[cellsafemode]

I dont agree with a lot of the common features that are reviewed in here with my own car. I still dont know why people think the slightly slanted infotainment screen is a "problem". It's way clearer to see my screen in full sunlight from basically any angle it can enter the car than any other car i've been in that has a screen. Meh. anyways here it is.

http://jalopnik.com/2017-chevrolet-c...-no-1797734847

[IMadeYouReadThis]

The 4T is an awesome ride

[Frank237]

I think that a lot of these reviews tend to parrot the same old things; "bunker" like outward view, NO backseat room, slanted info screen, etc.

[Marty McFlew]

Jalopnik is mostly anti American any car, probably just anti American anything, especially the Camaro. If they give it a good review its because they can't help it, but they will most likely pick it apart. I never waste my time reading their reviews. I have been saying for years they are FOS.

[cellsafemode]

it would be funny if it wasn't somewhat depressing that this kind of review is what we have to go by for the most part.

Like, if you think something is a negative, give me the car that you're comparing to that's better. Dont just make subjective statements with no comparison.

Backseats not usable? Is it being marketed to families? No? then who cares. If you can use them, bonus for you.

Not being able to park in the car? I park better in the 6th gen (especially thanks to the backup camera that's awesome compared to any others i've seen) than I was ever able to with the 3rd and 4th gen camaros.

Just a lot of review that seems to illustrate how the reviewer is far from the car's target demographic. Rough ride? it's not even lowered and doesn't even have the RS runflats. To me, that's really what makes a review worthwhile. Is the person reviewing it a target customer for the car? If not, why would I care what they have to say? The review isn't for soccer mom's and confused stereotypical family dads. They're not gonna get convinced that the camaro is the car for them, nor should they be. It's for people who are already shopping that segment and usually are already driving a car from that segment.

blah.

[Johnny2343]

Aren't they the ones that wrecked at a gm event??

[cellsafemode]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

Jalopnik is mostly anti American any car, probably just anti American anything, especially the Camaro. If they give it a good review its because they can't help it, but they will most likely pick it apart. I never waste my time reading their reviews. I have been saying for years they are FOS.

they are mostly anti-new car. With many of the commenters hating on anyone who can and does buy a new car.

I dont find it to be very anti-american. Not sure what part of the car one would even talk about when talking about nationality. Are we talking about where it's made? Where most of the parts are sourced? The origin of the name? The primary country the car is sold in? You can get different amounts of USA in each of those options. Car companies are global.. they dont really belong to a country except when the country runs/owns the company.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by cellsafemode

it would be funny if it wasn't somewhat depressing that this kind of review is what we have to go by for the most part.

Like, if you think something is a negative, give me the car that you're comparing to that's better. Dont just make subjective statements with no comparison.

Backseats not usable? Is it being marketed to families? No? then who cares. If you can use them, bonus for you.

Not being able to park in the car? I park better in the 6th gen (especially thanks to the backup camera that's awesome compared to any others i've seen) than I was ever able to with the 3rd and 4th gen camaros.

Just a lot of review that seems to illustrate how the reviewer is far from the car's target demographic. Rough ride? it's not even lowered and doesn't even have the RS runflats. To me, that's really what makes a review worthwhile. Is the person reviewing it a target customer for the car? If not, why would I care what they have to say? The review isn't for soccer mom's and confused stereotypical family dads. They're not gonna get convinced that the camaro is the car for them, nor should they be. It's for people who are already shopping that segment and usually are already driving a car from that segment.

blah.

+1; well said

[SPARTAN sui]

Not a bad read, he didn't have his mirrors set properly, which is why he found it difficult to maneuver, IMO.

The sideview mirrors are tiny, and the car’s haunches are so wide that all you’ll see in those reflective devices will be a car. Your car. Why the hell isn’t blind spot monitoring standard in a car like this?

I did like the Silicon Valley reference at the end.

[martelds]

This says it .2 seconds slower than my M6 2SS. I don't think so. I drove an ATS with the 2T. It's wasn't bad, but come on. .2 seconds slower.

[Marty McFlew]

Originally Posted by cellsafemode

they are mostly anti-new car. With many of the commenters hating on anyone who can and does buy a new car.

I dont find it to be very anti-american. Not sure what part of the car one would even talk about when talking about nationality. Are we talking about where it's made? Where most of the parts are sourced? The origin of the name? The primary country the car is sold in? You can get different amounts of USA in each of those options. Car companies are global.. they dont really belong to a country except when the country runs/owns the company.

American cars for the most part is who owns it, where did it originate, where does the money flow back to? We all know GM and Ford are American and have been for over 100 years. Toyota, Nissan and Honda are Japanese. Chrysler was basically American now its diluted. Knowing what is American and not American is not hard to understand though some will try and convince you that Toyota is American just because they have a factory setup in Georgetown Kentucky. GM has factories setup in Mexico and Canada it still and American car.

[Michigan1LTRS]

Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

The 4T is an awesome ride

[cellsafemode]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

American cars for the most part is who owns it, where did it originate, where does the money flow back to? We all know GM and Ford are American and have been for over 100 years. Toyota, Nissan and Honda are Japanese. Chrysler was basically American now its diluted. Knowing what is American and not American is not hard to understand though some will try and convince you that Toyota is American just because they have a factory setup in Georgetown Kentucky. GM has factories setup in Mexico and Canada it still and American car.

So to you, it really only matters where the headquarters is located. Because in your definition, if Honda builds a car in the US that is only sold in the US and maybe even is sourced from parts made by US companies, it's still a japanese car.

See, to me, that is exactly what the traditionally domestic car companies want you to think. All the while they're buying companies in other countries and keeping the name and doing the same exact thing over there. Everyone pretending like the domestic brand is still domestic all the while they either A. Source everything from other cheaper countries, B. build it in other countries and/or C. are owned by a company that's from another country originally.

Nationality when it comes to global corporations is a tool to sway brand loyalty ...and I think it rarely correlates to any sort of real loyalty to the country in question.


To me, a car is a US car when we're basically the only/majority ones buying it. Doesn't matter where it's made or who it's made by.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

American cars for the most part is who owns it, where did it originate, where does the money flow back to? We all know GM and Ford are American and have been for over 100 years. Toyota, Nissan and Honda are Japanese. Chrysler was basically American now its diluted. Knowing what is American and not American is not hard to understand though some will try and convince you that Toyota is American just because they have a factory setup in Georgetown Kentucky. GM has factories setup in Mexico and Canada it still and American car.

Bro. GM have been in Canada for over 100 years.