Dealer trying to charge for GM Intake tune (help) - Page 2

C6J · 08-01-2017, 10:33 PM

Anyone in Canada buy the GM Intake in the US and take it to dealer here in Canada? Will they tune it?

TunaMelt · 08-01-2017, 10:50 PM

So a dealer has an OEM part where it specifically states that labor for the tune flash is to be charged to a GM PO number and they can't figure it out? I'd be willing to bet they aren't following the instructions that came in the box. If dealers were run by GM you'd be done by now.

KILLA BEE · 08-02-2017, 10:16 AM

OKAY FELLAS, HELP ME OUT.
DO YOU FEEL A GAIN OR ANYTHING

F1FTY · 08-02-2017, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

OKAY FELLAS, HELP ME OUT.
DO YOU FEEL A GAIN OR ANYTHING

Yes there is a gain. Just needs to be measured on a dyno yet.

Airflow tables are rescaled with higher frequency readings than the stock air box. More air = more fuel = more power.

k818mn1 · 08-02-2017, 11:04 AM

I had the same experience as the OP. Installed the GM intake kit myself then took it to the dealer for the calibration, with the installation instructions showing that the calibration was included in the cost of the kit and the Labor code for the dealer to charge to. The service advisor called me later stating they had called the GM phone number on the installation instructions and could not get confirmation that they could use the Labor Code. Wanted to charge me $115 for the flash. I told them no, I'd call GM about it (haven't had time to do that yet)

KILLA BEE · 08-02-2017, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1FTY

Yes there is a gain. Just needs to be measured on a dyno yet.

Airflow tables are rescaled with higher frequency readings than the stock air box. More air = more fuel = more power.

No one has dynoed it yet but one 1Le guy who said it showed it Loss power

7WSM · 08-02-2017, 12:07 PM

Dealers shouldn't charge for this. It's specifically stated in the instructions of the kit.

" This kit includes a calibration update for the Engine Control Unit. Reprogramming is done with a Service Programming System at an Authorized GM Dealer. When reprogramming, the GM dealer needs to call the Techline Customer Support Center (TCSC). The TCSC will provide a Vehicle Configuration Index (VCI). The VCI is good for only one specific Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Call TCSC to obtain a VCI number. United States 1-888-337-1010 Canada (English) 1-800-828-6860 Canada (French) 1-800-503-3222. You must have the vehicle's VIN that will be upgraded and the Authorization Code provided at the bottom of the first page of this instruction sheet.
Note: The cost of reprogramming is included in the cost of this kit. The dealer is instructed to charge the reflash to Labor Code 0601558"

It's not hard to do, but techs usually hate calling in to any tech line since it takes forever to do it.

TunaMelt · 08-02-2017, 04:27 PM

At this point I'd avoid this intake altogether. GM did do hundreds of hours designing and testing an intake and it's already on the car when you receive it. Until I see a positive dyno and get confidence in a dealer then it's Roto Fab or stock for me.

RCF · 08-02-2017, 08:07 PM

Lots of misinformation/rumors/etc gets spread on this forum, and on CAI threads especially.

I have the GM CAI, "tuned" by my dealer AND GM even paid my dealer even though I installed it myself. Does it make more power? I would bet money on it that mine does (but I didn't dyno it prior to install so no proof - but I'd yank it off and trash it if I didn't think it did). More than Rotofab's? No idea and I won't speculate (like some others) because I haven't used theirs and know nothing about it.

Bottom line, I'm happy with it, and that's all that matters to me! And I would recommend it to anyone considering one.

Burly · 08-02-2017, 08:12 PM

I would bet money it makes as much gain as the Rotofab and with tune probably more. I'd like to see a dyno challenge with GM CAI versus Rotofab on a supercharged car since the Rotofab showed big easily measurable gains there.

F1FTY · 08-02-2017, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

No one has dynoed it yet but one 1Le guy who said it showed it Loss power

no disrespect to the 1LE guy, but I can show the tables.

LS6-M22 · 08-03-2017, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCF

Lots of misinformation/rumors/etc gets spread on this forum, and on CAI threads especially.

I have the GM CAI, "tuned" by my dealer AND GM even paid my dealer even though I installed it myself. Does it make more power? I would bet money on it that mine does (but I didn't dyno it prior to install so no proof - but I'd yank it off and trash it if I didn't think it did). More than Rotofab's? No idea and I won't speculate (like some others) because I haven't used theirs and know nothing about it.

Bottom line, I'm happy with it, and that's all that matters to me! And I would recommend it to anyone considering one.

Pretty much exactly how I feel!

08-02-2017, 10:16 AM	#17
KILLA BEE Black lightning Drives: 2021 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Nottingham Md Posts: 1,997 View My Garage	OKAY FELLAS, HELP ME OUT. DO YOU FEEL A GAIN OR ANYTHING __________________ [ 2021 Camaro ZLE 10 speed

08-01-2017, 10:33 PM	#15
C6J Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 96 View My Garage	Anyone in Canada buy the GM Intake in the US and take it to dealer here in Canada? Will they tune it?

08-01-2017, 10:50 PM	#16
TunaMelt Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 110	So a dealer has an OEM part where it specifically states that labor for the tune flash is to be charged to a GM PO number and they can't figure it out? I'd be willing to bet they aren't following the instructions that came in the box. If dealers were run by GM you'd be done by now.

08-02-2017, 11:04 AM	#19
k818mn1 Drives: 2016 Camaro SS, Garnet Red Join Date: May 2013 Location: Crowley, TX Posts: 350	I had the same experience as the OP. Installed the GM intake kit myself then took it to the dealer for the calibration, with the installation instructions showing that the calibration was included in the cost of the kit and the Labor code for the dealer to charge to. The service advisor called me later stating they had called the GM phone number on the installation instructions and could not get confirmation that they could use the Labor Code. Wanted to charge me $115 for the flash. I told them no, I'd call GM about it (haven't had time to do that yet)

08-02-2017, 12:07 PM	#21
7WSM Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pearland, TX Posts: 465	Dealers shouldn't charge for this. It's specifically stated in the instructions of the kit. " This kit includes a calibration update for the Engine Control Unit. Reprogramming is done with a Service Programming System at an Authorized GM Dealer. When reprogramming, the GM dealer needs to call the Techline Customer Support Center (TCSC). The TCSC will provide a Vehicle Configuration Index (VCI). The VCI is good for only one specific Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Call TCSC to obtain a VCI number. United States 1-888-337-1010 Canada (English) 1-800-828-6860 Canada (French) 1-800-503-3222. You must have the vehicle's VIN that will be upgraded and the Authorization Code provided at the bottom of the first page of this instruction sheet. Note: The cost of reprogramming is included in the cost of this kit. The dealer is instructed to charge the reflash to Labor Code 0601558" It's not hard to do, but techs usually hate calling in to any tech line since it takes forever to do it.

08-02-2017, 04:27 PM	#22
TunaMelt Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 110	At this point I'd avoid this intake altogether. GM did do hundreds of hours designing and testing an intake and it's already on the car when you receive it. Until I see a positive dyno and get confidence in a dealer then it's Roto Fab or stock for me.

08-02-2017, 08:07 PM	#23
RCF Drives: '17 2SS, NGM, MRC, DPP; '19 F150 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Katy (Houston), TX Posts: 440	Lots of misinformation/rumors/etc gets spread on this forum, and on CAI threads especially. I have the GM CAI, "tuned" by my dealer AND GM even paid my dealer even though I installed it myself. Does it make more power? I would bet money on it that mine does (but I didn't dyno it prior to install so no proof - but I'd yank it off and trash it if I didn't think it did). More than Rotofab's? No idea and I won't speculate (like some others) because I haven't used theirs and know nothing about it. Bottom line, I'm happy with it, and that's all that matters to me! And I would recommend it to anyone considering one.

08-02-2017, 08:12 PM	#24
Burly Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Spotsylvania, VA Posts: 724 View My Garage	I would bet money it makes as much gain as the Rotofab and with tune probably more. I'd like to see a dyno challenge with GM CAI versus Rotofab on a supercharged car since the Rotofab showed big easily measurable gains there.

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