Fake News....

Donrican · 10-02-2017, 10:46 PM

I hope they go electric for many reasons. One is that my Camaro will be even more of a collectors car. Another is how quick electric cars can be. The fastest car at the Nurburgring is electric .They handle better due to battery placement. They also pollute less. Who doesn't like to breath clean air? Less money to countries that buy Lambos with our money. No more standing in Gas stations for most people. You get home and plug it in. Yeah, yeah, sound of V8, blah, blah. The pluses of a V8 are no where near the pluses of electric. Lets evolve.

SomeGeoffGuy · 10-02-2017, 10:50 PM

I hope they start selling that many electric cars. It will assure decades of cheap gasoline! If demand goes down, so does price. Bring on the electrics!

-Geoff

gringo · 10-03-2017, 03:43 AM

What happens after a few years when the battery packs need replacing? From what I've read about it , they can be extremely expensive to replace in the cars we have out now.

I can see electrically assisted ICE's (like the current hybrids) coming to the Camaro lineup, but full electric will take a long time to find general public acceptance.

USAFS197 · 10-03-2017, 06:39 AM

I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that technology will follow the demands of the people or the need put forth. If you’re basing your judgement of electric vehicle viability upon the current technology when GM is stating that it’ll go into full production on this rollout in 2023, you’re a bit misguided.

Many advancements can and should be made in this technology to make it far more viable for everyday usage. While I for one will still yearn for a V8 powered American vehicle, all we can hope is that they will not ban vehicles with internal combustion engines like they are doing in other countries.

Bad Anvil Garage · 10-03-2017, 07:19 AM

When are the tree hugging hippies and climate goons going to admit that electric cars are actually powered by coal?

ST1LE · 10-03-2017, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by USAFS197

I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that technology will follow the demands of the people or the need put forth. If you’re basing your judgement of electric vehicle viability upon the current technology when GM is stating that it’ll go into full production on this rollout in 2023, you’re a bit misguided.

Many advancements can and should be made in this technology to make it far more viable for everyday usage. While I for one will still yearn for a V8 powered American vehicle, all we can hope is that they will not ban vehicles with internal combustion engines like they are doing in other countries.

This!

As you mentioned, many countries like France are passing legislation now making new combustion engine sales illegal in the not so distant future. It will be very helpful if we realize that America is not the center of the world anymore(hard for most I know). For GM and all other US Manufacturers to stay alive, they will have to maintain a global presence. America is far behind the game now, we will have to catch up or get left in the dark........literally.

ST1LE · 10-03-2017, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad Anvil Garage

When are the tree hugging hippies and climate goons going to admit that electric cars are actually powered by coal?

That will change too, and is currently a VERY small piece of the energy structure. Administrations change, just because the current one wants to keep people in caves mining for coal(when they don't want to) doesn't mean that will always be the case. Look to the world and for better examples, there are plenty of countries doing much better at clean energy production.

craigss50 · 10-03-2017, 07:42 AM

I am older than most here and I did not need a V8 but I wanted that sound. I did not even need a new car but when I heard that exhaust sound I knew I was going to buy it. I know electric will have instant torque but in my case not what I bought the car for. It is also the reason I bought my Harley and not a Yamaha. When you buy this type of car you want the visceral experience.

JohnCobalt · 10-03-2017, 07:42 AM

This thread is giving me severe range anxiety.

Casalino · 10-03-2017, 08:02 AM

I'm young. But i'll be damned if i was to change to electric as we move away from combustion engines. I might have to settle with an everyday electric car in the future, but i will maintain a garage full of gas powered cars and motorcycles. No electric car, no matter how fast or how efficient it is will keep me away from a loud combustion engine with a manual transmission.

TJay74 · 10-03-2017, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by waterman

Zero emissions is a farce.

Electricity is produced in the US by burning jet fuel, diesel and coal or by splitting atoms.
All of the above create emissions and/or waste to charge electric vehicles.

I'm going to drive my Grandfather's Vette up the mountain this afternoon, and spiritedly burn up some dinosaurs and mastodons.

I wouldnt say it is a farce, but if you eliminate 100 million vehicles in the USA alone from the roads that burn fuel and replace them with electric vehicles then you will make a huge dent in the emissions pollution that we currently produce.

That 100 million cars is based on the USA population being around 250 million people.

The cascade effect as this movement goes across the USA and Globally will be huge in reduction of emission pollution.

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10-02-2017, 10:46 PM	#18
Donrican Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Palm Coast Fl Posts: 87	I hope they go electric for many reasons. One is that my Camaro will be even more of a collectors car. Another is how quick electric cars can be. The fastest car at the Nurburgring is electric .They handle better due to battery placement. They also pollute less. Who doesn't like to breath clean air? Less money to countries that buy Lambos with our money. No more standing in Gas stations for most people. You get home and plug it in. Yeah, yeah, sound of V8, blah, blah. The pluses of a V8 are no where near the pluses of electric. Lets evolve. __________________ 2018 Camaro ZL1

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SomeGeoffGuy Drives: 2023 2SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,099	I hope they start selling that many electric cars. It will assure decades of cheap gasoline! If demand goes down, so does price. Bring on the electrics! -Geoff __________________ '12 2SS RS Convertible - Traded in. '16 2SS Convertible - White on white, mag-ride, NPP, nav. Sold! '23 2SS Convertible -Same as above except orange.

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USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that technology will follow the demands of the people or the need put forth. If you’re basing your judgement of electric vehicle viability upon the current technology when GM is stating that it’ll go into full production on this rollout in 2023, you’re a bit misguided. Many advancements can and should be made in this technology to make it far more viable for everyday usage. While I for one will still yearn for a V8 powered American vehicle, all we can hope is that they will not ban vehicles with internal combustion engines like they are doing in other countries. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

10-03-2017, 03:43 AM	#20
gringo Account Suspended Drives: Camaro V6 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,722	What happens after a few years when the battery packs need replacing? From what I've read about it , they can be extremely expensive to replace in the cars we have out now. I can see electrically assisted ICE's (like the current hybrids) coming to the Camaro lineup, but full electric will take a long time to find general public acceptance.

10-03-2017, 07:19 AM	#22
Bad Anvil Garage Drives: 2000 GMPPSV SS & 2017 ILE SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 547	When are the tree hugging hippies and climate goons going to admit that electric cars are actually powered by coal?

10-03-2017, 07:42 AM	#25
craigss50 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS Fifty Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Port St Lucie, Florida Posts: 966	I am older than most here and I did not need a V8 but I wanted that sound. I did not even need a new car but when I heard that exhaust sound I knew I was going to buy it. I know electric will have instant torque but in my case not what I bought the car for. It is also the reason I bought my Harley and not a Yamaha. When you buy this type of car you want the visceral experience.

10-03-2017, 07:42 AM	#26
JohnCobalt Drives: Camaro and Mazda CX3 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 181	This thread is giving me severe range anxiety.

10-03-2017, 08:02 AM	#27
Casalino Drives: 17' 1LE BLK Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: New York, New York Posts: 443	I'm young. But i'll be damned if i was to change to electric as we move away from combustion engines. I might have to settle with an everyday electric car in the future, but i will maintain a garage full of gas powered cars and motorcycles. No electric car, no matter how fast or how efficient it is will keep me away from a loud combustion engine with a manual transmission.

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