Where are the 10 second ZL1 1/4 mile passes? - Page 13

96MrBass · 08-28-2017, 08:23 PM

I love how your supposed to give one car what it needs to perform at it's best ability. Then just say well your ZL1 can have a tire to which it might not be the MOD it needs.

HAMMERHEAD15 · 08-28-2017, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 96MrBass

He's talking tenths

So a stock Hellcat on stock tires is running 11.50-11.60's and the DR only picks it up 1.5 to 2 tenths? I'm seeing guys on Hellcat.org saying they are running 10.60's stock with DR's. Of course these are the best of the best times in negative DA and super prepped track!

396ssrat · 08-28-2017, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HAMMERHEAD15

So a stock Hellcat on stock tires is running 11.50-11.60's and the DR only picks it up 1.5 to 2 tenths? I'm seeing guys on Hellcat.org saying they are running 10.60's stock with DR's. Of course these are the best of the best times in negative DA and super prepped track!

Have to be damned negative DA. They don't run 10.60's stock with tires.

96MrBass · 08-28-2017, 08:34 PM

I'm VERY interested in what these two do on the street lined up DIG racing old fashioned drag racing. Not just one pass but 5 or so runs both on equal tire.

HAMMERHEAD15 · 08-28-2017, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Have to be damned negative DA. They don't run 10.60's stock with tires.

That's what they say on Hellcat.org! I haven't witnessed it!

HAMMERHEAD15 · 08-28-2017, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 96MrBass

I'm VERY interested in what these two do on the street lined up DIG racing old fashioned drag racing. Not just one pass but 5 or so runs both on equal tire.

I ran a hellcat Charger on the street Saturday night. Not from a dig obit from a roll about 35 mph. I pulled away from him about 2 cars up to about 90 mph. We just happened upon each other. I have no idea if it was A8 or M6 stock or not. We only ran once. I would love to run one 4-5 times on DR's and I'm sure it will happen but I want to see what I can do on stock tires before I change up.

Speedy1975 · 08-28-2017, 08:59 PM

I dont know of any Hellcat on factory tires running 10.60s more like low 11s with the summer tire option. Mine came with all seasons (not summer tires) so am I to be limited to those L0L? No way Im using those at the track.

96MrBass · 08-28-2017, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HAMMERHEAD15

I ran a hellcat Charger on the street Saturday night. Not from a dig obit from a roll about 35 mph. I pulled away from him about 2 cars up to about 90 mph. We just happened upon each other. I have no idea if it was A8 or M6 stock or not. We only ran once. I would love to run one 4-5 times on DR's and I'm sure it will happen but I want to see what I can do on stock tires before I change up.

I don't blame you a bit for wanting to get your best times stock there's a lot to be said being consistent first. Charger only comes in auto pretty sure and is the quicker of the two supposedly.

HAMMERHEAD15 · 08-28-2017, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy1975

I dont know of any Hellcat on factory tires running 10.60s more like low 11s with the summer tire option. Mine came with all seasons (not summer tires) so am I to be limited to those L0L? No way Im using those at the track.

I said with DR's

Speedy1975 · 08-28-2017, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HAMMERHEAD15

I said with DR's

OK.

KyleL · 08-28-2017, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Have to be damned negative DA. They don't run 10.60's stock with tires.

those guys claiming they run 10.6 with tires must have forgot they upgraded their driveshaft and swapped their stock diff for a scat pack diff, which has 3.09 gears as opposed to the 2.62 that came with the hellcats.

Those mods with tires, great prep, and some good air will definitely see 10.6-10.8 pass.

96MrBass · 08-29-2017, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KyleL

those guys claiming they run 10.6 with tires must have forgot they upgraded their driveshaft and swapped their stock diff for a scat pack diff, which has 3.09 gears as opposed to the 2.62 that came with the hellcats.

Those mods with tires, great prep, and some good air will definitely see 10.6-10.8 pass.

Exactly but it seems that cherry picking MODS is totally different these day's lol. Are they mods they didn't touch the engine

newmoon · 08-29-2017, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Have to be damned negative DA. They don't run 10.60's stock with tires.

Maybe or maybe not. IMO any record claims should be scrutinized just as any hero runs in this forum should be as well. Its just way too easy to hide mods these days.

From what I have read and seen at VMP 10:80-11:00s is pretty standard fare for an A8 DRs only, in good conditions.

Raven87 · 08-29-2017, 06:40 AM

"Stock" is as the car came off the showroom floor from the factory.

"Modded" is ANY change (not a replacement in kind) that deviates from "Stock" specifications including tire size, tire tread design, or any other change to the car that it did not come from the factory with.

If you put OEM tires back on the car that is still a 'stock' specification vehicle. Replacement in kind is not a mod.

Period.

So, do these high hp cars benefit from a tire change? Of course. But is changing the tires to take advantage of better traction leave the car in 'Stock/As Built from the factory' configuration?

Absolutely not. Parse the words or the justification any way you want but once you change tire size and tread design, your car is no longer 'stock'.

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08-28-2017, 08:34 PM	#172
96MrBass Drives: GM Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Marydel, DE Posts: 1,321	I'm VERY interested in what these two do on the street lined up DIG racing old fashioned drag racing. Not just one pass but 5 or so runs both on equal tire. __________________ Roto- Fab Cai, SLP 1 3/4" headers, 3"X pipe, LM2 cat back, Comp Cam & AI Heads, SLP UP, RPM Tuned, GPI Intake, Vmax TB, ADM Air Scoop, 3.91 Gears, Gforce driveshaft, Braille 21#, Elite Catch Can, Pfadt Tie Rods, Diff Bushings and Trailing arms, Eibach spings & sways, BMR cradle bushings, Nt555r's.

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Raven87 C'mon- really? Drives: Looking for a ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nortwestern Ohio Posts: 1,966 View My Garage	"Stock" is as the car came off the showroom floor from the factory. "Modded" is ANY change (not a replacement in kind) that deviates from "Stock" specifications including tire size, tire tread design, or any other change to the car that it did not come from the factory with. If you put OEM tires back on the car that is still a 'stock' specification vehicle. Replacement in kind is not a mod. Period. So, do these high hp cars benefit from a tire change? Of course. But is changing the tires to take advantage of better traction leave the car in 'Stock/As Built from the factory' configuration? Absolutely not. Parse the words or the justification any way you want but once you change tire size and tread design, your car is no longer 'stock'. __________________ Steve 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE Black #3805 - SOLD

08-28-2017, 08:59 PM	#175
Speedy1975 FASTER! Drives: Challenger Hellcat, 2SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 2,244	I dont know of any Hellcat on factory tires running 10.60s more like low 11s with the summer tire option. Mine came with all seasons (not summer tires) so am I to be limited to those L0L? No way Im using those at the track.

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