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Your opinion please on this square setup
I'm trying to save money and weight. What do you think about stretching a 265/40/19 on a square 19X9.5 ET22 rims?
265 tires are substantially cheaper than 275/285/295 . Also they are about 2 lb. lighter per corner. Thanks for your help
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Considering my rears are 275/35/20 on 9.5" wide rims I wouldn't consider a 264/40 a stretch by any means. Most 285 wide tires I've looked at list a 9.5" rim as the minimum recommended size.
Go for it if that's the size you think you'd be happy with. Personally I'm wanting to go with a 285 square set-up at some point.
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I have to recommend the 285 squared. They just work well on all our cars it seems. I have a 285 squared setup with Cup2's and they work great even on the ZL1. I use that setup for the tighter courses I drive (with slightly shorter straights). Flawless. What I really like about it is the improvement to the understeering. I do jump back up to the staggered 325/305 setup when I'm at the larger sweeping turny tracks but I can't say its more than maybe a second or two faster on a 2 minute track. That means a much cheaper day of driving when I'm not going for PB's. I don't think the ZL1 would do well under a 285 but you can obviously get away with a bit smaller.
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Will this be a dedicated track setup? Are these OEM wheels? If you haven't purchased them already Apex wheels are dirt cheap (and on sale right now)
![]() I would recommend at least 10" wide wheels with 295/30/19 or above for the tire sizes. On our cars especially with the MRC suspension, I wouldn't recommend softer sidewall tires like Trofeo R or Cup 2 since our MRC calibration from factory is designed for street tires. NT01, RE71R, R888R (no experience with them) might suit you better IMO
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I guess, there's always 285/35/19. Was thinking bout Apex wheels, however the offset might not work since their 10" rims only has 25 offset. With negative camber I might run into problems.
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At a minimum, 9.5" width, possibly 10" with 18" diameter. This would put my car out of the Street class in SCCA autocross but I really don't feel like it's properly classed anyway, (BS).
The offset will depend on what's available in whatever wheels I end up buying. I'd love to get some Forgestars but they're not in my budget unless I end up selling my race car, and I'm not ready to do that 'just yet'.
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285/35/19 is too much tire and it's a bit counterproductive for track use since the overall diameter will be bigger than 295/30/19 and it's probably heavier and will result in taller gears.+25mm offset should be easily corrected with 5mm spacers so it shouldn't cause any issue
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Thanks for the info. I thought the car /computer might go bananas if the overall wheel diameter significantly changes
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The Apex 19x10 et25 works great on our cars with a square 285/35R19 setup. Lots of us run that on track and the car is balanced really well with them.
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Thanks Eric. Did you have issues getting negative camber in the front with these wheels?
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Currently im using 275s because I wanted Direzzas, but next I think I am going to go to an NT01 at 285, or an RS4 at 305 (hankook lists 10 inch as a compatible wheel). |
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I know you are talking about tires here but when I was shopping for wheels I was looking for the lightest ones I could. The two options I was looking at were 5lbs different and the cheaper ones were heavier. A friend gave me some advice and basically said.. "the car had 455hp and torque, weight isnt as big an issue like your BRZ." Makes sense. That said I get the pricing issue but I would go with a 275 myself. Im on 275 square on OE wheel widths.... not looking forward to mounting them when I need new ones lol
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There are a few good threads on this in the wheels section if you search by keyword "Apex" in there. |
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