Who else is waiting and waiting and waiting on Borla NPP?

MAGAUSA · 05-19-2017, 10:31 PM

It's been 4+ weeks now. No end in sight. Supposedly redoing their design around the valves.

bpang1234 · 05-20-2017, 03:32 AM

What was wrong with it?

AdmAnt13 · 05-20-2017, 08:56 AM

I've been wanting to order, but I've been following some of your posts MAGUSA and been holding on to my money until they replenish stock..

MAGAUSA · 05-20-2017, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpang1234

What was wrong with it?

No clue.

1le32907 · 05-20-2017, 03:09 PM

Man,
I have been waiting since 2/16 I'm in process of cancelling the order I found a non npp atak kit with quad tips thanks to rdp. They are redesigning the values and it's still getting worked out been in constant communication with them for about 2 months about it

MAGAUSA · 05-20-2017, 07:05 PM

That's concerning. I've been waiting since early April. Have you been communicating with Borla or the vendor?

cfabrizio · 05-20-2017, 07:57 PM

I ordered in the beginning of the month from Maryland Speed (S-type with mid pipe 2nd cat delete) and they told me two weeks. I hadn't heard anything from them so I was going to call them Monday and see what the status was. I just looked at my order online and it's listed as pending. If there are not any true timelines I'm probably going to cancel Borla and go with the Stainless Works and their mid pipe. Thanks for the info about this.

MAGAUSA · 05-20-2017, 08:57 PM

I'd consider stainless works if there was anything out about how the car sounds with valves closed but they don't seem to care to market to that crowd. Why even bother building a valved exhaust if not highlighting them closed as much as open?

There are no good exhaust options for this car. Borla seems the only option if you don't want to have an obnoxious car 100% of the time.

Starting to think I should cancel the Borla and spend the money elsewhere. What a sh!tshow.

MarylandSpeed · 05-20-2017, 09:16 PM

The OEM valves rattle over time and Borla was having the same issue. They have a redesigned valve they are about done testing and should ship in the next week or two. This has help up shipment on pretty much all Borla valves systems for a little bit. ATS-V, Hemi, Corvette, and Camaro.

1le32907 · 05-20-2017, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAGAUSA

That's concerning. I've been waiting since early April. Have you been communicating with Borla or the vendor?

I've been emailing and speaking with Chris at borla for the last 2 months. Unfortunately last we spoke he could not give me an eta and that was a week ago. My install starts Monday on my build so couldn't wait any longer. Chris is a stand up guy always got back to me and answered all my exhaust questions. I'd definitely go borla again and again just on the support I got

MAGAUSA · 05-20-2017, 10:03 PM

This just confirms my impression of Borla exhausts over the years. Valved exhausts are nothing new and nothing exotic. I've had several from Miltek and AWE and they were fantastic. Borla tries to act like they are some state of the art company but can't even produce an exhaust for today's modern cars. The price they command is ridiculous for two mufflers. Mufflers that don't even function apparently for what they are marketed for. For the price they ask for their valved exhaust (assuming it works) should include their mid pipe. This is not rocket science. Many companies have valved exhausts.

So many cars have valved exhausts without problems. Why is this such an issue for the Camaro and Borla? Answer: it's a quality issue. Yet they want the money as if they provide the quality product. Exhausts are more than street hype and mandrel bent pipes. Time to live up to the reputation you command with your prices.

Grey_AF · 05-23-2017, 12:11 AM

I will be trading my Camaro in soon for a family car that will fit 3 car seats. Running a Borla S-type Catback no valves no afm, but did replace my NPP. If someone lives close to North Fl and wants to buy my system and give me a stock NPP setup id be down. Just need to meet at a muffler shop and get it done. Negotiable on price. PM me.

JaxChris · 05-23-2017, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

The OEM valves rattle over time and Borla was having the same issue. They have a redesigned valve they are about done testing and should ship in the next week or two.

Only reason to grab the Borla system in my mind. The OEM valves have a problem with the ceramic pins rattling out. Only way to get the OEM valve to last appears to be getting your valves replaced and then immediately doing the "repair" procedure on the new valves instead of the old valves to build up/strengthen the area around the pins. Liquid epoxy takes forever to cure though.

A well shaped layer of JB Weld on an uninstalled valve would work the best in my opinion.

Otherwise, I think the stock NPP system is a great axle-back and has decent sound. It could just use some attenuation at the mid-pipe.

05-19-2017, 10:31 PM	#1
MAGAUSA Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue 1LE Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Tampa Posts: 579	Who else is waiting and waiting and waiting on Borla NPP? It's been 4+ weeks now. No end in sight. Supposedly redoing their design around the valves.

05-20-2017, 03:32 AM	#2
bpang1234 You can only YOLO once. Drives: '16 2SS & '15 Subaru Forester Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Albany, OR Posts: 1,677	What was wrong with it? __________________ 2016 Camaro 2ss -Summit White / Ceramic White -8A, NPP, MRC, Ceramic White package plus knee pads, black bowties. -1st Car to have the "full" SEMA High Performance Graphics kit from 6LEDesigns. -1st Car to have the 6LEDesigns Blade Spoiler. -Borla S-Type w/ custom H-Pipe -Procharger P-1X Stage 2

05-20-2017, 08:56 AM	#3
AdmAnt13 Drives: '16 Red Hot 2SS M6 NPP Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: The Beach, NC Posts: 603	I've been wanting to order, but I've been following some of your posts MAGUSA and been holding on to my money until they replenish stock.. __________________ '16 2SS, M6, Borla Atak

05-23-2017, 12:11 AM	#12
Grey_AF Drives: 16' Camaro SS Midnight Grey 6spd Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 48	I will be trading my Camaro in soon for a family car that will fit 3 car seats. Running a Borla S-type Catback no valves no afm, but did replace my NPP. If someone lives close to North Fl and wants to buy my system and give me a stock NPP setup id be down. Just need to meet at a muffler shop and get it done. Negotiable on price. PM me. __________________ 2016 Camaro Midnight Grey Metallic 1SS w/ Grey Split spoke factory wheels, 15% tint all around, Borla S-Type Catback, Skip Shift Eliminator, Mishimoto Catch can, rear decklid blakout, sidemark/tail lamp blackout kit, OEM black bow ties, Premium Grey trim GM floormats, All-weather cargo mat, Radar detector hardwire kit

05-20-2017, 03:09 PM	#5
1le32907 Drives: Summit white 1le ss Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Palm Bay, fl Posts: 574	Man, I have been waiting since 2/16 I'm in process of cancelling the order I found a non npp atak kit with quad tips thanks to rdp. They are redesigning the values and it's still getting worked out been in constant communication with them for about 2 months about it

05-20-2017, 07:05 PM	#6
MAGAUSA Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue 1LE Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Tampa Posts: 579	That's concerning. I've been waiting since early April. Have you been communicating with Borla or the vendor?

05-20-2017, 07:57 PM	#7
cfabrizio Drives: 2018 Silver ZL1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Maryland Posts: 42	I ordered in the beginning of the month from Maryland Speed (S-type with mid pipe 2nd cat delete) and they told me two weeks. I hadn't heard anything from them so I was going to call them Monday and see what the status was. I just looked at my order online and it's listed as pending. If there are not any true timelines I'm probably going to cancel Borla and go with the Stainless Works and their mid pipe. Thanks for the info about this.

05-20-2017, 08:57 PM	#8
MAGAUSA Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue 1LE Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Tampa Posts: 579	I'd consider stainless works if there was anything out about how the car sounds with valves closed but they don't seem to care to market to that crowd. Why even bother building a valved exhaust if not highlighting them closed as much as open? There are no good exhaust options for this car. Borla seems the only option if you don't want to have an obnoxious car 100% of the time. Starting to think I should cancel the Borla and spend the money elsewhere. What a sh!tshow.

05-20-2017, 09:16 PM	#9
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	The OEM valves rattle over time and Borla was having the same issue. They have a redesigned valve they are about done testing and should ship in the next week or two. This has help up shipment on pretty much all Borla valves systems for a little bit. ATS-V, Hemi, Corvette, and Camaro.

05-20-2017, 10:03 PM	#11
MAGAUSA Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue 1LE Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Tampa Posts: 579	This just confirms my impression of Borla exhausts over the years. Valved exhausts are nothing new and nothing exotic. I've had several from Miltek and AWE and they were fantastic. Borla tries to act like they are some state of the art company but can't even produce an exhaust for today's modern cars. The price they command is ridiculous for two mufflers. Mufflers that don't even function apparently for what they are marketed for. For the price they ask for their valved exhaust (assuming it works) should include their mid pipe. This is not rocket science. Many companies have valved exhausts. So many cars have valved exhausts without problems. Why is this such an issue for the Camaro and Borla? Answer: it's a quality issue. Yet they want the money as if they provide the quality product. Exhausts are more than street hype and mandrel bent pipes. Time to live up to the reputation you command with your prices.

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