Tire replacement decision

wrankin · 07-30-2017, 10:23 AM

On the way to the Camaro6 fest in BG KY, I blew a tire in Fort Wayne IN. It's a bit of a long story, but I'll keep it short. I kind of knew it before, but searching for replacement tires in the size to fit our cars in an emergency situation is very difficult, let alone having any kind of choice. I ended up with one Hankook on the rear. I cancelled my plans for drag racing and Camaro-cross because I didn't want to try it with mixed compounds. The car definitely has a weird feel to it in turns when driving just a little aggressively. I also did a mini-burnout just to try it out, and the right rear Eagle F1 definitely gripped better than the Hankook.

I'm in the process of trying to figure out what tires to go with. The run-flats were not on my list until the blowout, but found out that limits my choices even more for total replacements based on the standard OEM sizes.

Does anyone have advice for brand/type of summer performance replacements tires as far sticking with OEM sizes, tweaking sizes, the effect on accuracy of the speedometer/odometer on OEM wheels.

I may just get a used Eagle F1 to defer my decision until next year, but would appreciate the perspective of anyone that has already been through this decision process.

Bill

C6J · 07-30-2017, 05:10 PM

I went with the continental dws06 and I'm surprisingly enjoying them. They seem to get off the line better, much quieter, great in rain and cooler temps. Jury is still out on the high speed handling in curves.

jreagle56 · 07-30-2017, 05:38 PM

Depends on how much you want to spend.
FWIW - You can probably get a full used set of factory F1 A3 take offs with very little wear on them in the classifieds here for the price of a new tire or 2.

For DD purposes the stock sizes seems to work well on the different road surfaces that are out there.

If you track the car, then other choices may be considered.

i007spectre · 07-30-2017, 06:23 PM

Been thinking about this a lot lately, I know I am nearing needing a new set.
If money wasn't issue I would get the Michelin Pilot Sport 4's.
But I just cant see myself spending that much, especially since the car is just my DD and I don't take it to the track.
Therefore I am seriously considering the Sumitomo HTR Z III's.
Good luck.

Frank237 · 07-31-2017, 11:34 AM

I've done fine with the std Goodyears. Going to look for another, NEW, take off set in the future.
I already have a spare set of wheels for my non summer tires , A very handy situation.

What STILL BOTHERS me is lack of a SPARE TIRE. I'm tempted to buy one of those donut spares so I can stop worrying. Then again I have a complete set of spares in my garage....should I have a tire failure locally I'm OK. But what about when I'm 500 miles from home?

ANYONE running a spare?

Curr · 07-31-2017, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C6J

I went with the continental dws06 and I'm surprisingly enjoying them. They seem to get off the line better, much quieter, great in rain and cooler temps. Jury is still out on the high speed handling in curves.

For anything you do on public roads they'll be more than enough. I had them on my '16 C7. All the latest gen of UHP A/S tires will be fine.

If you expect them to hold up against UHP Summer only tires on the tracks, then you'll be disappointed.

retmil · 07-31-2017, 04:14 PM

i007spectre: FWIT I put a set of Sumitomo tires on my daily driver Equinox and after approx. 500 miles they were so noisy/hard I replaced them with another brand.

i007spectre · 07-31-2017, 06:18 PM

Were they specifically to Z III's?

wrankin · 07-31-2017, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C6J

I went with the continental dws06 and I'm surprisingly enjoying them. They seem to get off the line better, much quieter, great in rain and cooler temps. Jury is still out on the high speed handling in curves.

Are these the all-season's? I haven't considered all-seasons, but I am curious.. So better traction then the Eagle F1's in dry traction?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jreagle56

Depends on how much you want to spend.
FWIW - You can probably get a full used set of factory F1 A3 take offs with very little wear on them in the classifieds here for the price of a new tire or 2.

For DD purposes the stock sizes seems to work well on the different road surfaces that are out there.

If you track the car, then other choices may be considered.

I am actually probably going to get a used Eagle F1 to make it until next year. As far as a track car, I plan on a little bit of drag racing, but will go with an all around good performer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by i007spectre

Been thinking about this a lot lately, I know I am nearing needing a new set.
If money wasn't issue I would get the Michelin Pilot Sport 4's.
But I just cant see myself spending that much, especially since the car is just my DD and I don't take it to the track.
Therefore I am seriously considering the Sumitomo HTR Z III's.
Good luck.

Michelin Pilot Sport 4's are on my list, but I'll check out the Sumitomo HTR Z III's - what made you look into them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank237

ANYONE running a spare?

If I don't go with run-flats I may get the compressor kit that fits in the trunk like my 5th gen had.

enzia35 · 07-31-2017, 10:22 PM

Sumitomo HTR Z III's are really inexpensive.
DWS06 is an all-season tire, one of the best available for our sizes.

i007spectre · 08-01-2017, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrankin

Michelin Pilot Sport 4's are on my list, but I'll check out the Sumitomo HTR Z III's - what made you look into them?

Reviews online look decent, and price is very agreeable.

C6J · 08-02-2017, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrankin

Are these the all-season's? I haven't considered all-seasons, but I am curious.. So better traction then the Eagle F1's in dry traction?

I am actually probably going to get a used Eagle F1 to make it until next year. As far as a track car, I plan on a little bit of drag racing, but will go with an all around good performer.

Michelin Pilot Sport 4's are on my list, but I'll check out the Sumitomo HTR Z III's - what made you look into them?

If I don't go with run-flats I may get the compressor kit that fits in the trunk like my 5th gen had.

Yes they're all seasons. I'm gonna run them down the 1/4 this weekend. It seems to be getting off the line much better. I did 12.2 bone stock the F1's

wrankin · 08-02-2017, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C6J

Yes they're all seasons. I'm gonna run them down the 1/4 this weekend. It seems to be getting off the line much better. I did 12.2 bone stock the F1's

Curious on your impressions after you do this. Assume you have an A10, based on the 12.2. I did a best of 12.83 about a month ago on Eagle F1's and my car is bone stock too.

bpang1234 · 08-02-2017, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jreagle56

Depends on how much you want to spend.
FWIW - You can probably get a full used set of factory F1 A3 take offs with very little wear on them in the classifieds here for the price of a new tire or 2.

For DD purposes the stock sizes seems to work well on the different road surfaces that are out there.

If you track the car, then other choices may be considered.

I agree...if you don't really care to upgrade, just buy all the take offs that everyone is putting up on the classifieds. Great way to save money.

07-30-2017, 10:23 AM	#1
wrankin Camaros Of Northwest Ohio Drives: 2016 Black 2SS Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Perrysburg OH Posts: 879 View My Garage	Tire replacement decision On the way to the Camaro6 fest in BG KY, I blew a tire in Fort Wayne IN. It's a bit of a long story, but I'll keep it short. I kind of knew it before, but searching for replacement tires in the size to fit our cars in an emergency situation is very difficult, let alone having any kind of choice. I ended up with one Hankook on the rear. I cancelled my plans for drag racing and Camaro-cross because I didn't want to try it with mixed compounds. The car definitely has a weird feel to it in turns when driving just a little aggressively. I also did a mini-burnout just to try it out, and the right rear Eagle F1 definitely gripped better than the Hankook. I'm in the process of trying to figure out what tires to go with. The run-flats were not on my list until the blowout, but found out that limits my choices even more for total replacements based on the standard OEM sizes. Does anyone have advice for brand/type of summer performance replacements tires as far sticking with OEM sizes, tweaking sizes, the effect on accuracy of the speedometer/odometer on OEM wheels. I may just get a used Eagle F1 to defer my decision until next year, but would appreciate the perspective of anyone that has already been through this decision process. Bill __________________ 2023 2SS 1LE Red Hot 2016 2SS Black / Black & Arenaline Red (sold) 2023 GMC Canyon Denali 2013 2SS / RS - AGM / Jet Black (sold) 1970 1/2 Z/28 Classic Copper / Tan (sold many years ago) Last edited by wrankin; 07-30-2017 at 01:18 PM.

07-30-2017, 06:23 PM	#4
i007spectre Drives: 2016 2SS, 2008 HHR ECTO-2H Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,935 View My Garage	Been thinking about this a lot lately, I know I am nearing needing a new set. If money wasn't issue I would get the Michelin Pilot Sport 4's. But I just cant see myself spending that much, especially since the car is just my DD and I don't take it to the track. Therefore I am seriously considering the Sumitomo HTR Z III's. Good luck. __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS. Hyper Blue, Ceramic White, Auto, MRC, and NPP. 1100 - 9/25 2000 - 9/28 3000 - 9/30 3100 - 10/27 3300 - 10/28 3400 - 10/29 TPW 11/09 3800 - 11/10 4300 - 11/24 4B00 - 11/25 4200 - 12/5 5000 - 12/7 6000 - 12/11

07-31-2017, 06:18 PM	#8
i007spectre Drives: 2016 2SS, 2008 HHR ECTO-2H Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,935 View My Garage	Were they specifically to Z III's? __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS. Hyper Blue, Ceramic White, Auto, MRC, and NPP. 1100 - 9/25 2000 - 9/28 3000 - 9/30 3100 - 10/27 3300 - 10/28 3400 - 10/29 TPW 11/09 3800 - 11/10 4300 - 11/24 4B00 - 11/25 4200 - 12/5 5000 - 12/7 6000 - 12/11 Last edited by i007spectre; 08-01-2017 at 11:06 AM.

07-31-2017, 10:22 PM	#10
enzia35 Drives: '16 Garnet Red 1SS Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 3,449	Sumitomo HTR Z III's are really inexpensive. DWS06 is an all-season tire, one of the best available for our sizes. __________________ '16 Camaro 1SS '18 Miata GT Gone: '01 Camaro, '14 Camaro, '90 Miata

07-30-2017, 05:10 PM	#2
C6J Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Cornwall Posts: 96 View My Garage	I went with the continental dws06 and I'm surprisingly enjoying them. They seem to get off the line better, much quieter, great in rain and cooler temps. Jury is still out on the high speed handling in curves.

07-30-2017, 05:38 PM	#3
jreagle56 Drives: 2022 2SS A10 NPP MRC Red Hot Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: CT Posts: 129	Depends on how much you want to spend. FWIW - You can probably get a full used set of factory F1 A3 take offs with very little wear on them in the classifieds here for the price of a new tire or 2. For DD purposes the stock sizes seems to work well on the different road surfaces that are out there. If you track the car, then other choices may be considered.

07-31-2017, 11:34 AM	#5
Frank237 Drives: Kubota 2640, 83 BMW R-65, 2017 1 SS Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Craig, MT Posts: 643	I've done fine with the std Goodyears. Going to look for another, NEW, take off set in the future. I already have a spare set of wheels for my non summer tires , A very handy situation. What STILL BOTHERS me is lack of a SPARE TIRE. I'm tempted to buy one of those donut spares so I can stop worrying. Then again I have a complete set of spares in my garage....should I have a tire failure locally I'm OK. But what about when I'm 500 miles from home? ANYONE running a spare?

07-31-2017, 04:14 PM	#7
retmil Drives: 2022 Wild Cherry SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germantown, Md Posts: 322	i007spectre: FWIT I put a set of Sumitomo tires on my daily driver Equinox and after approx. 500 miles they were so noisy/hard I replaced them with another brand.

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