[ninetres]

Originally Posted by djfury05

If you guys are really worried about a tiny clamp get extras to keep on hand for trips back to the dealer etc. They're called oetiker clamps.

I was under the impression it was not a generic oetiker clamp, and to get the same one you have to purchase the entire elbow from GM.....like $100. If it's truly a generic available clamp is a non issue, and renders Rons for sale thread even more epic

[Evolvedx27]

Originally Posted by soceur77

Im good there, my dealership is fine with anything as long as I dont open the motor up or tune it. Besides I am one of the few ppl that will actually go to court for the dealer to prove x part did y damage if I know it didnt......im petty like that!!

My dealer is mod friendly as well. No tunes, or internal motor work

[Evolvedx27]

Originally Posted by LINMUP

All this over a guy selling a CAI......WOW

Theirs like 14 rotofab threads... this is the first one I found lol

[hawk02]

Originally Posted by Evolvedx27

My dealer is mod friendly as well. No tunes, or internal motor work

Dealers may be mod friendly for the little shit, but any major powertrain issue will require GM approval before the dealer can start repair. I can guarantee with almost 100% certainty that GM won't share the same mod friendliness.

[soceur77]

Originally Posted by kwav8r

Did you mean go to court 'against' the dealer? If that's the case, unless you have something signed from the dealer you're pissing up a rope in a court of law. Trust me, that verbal commit won't me a thing when the cost of a crate LT4 (plus labor to install) is on the table- they WILL find a reason not to honor.

Thanks I corrected that, as far as a verbal commit, didnt put too much stock in it other than this is my 3rd vehical from this dealer and havent had any issues when it comes to warranty work, but mosty the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act. Most dealerships I believe think you wont spend the money to go to court over warranty, but If I know for a fact I have a winning case, you better bet Im going to court and Im also going to sue to recover losses for having to go to court. I know it sounds like pipe dreams, but Ive witness a number of fellas that have successfully done both...won against the dealer and recouped funds they paid for having to go to court.

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

That clamp is nothing more then the ones used on Harley-Davidson they come in all kinds of sizes, and the tool thats meant for it is cheep, have one form my Harley days.

[bobby35ny]

Originally Posted by ninetres

I was under the impression it was not a generic oetiker clamp, and to get the same one you have to purchase the entire elbow from GM.....like $100. If it's truly a generic available clamp is a non issue, and renders Rons for sale thread even more epic

I have the full Oetiker clamp set and tool. That OEM size is not in it.

-Bobby

[Crim]

Originally Posted by soceur77

Thanks I corrected that, as far as a verbal commit, didnt put too much stock in it other than this is my 3rd vehical from this dealer and havent had any issues when it comes to warranty work, but mosty the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act. Most dealerships I believe think you wont spend the money to go to court over warranty, but If I know for a fact I have a winning case, you better bet Im going to court and Im also going to sue to recover losses for having to go to court. I know it sounds like pipe dreams, but Ive witness a number of fellas that have successfully done both...won against the dealer and recouped funds they paid for having to go to court.

This is complete BS. I love it when folks quote moss vs mag. Magnuson's large business would have been affected for years down the line if they didn't fight in court. A regular Joe who blows his motor and has his warranty voided over a catch can or CAI in no way can fight this. It's way cheaper to purchase a motor and move on and that's what 99.9% of us do. And you can't tell me that IF they win against big corporate lawyers with iron clad warranty documentation that they will get all their money back.

[bobby35ny]

Originally Posted by Crim

This is complete BS. I love it when folks quote moss vs mag. Magnuson's large business would have been affected for years down the line if they didn't fight in court. A regular Joe who blows his motor and has his warranty voided over a catch can or CAI in no way can fight this. It's way cheaper to purchase a motor and move on and that's what 99.9% of us do. And you can't tell me that IF they win against big corporate lawyers with iron clad warranty documentation that they will get all their money back.

+1

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by Crim

This is complete BS. I love it when folks quote moss vs mag. Magnuson's large business would have been affected for years down the line if they didn't fight in court. A regular Joe who blows his motor and has his warranty voided over a catch can or CAI in no way can fight this. It's way cheaper to purchase a motor and move on and that's what 99.9% of us do. And you can't tell me that IF they win against big corporate lawyers with iron clad warranty documentation that they will get all their money back.

Yup. You'll wind up spending 2-3x the cost of a new motor to take the dealership (not GM) to court.

[kwav8r]

Originally Posted by soceur77

Ive witness a number of fellas that have successfully done both...won against the dealer and recouped funds they paid for having to go to court.

Sure, but it depends on the nature and merits of the claim. Doubt very seriously any of those fellas you mention had issues involving them making modifications/adjustments/embellishments that COULD have resulted in a disputed warranty claim.

For the record, I've seen people go to the mat, successfully, on warranty claims that the dealer and/or GM wouldn't honor. All of those involved multiple assertions from dealer/GM that the customer was not using the vehicle for it's intended purposes or in conditions outside "normal" use even when the vehicle was equipped with 'special' equipment (HD towing, etc.). It was up to the consumer to PROVE that they were using it within its intended purpose and had not modified the vehicle in any way that COULD have resulted in component failure.

And while I hate to admit it, unless you're willing to role the dice on voiding the warranty, ANYTHING you, I, or anyone else do to our cars risks that.

Having said that... If you have an inside with the dealership, they CAN look the other way and do warranty work charged against GM. Problem is they only get so many of those silver bullets, dealers don't like to risk their relationship with the manufacturer over peanuts.

At the end of the day, go nuts I say. I'm going to run a Mamo TB but I'm doing it knowing full well I could eat the cost to replace the motor.

[Evolvedx27]

Originally Posted by hawk02

Dealers may be mod friendly for the little shit, but any major powertrain issue will require GM approval before the dealer can start repair. I can guarantee with almost 100% certainty that GM won't share the same mod friendliness.

The only plans I have for the car are the rotofab and catback maybe a throttle body if tune isn't gonna be required. Simple stuff. I'm gonna wait a little while for full bolt ons.

[Evolvedx27]

Originally Posted by ninetres

You think reinstalling that fitting into the stock intake will be easy? THAT is where the problem likely lies....being able to do that without damaging it so that the dealership can tell. The "bitching" people do is because it would have been so simple/cheap for roto fab to provide a solution for this issue with their kit.

Some soapy water and patience it will go right back in. Theirs nothing that can get damaged...plastic tube into a rubber intake tube... patience.