[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by dicebier

The OP said for a split second, even if it was two seconds....the point being, he wasn’t talking about abusing the car. The article in road and track simply puts things in perspective, it’s a stout drive train, JUST DONT MODIFY OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR WARRANTY!

Tracking and missed shifts aren’t considered abuse, long duration downshift over revving and other childhood nonsense is.

GM isn't going to cover any damage caused by a money shift as that is not a result of a defect, but by driver error.

[dicebier]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

GM isn't going to cover any damage caused by a money shift as that is not a result of a defect, but by driver error.

Guess the op will find out soon if Oppenheiser and motortrend are lying. Missed shift not money shift...big difference.
By the way, if someone borrows your car or you have it serviced or valet...and they over rev...guess you’re on the hook there as well

[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by dicebier

Guess the op will find out soon if Oppenheiser and motortrend are lying. Missed shift not money shift...big difference

And the OP's case is most definitely a money shift as it brought the motor at least 1000 RPM above redline and that is recorded in the ECU.

[h777]

Wow. This makes me nervous now to buy a used car. Somebody over rev can sell their car and new owner will never know.

[dicebier]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

And the OP's case is most definitely a money shift as it brought the motor at least 1000 RPM above redline and that is recorded in the ECU.

Wow! He said “7500 for a split second” guess that defines as way at the 10000 (jk) range. You win, make the op feel like garbage about his mistake and all is well now that you have him feeling destroyed, good job!

[Infern0]

If there is nothing perceivably wrong with the car it will do no good to take it to a dealer. They aren't a nascar pit crew. They'll look for lights or anything else obvious. Outside of that I doubt you'd be lucky to have even one guy there knowledgeable enough even know what you're talking about. This is the same group most of the site was doubting oil changing capabilities, right?

[dicebier]

Originally Posted by Infern0

If there is nothing perceivably wrong with the car it will do no good to take it to a dealer. They aren't a nascar pit crew. They'll look for lights or anything else obvious. Outside of that I doubt you'd be lucky to have even one guy there knowledgeable enough even know what you're talking about. This is the same group most of the site was doubting oil changing capabilities, right?

Finally some common sense! A good data log will show valve float or if you wanna push it...leak down pressure test to be absolutely sure but OP , I think you are gonna be ok

[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by dicebier

Wow! He said “7500 for a split second” guess that defines as way at the 10000 (jk) range. You win, make the op feel like garbage about his mistake and all is well now that you have him feeling destroyed, good job!

1000 RPM is 1000 RPM above redline of 6600 RPM( we don't know the true peak RPM since 7500 RPM is where the tach tops out at). Simply stating a money shift won't be covered by warranty isn't directed towards the OP nor is it an attempt at making him feel bad. It was directed 100% at you and if anything, saying it would be covered by GM is giving false hope to the OP.

Money shifts are usually mistakes and not intentional acts, but having the engine go above designed limits and causing damage due to the pistons and valves impacting is not a defect which warranties are meant to cover. GM covers its mistakes, not the drivers.

But as others and myself earlier in this thread have said, if the engine is still running fine, the chance of that money shift causing damage is fairly low. Usually if the engine is to blow up due to a money shift, it will be the instant the valves and pistons make contact.

[dicebier]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

1000 RPM is 1000 RPM above redline of 6600 RPM( we don't know the true peak RPM since 7500 RPM is where the tach tops out at). Simply stating a money shift won't be covered by warranty isn't directed towards the OP nor is it an attempt at making him feel bad. It was directed 100% at you and if anything, saying it would be covered by GM is giving false hope to the OP.

Money shifts are usually mistakes and not intentional acts, but having the engine go above designed limits and causing damage due to the pistons and valves impacting is not a defect which warranties are meant to cover. GM covers its mistakes, not the drivers.

But as others and myself earlier in this thread have said, if the engine is still running fine, the chance of that money shift causing damage is fairly low. Usually if the engine is to blow up due to a money shift, it will be the instant the valves and pistons make contact.

“100 percent directed at me” hmmmm not the link to the confirmed article? Well good to know you are 100 percent targeting me or my verified posts lol I’m out

[MR 45TH]

As others have stated, you are most likely in the clear. If it was me just to help me sleep at night I'm at least going to pull the valve covers and look things over.

[SSDan]

Originally Posted by KyleL

Found out the e85 kit was rubbing the brace slightly after which was causing the dash rattle I thought I had.

If you have added an aftermarket e85 kit, leave it on there and take the car to a dealer to investigate for possible mechanical over rev damage that will be a problem. I can see an immediate denial and potential loss of drivetrain warranty for any reason (accidental mis-shift or not) because of the mod for e85.

Good luck BTW - I hope this turns out well for you and the engine didn't over rev enough to float the valves.

[soceur77]

Originally Posted by SSDan

If you have added an aftermarket e85 kit, leave it on there and take the car to a dealer to investigate for possible mechanical over rev damage that will be a problem. I can see an immediate denial and potential loss of drivetrain warranty for any reason (accidental mis-shift or not) because of the mod for e85.

Good luck BTW - I hope this turns out well for you and the engine didn't over rev enough to float the valves.

i think he meant DONT leave it on there....lol

[nicktechla]

Originally Posted by dicebier

Wow! He said “7500 for a split second” guess that defines as way at the 10000 (jk) range. You win, make the op feel like garbage about his mistake and all is well now that you have him feeling destroyed, good job!

10k is fine for a split second right?

[KyleL]

Originally Posted by dicebier

Wow! He said “7500 for a split second” guess that defines as way at the 10000 (jk) range. You win, make the op feel like garbage about his mistake and all is well now that you have him feeling destroyed, good job!

My buddy was picking on me all day about it lol. Not the misshift incident as much as worrying about it. Everything happened so quick that the back tires never locked up. I know sometimes on bikes and cars if you downshift too quickly or over rev the engine, the back tires will start to lock up. This did not occur with me.

What gets me is that GM has a reverse lockout to prevent a driver from accidentally going into reverse while going forward, it has a 2-3 lockout for the cags system, yet no high speed lockout. I wonder if the purpose of not having that is for aggressive driving/track use.

Drove it about 100 miles today without fault, but I certainly babied the car today lol.

Originally Posted by SSDan

If you have added an aftermarket e85 kit, leave it on there and take the car to a dealer to investigate for possible mechanical over rev damage that will be a problem. I can see an immediate denial and potential loss of drivetrain warranty for any reason (accidental mis-shift or not) because of the mod for e85.

Good luck BTW - I hope this turns out well for you and the engine didn't over rev enough to float the valves.

It's just the hardware for now. We are using my car to test fit an e85 kit for a vendor on the corvette forum to start selling these to the Camaro guys as well. So it's just the adapter and lines for now until the Bluetooth kit comes in and we'll finish it up from there. That line moved last night and was rubbing so we fastened it down better so she can't move again.

I'm not so much concerned about a warranty on the car as I plan on continuing modding. Although I plan on returning to stock before my next track trip, the car has a rotofab intake and we are working on an e85 kit/tune for it. It's also going to get a ported snout, upper pulley, ported tb, and cat delete. We hope to be between 600-650rwhp and then are putting on a standalone nitrous kit and hopefully break 800+ wheel. If something breaks and it doesn't get warrantied for obvious reasons, I'd completely understand, I'll just have to fix it myself.

But another poster brings up a good point, what if I decided to valet my car one night and someone else did this instead of me? I'd be certainly be shocked if a couple years later I take it in and hear this news. The used purchase is a great point as well