[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Ok, but if your going to pull a number off the "fast list" for the M6 ZL1, thats happens to be the anamoly then at least be fair and acknowledge that the 435hp GT is a mid 12 second car as there are a handful that have run those times and almost 20 that have gone sub 13 seconds.

I am fair. I did not pull anything from the fast list on any site. I got my info from what MT and other car mags have stated. I consider those to be generally more trustworthy than some dude who posts a time slip and makes a claim. And I have not yet seen any testing of the S550 GT going faster than a 12.9 in the quarter mile. And the fastest I have seen for the Shelby is a 12.4. And to be clear, I would not mention the fastest time from one car and then the slowest time for the other. I am more honest than that. And I would not compare any fast time lists because to me they are unofficial. Yes I have seen reports of the ZL1 doing an 11.8 but those do not seem to be the norm as the majority of testing has it at low to mid 11s.

[BlaqWhole]

Correction, I have seen reports of the Shelby doing a 12.2 in the quarter at best. But that is still almost a full second slower.

[FastCarFanBoy]

who pulled *mid 11 second times in an M6 ZL1?

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I hear ya. Well like I said, any comments I made was not directed at you personally. You're alright in my book.

On me


Norm

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

who pulled *mid 11 second times in an M6 ZL1?

Google it.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Google it.

I did, I saw 11.8's and 11.9's from all the "major" sources.

I give too few ****s to search further.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

I did, I saw 11.8's and 11.9's from all the "major" sources.

I give too few ****s to search further.

Obviously you didn't. Because if you Google "17 ZL1 quarter mile" then the first few results will have the test where it ran an 11.4. So you can play ignorant if you want. And you can try to act like it isn't there if you searched. But it doesn't change the fact that these cars bone stock have posted 11.4-11.6. Now I corrected myself and said the GT350R posted a 12.2 which was faster than the 12.4 I originally said. If you're too stubborn to face facts or to look it up for yourself as easy as it would be to find then you have no right to challenge or doubt me. And if you don't give 2 shits then you shouldn't have questioned me or tried to argue it in the first place. So go your way.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Obviously you didn't. Because if you Google "17 ZL1 quarter mile" then the first few results will have the test where it ran an 11.4. So you can play ignorant if you want. And you can try to act like it isn't there if you searched. But it doesn't change the fact that these cars bone stock have posted 11.4-11.6. Now I corrected myself and said the GT350R posted a 12.2 which was faster than the 12.4 I originally said. If you're too stubborn to face facts or to look it up for yourself as easy as it would be to find then you have no right to challenge or doubt me. And if you don't give 2 shits then you shouldn't have questioned me or tried to argue it in the first place. So go your way.

Why so Hostile? I searched and found nothing about a manual trans Zl1 running better than an 11.8. I searched under "2017 ZL1 quarter mile" and still see nobody posting anything better than an 11.8 in a manual trans car. So I will call it as I see it... an 11.80 car when rowing the gears.

[hitmix300]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Obviously you didn't. Because if you Google "17 ZL1 quarter mile" then the first few results will have the test where it ran an 11.4. So you can play ignorant if you want. And you can try to act like it isn't there if you searched. But it doesn't change the fact that these cars bone stock have posted 11.4-11.6. Now I corrected myself and said the GT350R posted a 12.2 which was faster than the 12.4 I originally said. If you're too stubborn to face facts or to look it up for yourself as easy as it would be to find then you have no right to challenge or doubt me. And if you don't give 2 shits then you shouldn't have questioned me or tried to argue it in the first place. So go your way.

He is talking about a M6, buddy guy

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Why so Hostile? I searched and found nothing about a manual trans Zl1 running better than an 11.8. I searched under "2017 ZL1 quarter mile" and still see nobody posting anything better than an 11.8 in a manual trans car. So I will call it as I see it... an 11.80 car when rowing the gears.

Originally Posted by hitmix300

He is talking about a M6, buddy guy

Ok well then there was a miscommunication on both our parts. I was talking about the best that any ZL1 has done against the best that any GT350R has done. But if you wanna compare the slowest ZL1 to the fastest GT350R then I guess you're right. By comparison tho, the 13-14 GT500 with 663 hp did the quarter mile in a range from 11.5-11.9 seconds. So at 650 hp with more weight and more options I would still say an 11.8 out of the ZL1 is pretty darn good. And the difference in MPH between the GT350R and ZL1 tells the story.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Why so Hostile? I searched and found nothing about a manual trans Zl1 running better than an 11.8. I searched under "2017 ZL1 quarter mile" and still see nobody posting anything better than an 11.8 in a manual trans car. So I will call it as I see it... an 11.80 car when rowing the gears.

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Actually most are running low 12s if you look at the manual runs here in the forum. There are very few 11s on the stock rubber. Not surprising trying to launch a 650/650 car on street rubber is going to lead to alot of frustration. The car will need DRs to show its potential.

Funny thing is all this claim to fame for track duty yet nobody takes the car to the track, I went back like 15 pages and nothing other than general conversation. Just like the 5th Gen ZL1 the focus of the forum is 1/4 mile and street.

[Mr. Meh]

I do road race over drag. Been sucking up break in miles. Getting the fluids changed over shortly for 8/7 Autobahn day in Joliet. Hoping to do Road America as well in October

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Funny thing is all this claim to fame for track duty yet nobody takes the car to the track, I went back like 15 pages and nothing other than general conversation. Just like the 5th Gen ZL1 the focus of the forum is 1/4 mile and street.

Because the vast majority of the US car enthusiast world is oriented toward drag racing.

Part of that is because drag racing has always been more accessible (whether that be at a sanctioned dragstrip or on some other straight stretch of pavement). It's generally easier for teens before and immediately after getting their freshly-minted licenses to understand how to drive a car fast in a straight line than to know what it takes to drive it fast - and cleanly - around the corners. Let's not overlook the fact that driving that's brutal/harsh/noisy/smoky simply puts up a more exciting show for the onlookers.

Been that way since before I started driving (early 1960's).


Norm

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by newmoon

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Actually most are running low 12s if you look at the manual runs here in the forum. There are very few 11s on the stock rubber. Not surprising trying to launch a 650/650 car on street rubber is going to lead to alot of frustration. The car will need DRs to show its potential.

Funny thing is all this claim to fame for track duty yet nobody takes the car to the track, I went back like 15 pages and nothing other than general conversation. Just like the 5th Gen ZL1 the focus of the forum is 1/4 mile and street.

The 17 ZL1 is still new. With any car, there will always be just a small percentage of owners who actually race. So when you consider that, and factor in that a lot of people have to break the car in first, it isn't surprising that you aren't seeing but a few of them. Same thing happened with the Hellcat when they first came out. And now at the track there are always a good handful of Hellcats out there. So far I'm the only ZL1 that has been to my track I would guess. And I know of only 3 other 17 ZL1s in my entire area. Give it time. They'll make more of a presence soon.

Originally Posted by newmoon

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Actually most are running low 12s if you look at the manual runs here in the forum. There are very few 11s on the stock rubber. Not surprising trying to launch a 650/650 car on street rubber is going to lead to alot of frustration. The car will need DRs to show its potential.

Funny thing is all this claim to fame for track duty yet nobody takes the car to the track, I went back like 15 pages and nothing other than general conversation. Just like the 5th Gen ZL1 the focus of the forum is 1/4 mile and street.

A stock M6 ZL1 on the list is running 11.6 while another stock M6 ZL1 is doing a 12 flat. I got an 11.8 last night in my A10. And that was on stock tires, stock tire pressure, no burn out, no launching, and rolling off throttle with TC off. If a pro driver (Randy Pobst) is getting 11.4 in the A10 and 11.8 in the M6, then the times you see on that list are pretty impressive.