Would Like Help With Decisions - Page 2

LtColumbo · 07-10-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyD

I feel like Glen E.Love the gas milage and it is quickMine is kinda plane Jane and I like it that way-simple.

I don't NEED the V8 power. I will not be tracking the car. And really, how often can you use even 1/2 of that power on a daily basis? Five seconds here and there! YES, huge grin when you hear it open up and feel it push you back in the seat. Great passing power uphill on the freeway. And I assume not much power loss at 10,000ft altitude. But the V6 ain't too shabby. I could live with that. But...that V8!!!

On the fence if it's worth the extra $$$$$ for magnetic ride and blind spot monitor, etc. I do not need upgraded radio or dual air...when the passenger on only inches away from you! I really had fun in the RS, except the ride was pretty stiff if the road was not smooth. I have not driven the magnetic ride version.

Does anyone have a comparison between the RS 20" and 18" all season stock tires?

Atomic Ed · 07-10-2017, 06:37 PM

It really boils down to how passionate you are about what you drive. If you are a true motorhead, then go for the SS. If you are looking to balance your driving experience with other factors, such as cost, then the V6 could suit your goals.

But from your reaction on driving the SS, it seems that your gut has already chosen for you. At our age, it's time to be a little impractical.

Indulge yourself. Yeah, it's not going to haul 4 people around, but that's why my S.O. has a Cadillac. For two people, its a great grand touring machine with plenty of room for luggage (and wine!). BTW, I took my S.O. car shopping with me and went straight to the Corvettes. With this approach, the Camaro became the "compromise".

And the SS gets really decent gas mileage if you just set the cruise control and take in the scenery.

And, oh yes, the MRC is well worth it, to me. The touring setting is the go to setting with the S.O. in the car.

corvette to camaro ss2 · 07-10-2017, 06:39 PM

I'm 64 and I will only buy a ss but I am a car guy I owned vettes grand nationals and Trans Am's so the SS is the only way to go .

redcoats1976 · 07-10-2017, 06:44 PM

might i recommend the 2LT RS,but make sure you get the special exhaust that gets louder when you get on it hard.sounds like you dont really need the extra horsepower of the v8 but you like the sounds it makes.

LuvMI · 07-10-2017, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Soleil

I know, it is probably a lame excuse but you live only once. Definitely go for a V8 2SS.

Love my V6 Camaro (and all the bells, whistles and grins it provides) and yet this point stays on my mine weekly. Of course, unlike Glen e, I have yet to own a v8 corvette or v8 Camaro before.

LtColumbo · 07-10-2017, 07:07 PM

I've always had rather "normal" cars. Import 4dr sedans. Yes, even Peugeots and Renaults! I had a 1990 Acura Legend too. The only "performance car" was the WRX. But that car was not a good road-trip car. So I bought a used Mercury Grand Marquis for road trips, and kept the WRX. When the WRX engine went out, I thought I would just get "an around town car" and got a Kia Soul. Hated that car and sold it 10 month later. "Needing" another car, but not another LARGE car, I bought a base Fusion. Nice ride, seat comfort and handling! But low on power. It does make a good road car, so I'm selling the Merc. Don't need it.

So I could spend $8k more for a 2LT plus BSM

or another $2k ($10k total) to get a 1SS. Plus $1,700 for magnetic ride.

Small retirement and social security every month. That's the practical side. Keeping payments low enough too.

Did you older guys get hit too hard with insurance premiums???

Gunkk · 07-10-2017, 08:49 PM

Insurance for me and my wife (48 and 50) for my ZL1 is $1100/yr as a garaged non-daily driver car with Mercury. Collector's $70k agreed value insurance is $975 w/ Grundy.

Norm Peterson · 07-10-2017, 08:50 PM

No more commute means that more of the miles you'll be driving will be for fun things . . . they'll at least not be because your schedule is tied to the job and have to be 'practical' for that 'commute' reason. Since you're looking at Camaros (and Mustangs) in the first place, and noting differences in tire response as a secondary matter . . . let me suggest overtly moving 'fun to drive' up nearer the top of the list and bumping 'practical' down a couple of notches for a change.

I'll be 70 before the year is out, and I recently got the chance to drive a fully broken-in 1SS (owned by one of my granddaughters' other grandpa - he's closer to your age at I think 63). His car has the stick-shift, so the possibility of the gearbox hunting for the right gear was nonexistent (except for me playing with downshifting it). My take on automatics with more than about 6 forward gears is that they will hunt under more conditions when fully left to their own mpg and emissions-weighted logic. His 1SS also had the option of selecting 'Track mode', which he does mainly for the increased exhaust sound without second thought.

I would characterize the ride as being firm, but not unreasonably so, and I wouldn't call it at all harsh. The 18" wheel & tire package won't ever handle as well as the 20" package, and Tire Rack has panned the 18" Goodyear all-season for wet performance leaving something to be desired. I've had other so-called performance all-season tires and noticed the same thing. The 20" summer tires will very likely be better in the wet, and if as I suspect temperatures where you live don't drop too low, usable year round.

Shocks and struts do tend to have a little extra seal friction when brand new, which can sometimes come through as 'harshness'. It tapers off as the miles accumulate and the dampers 'break in'.

Norm

Lerch98 · 07-10-2017, 09:18 PM

Manual Transmission.
'nough said.

CruzySS · 07-10-2017, 09:33 PM

Get a 1ss... you save money with still having the performance. I'm sure you don't need all the bells and whistles of a 2ss

Soleil · 07-11-2017, 05:36 AM

I probably do not make friends with this post but what the fu.... I am coming to an age closer to the retirement. Our kids are old enough and more or less out of the house and we have 2 other cars. So we went for the 50th. Ok here in Eu the only option you can choose is w/out MRC and the sun roof. Rest is all in.

As I sad before now is the last chance to do things which I wanted to to before I go. An a V8 loud and powerful bastard was one of it. Maybe I get a stroke or attack and then? I have probably 20-30 years left. Men use it as much as you can.
Don't take the post too seriously.
Just my 2 cents

Donner · 07-11-2017, 09:39 AM

Hello again,

After reading the comments of the others, I'd like to double down on giving props for the importance and usefulness of the blind spot detectors and the rear backup camera. I do love the head's up display but the former two are awesome and make the car far less frisky to change lanes and back up etc.

Kindest,

Donner

'01LS1 · 07-11-2017, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soleil

I probably do not make friends with this post but what the fu.... I am coming to an age closer to the retirement. Our kids are old enough and more or less out of the house and we have 2 other cars. So we went for the 50th. Ok here in Eu the only option you can choose is w/out MRC and the sun roof. Rest is all in.

As I sad before now is the last chance to do things which I wanted to to before I go. An a V8 loud and powerful bastard was one of it. Maybe I get a stroke or attack and then? I have probably 20-30 years left. Men use it as much as you can.
Don't take the post too seriously.
Just my 2 cents

To the op. Either go with all of what this guy said or look for a loaded up 2LT V6. You seemed happy with the performance of that latter, the mpg's & the V6 would not need premium fuel. Also look for & test drive a V6 1LE. If you thought the rental was fun in the mountains, this would go another step up. Ultimately up to you. The more you shop around, the better the likelihood of stumbling into a great deal as well. Let us know what you end up with. Remember, we like photos.

Edit: adding link to Motor Trend about both 1LE variants.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...ro-1le-review/

BrianL · 07-11-2017, 10:26 AM

I'm 63 and have been into cars as long as I can remember. I've had the privilege of some fine muscle cars and sports cars, and we also have always had one 'practical car' as well.

I also keep my cars at least 10 years (it's the only way I can justify the costs). When my 11 year old Infinity G35 M6 coupe was ready to pass onto my grandson as he was departing for college, I wanted one last muscle car that was refined and had the performance specs that compared with not too old supercars. The 2SS is all of that for me. I never even considered the 1SS as for us, we wanted all the items that come with it. Now we don't drive a lot, I'm at 5,300 miles a year into it. But I love the capability, the Tremec 6 speed manual, and how it drives. The rear camera and blind spot monitoring we like. I added a curb alert for a front sensor to not hit parking curbs (should have a front camera, maybe coming in a future year).

Drive them all, see what speaks to you guys. I wanted something that approaches a radical ride, and the C7 Corvette was just too big a reach financially as we approach retirement. I tried the Mustang GT PP also, it didn't speak to me. And I have had a lot of Mustangs. My first was a '69 fastback with the 428 Cobra Jet. Got all of 8 MPG with the 4.11 gearing. Wish I still had that one :-)

07-10-2017, 08:50 PM	#22
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	No more commute means that more of the miles you'll be driving will be for fun things . . . they'll at least not be because your schedule is tied to the job and have to be 'practical' for that 'commute' reason. Since you're looking at Camaros (and Mustangs) in the first place, and noting differences in tire response as a secondary matter . . . let me suggest overtly moving 'fun to drive' up nearer the top of the list and bumping 'practical' down a couple of notches for a change. I'll be 70 before the year is out, and I recently got the chance to drive a fully broken-in 1SS (owned by one of my granddaughters' other grandpa - he's closer to your age at I think 63). His car has the stick-shift, so the possibility of the gearbox hunting for the right gear was nonexistent (except for me playing with downshifting it). My take on automatics with more than about 6 forward gears is that they will hunt under more conditions when fully left to their own mpg and emissions-weighted logic. His 1SS also had the option of selecting 'Track mode', which he does mainly for the increased exhaust sound without second thought. I would characterize the ride as being firm, but not unreasonably so, and I wouldn't call it at all harsh. The 18" wheel & tire package won't ever handle as well as the 20" package, and Tire Rack has panned the 18" Goodyear all-season for wet performance leaving something to be desired. I've had other so-called performance all-season tires and noticed the same thing. The 20" summer tires will very likely be better in the wet, and if as I suspect temperatures where you live don't drop too low, usable year round. Shocks and struts do tend to have a little extra seal friction when brand new, which can sometimes come through as 'harshness'. It tapers off as the miles accumulate and the dampers 'break in'. Norm __________________ '08 GT coupe 5M (the occasional track toy) '19 WRX 6M (the family sedan . . . seriously)

07-11-2017, 05:36 AM	#25
Soleil Drives: Camaro 50th anniversary edition Join Date: May 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 2,203 View My Garage	I probably do not make friends with this post but what the fu.... I am coming to an age closer to the retirement. Our kids are old enough and more or less out of the house and we have 2 other cars. So we went for the 50th. Ok here in Eu the only option you can choose is w/out MRC and the sun roof. Rest is all in. As I sad before now is the last chance to do things which I wanted to to before I go. An a V8 loud and powerful bastard was one of it. Maybe I get a stroke or attack and then? I have probably 20-30 years left. Men use it as much as you can. Don't take the post too seriously. Just my 2 cents __________________ Soleil _____________________________________________ A car is fast enough, if you fear to unlock it in the morning." (Walter Roehrl)

07-10-2017, 06:37 PM	#16
Atomic Ed Drives: 2001 Audi TT, 2016 Camaro Join Date: May 2016 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 833	It really boils down to how passionate you are about what you drive. If you are a true motorhead, then go for the SS. If you are looking to balance your driving experience with other factors, such as cost, then the V6 could suit your goals. But from your reaction on driving the SS, it seems that your gut has already chosen for you. At our age, it's time to be a little impractical. Indulge yourself. Yeah, it's not going to haul 4 people around, but that's why my S.O. has a Cadillac. For two people, its a great grand touring machine with plenty of room for luggage (and wine!). BTW, I took my S.O. car shopping with me and went straight to the Corvettes. With this approach, the Camaro became the "compromise". And the SS gets really decent gas mileage if you just set the cruise control and take in the scenery. And, oh yes, the MRC is well worth it, to me. The touring setting is the go to setting with the S.O. in the car.

07-10-2017, 06:39 PM	#17
corvette to camaro ss2 Drives: soon to have a camaro ss2 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: chicago Posts: 17	I'm 64 and I will only buy a ss but I am a car guy I owned vettes grand nationals and Trans Am's so the SS is the only way to go .

07-10-2017, 06:44 PM	#18
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 5,029	might i recommend the 2LT RS,but make sure you get the special exhaust that gets louder when you get on it hard.sounds like you dont really need the extra horsepower of the v8 but you like the sounds it makes.

07-10-2017, 07:07 PM	#20
LtColumbo Drives: 2017 1LT RS V6 A8, 2020 Fusion Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Posts: 127	I've always had rather "normal" cars. Import 4dr sedans. Yes, even Peugeots and Renaults! I had a 1990 Acura Legend too. The only "performance car" was the WRX. But that car was not a good road-trip car. So I bought a used Mercury Grand Marquis for road trips, and kept the WRX. When the WRX engine went out, I thought I would just get "an around town car" and got a Kia Soul. Hated that car and sold it 10 month later. "Needing" another car, but not another LARGE car, I bought a base Fusion. Nice ride, seat comfort and handling! But low on power. It does make a good road car, so I'm selling the Merc. Don't need it. So I could spend $8k more for a 2LT plus BSM or another $2k ($10k total) to get a 1SS. Plus $1,700 for magnetic ride. Small retirement and social security every month. That's the practical side. Keeping payments low enough too. Did you older guys get hit too hard with insurance premiums???

07-10-2017, 08:49 PM	#21
Gunkk Thank you Al Oppenheiser! Drives: Red Hot A10 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 5,156 View My Garage	Insurance for me and my wife (48 and 50) for my ZL1 is $1100/yr as a garaged non-daily driver car with Mercury. Collector's $70k agreed value insurance is $975 w/ Grundy.

07-10-2017, 09:18 PM	#23
Lerch98 Drives: 2017 2SS black on black on black. Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 276	Manual Transmission. 'nough said.

07-10-2017, 09:33 PM	#24
CruzySS Drives: 2016 Camaro 2ss Join Date: May 2017 Location: Annandale MN Posts: 588 View My Garage	Get a 1ss... you save money with still having the performance. I'm sure you don't need all the bells and whistles of a 2ss

07-11-2017, 09:39 AM	#26
Donner Drives: 2017 50th SS convertible Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Williamsburg VA Posts: 380	Hello again, After reading the comments of the others, I'd like to double down on giving props for the importance and usefulness of the blind spot detectors and the rear backup camera. I do love the head's up display but the former two are awesome and make the car far less frisky to change lanes and back up etc. Kindest, Donner

07-11-2017, 10:26 AM	#28
BrianL Drives: 2016 2SS, Red Hot, NPP, Nav, M6 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Eagle Creek OR Posts: 783	I'm 63 and have been into cars as long as I can remember. I've had the privilege of some fine muscle cars and sports cars, and we also have always had one 'practical car' as well. I also keep my cars at least 10 years (it's the only way I can justify the costs). When my 11 year old Infinity G35 M6 coupe was ready to pass onto my grandson as he was departing for college, I wanted one last muscle car that was refined and had the performance specs that compared with not too old supercars. The 2SS is all of that for me. I never even considered the 1SS as for us, we wanted all the items that come with it. Now we don't drive a lot, I'm at 5,300 miles a year into it. But I love the capability, the Tremec 6 speed manual, and how it drives. The rear camera and blind spot monitoring we like. I added a curb alert for a front sensor to not hit parking curbs (should have a front camera, maybe coming in a future year). Drive them all, see what speaks to you guys. I wanted something that approaches a radical ride, and the C7 Corvette was just too big a reach financially as we approach retirement. I tried the Mustang GT PP also, it didn't speak to me. And I have had a lot of Mustangs. My first was a '69 fastback with the 428 Cobra Jet. Got all of 8 MPG with the 4.11 gearing. Wish I still had that one :-)

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