borla ATAK vs. gm perfomance exhaust

stevstevd · 04-22-2017, 10:11 AM

I don't have the NPP on my v6, and am looking for an upgrade. I like the sound from all the videos of the borla ATAK, and seem to be well liked overall. I am not sure if it voids the warranty, or perhaps just warranty related to exhaust?

My bigger question though is specifically if anyone knows the difference in sound compared to the gm performance exhaust... Isn't that also made by Borla? The one found here:

http://www.shopchevyparts.com/perfor...-92289358.html

Overall it seems I could get either for a similar price. Probably cheaper for the ATAK. Although since I wouldn't do the install myself, I'd be in a similar boat price wise.

Glen e · 04-22-2017, 10:13 AM

I have it on my car, search my threads for my install… yes it is made by Borla, it is stamped right on the muffler.It is quieter than an Atak......…

Bodyslide · 04-22-2017, 10:21 AM

I really enjoy the Borla ATAK sound. Here is where I got mine:
https://www.ohio-speed.com/p-12938-b...ust-11929.aspx

Send a pm to http://www.camaro6.com/forums/member.php?u=28371, they were able to give a discount on the price. Not sure what the shipping cost would be.

Here's a quick video I did.
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=104

stevstevd · 04-22-2017, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen e

I have it on my car, search my threads for my install… yes it is made by Borla, it is stamped right on the muffler.It is quieter than an Atak......…

Thanks - I was afraid you might say this! I've followed your install and part of my hesitance was because I think you mentioned it wasn't a huge change from stock. however some of the ATAK vids I saw on youtube seem to be quite a difference. But if it voids my warranty... hmmm....

Glen e · 04-22-2017, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stevstevd

Thanks - I was afraid you might say this! I've followed your install and part of my hesitance was because I think you mentioned it wasn't a huge change from stock. however some of the ATAK vids I saw on youtube seem to be quite a difference. But if it voids my warranty... hmmm....

I actually finally dialed this in, very happy with the sound. After eliminating the second cat, I get a very strong bark when I first start up then it calms down it's very quiet and no drone at highway speed, if you step on it it opens up wide and sounds very good. I'm very satisfied.

stevstevd · 04-22-2017, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen e

I actually finally dialed this in, very happy with the sound. After eliminating the second cat, I get a very strong bark when I first start up then it calms down it's very quiet and no drone at highway speed, if you step on it it opens up wide and sounds very good. I'm very satisfied.

Seems like you have a good solution - although I'm thinking the ATAK may be better suited for my needs and won't need to mess around eliminating the second cat, which I am not sure would work for emissions here, etc. I am looking for something quite throaty, a deep rumble... just want it to sound powerful overall.

ATAK (from what I see, or what I can tell) shouldn't interfere with manufactures warranty. Anyone know otherwise?

Glen e · 04-22-2017, 11:41 AM

I have a hard time believing that any dealer would refuse warr for mounting a borla. Guess all you have to do is ask your local dealer first. I do like the larger high quality tips on the borla/GM products, very nice.......

Bongos2U · 04-22-2017, 12:44 PM

What about the Borla S-Type?

https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__11928.html

PolynesianPowerhouse · 04-22-2017, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bongos2U

What about the Borla S-Type?

https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__11928.html

Considering Glen E's review, and the additional mod he had to do to get the sound he now has. Im willing to be the S-type is tje sound he now has, but you wouldnt have to delete any additional exhaust parts.

I went with the s-type. In any city, sounds bouncing of buildings, it can scare or atartle anyone when you get on it. Loid when accelerating, but no drone and decently mild when cruising. Doesnt annoy the neighbors on cold start up. And doesnt try to make the car seem more powerful than it is.

Glen e · 04-22-2017, 02:01 PM

Yup, correct. Here is the PM I received a few months ago from Lisa @ Borla
Hi Glen,

Sorry for my delayed response. Thanks for reaching out!

The GM Performance by Borla systems are designed to GM's specifications. That said, the Borla systems tend to be slightly louder.

So if I yanked the second cat, now it's probably equal to their S system. If I had it to do all over, and local dealer approved, I go straight to the S system.

camaromike77 · 04-22-2017, 02:25 PM

Insofar as the Warranty is concerned, Glen offers good advice - simply contact your Dealer and inquire.

I went with the Borla S-Type myself, and my GM Dealer actually did the install. The Dealership was very impressed with the Borla......

stevstevd · 04-22-2017, 04:48 PM

How much would a typical install on this be? I'd probably have them do the install too. I'm guessing 150-200 based on the price to install the gm performance.

I may have to reframe my question to a type vs atak... Both seem perhaps worth it. I just would hate to get the s and regret not going atak. Is the atak just louder overall our are there other subtle differences in acceleration etc.

Bodyslide · 04-22-2017, 04:55 PM

Should be able to have the muffler back removed and the new set installed for 125.00.

stevstevd · 04-22-2017, 06:21 PM

I just spent a bit watching the install video and it seems as though I could easily do this myself. Just roll the car up onto a couple blocks for a little clearance. a bit scary to make those cuts, but not too bad. Probably be about an hour of work tops, and even if it took 2 hours for some reason (getting bolts off, etc) it still be better than taking it to the dealer and waiting.

I also spent some time listening to the borla exhaust v6 video on youtube with nice headphones, and honestly the difference between the s type and atak isn't earth shattering. At least when I got back and forth from the cold start and revs. Seems night and day difference from stock though (both). I'd probably be happy with either of them.

Still undecided, but it will be one or the other I'm sure!

04-22-2017, 10:11 AM	#1
stevstevd Drives: MBM 2016 2LT RS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 98	borla ATAK vs. gm perfomance exhaust I don't have the NPP on my v6, and am looking for an upgrade. I like the sound from all the videos of the borla ATAK, and seem to be well liked overall. I am not sure if it voids the warranty, or perhaps just warranty related to exhaust? My bigger question though is specifically if anyone knows the difference in sound compared to the gm performance exhaust... Isn't that also made by Borla? The one found here: http://www.shopchevyparts.com/perfor...-92289358.html Overall it seems I could get either for a similar price. Probably cheaper for the ATAK. Although since I wouldn't do the install myself, I'd be in a similar boat price wise.

04-22-2017, 10:13 AM	#2
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,044	I have it on my car, search my threads for my install… yes it is made by Borla, it is stamped right on the muffler.It is quieter than an Atak......… __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

04-22-2017, 11:41 AM	#7
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,044	I have a hard time believing that any dealer would refuse warr for mounting a borla. Guess all you have to do is ask your local dealer first. I do like the larger high quality tips on the borla/GM products, very nice....... __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant

04-22-2017, 02:01 PM	#10
Glen e Retired from Car mfrs.... Drives: 2LT RS/HR-V Join Date: May 2013 Location: /Fort Lauderdale Posts: 10,044	Yup, correct. Here is the PM I received a few months ago from Lisa @ Borla Hi Glen, Sorry for my delayed response. Thanks for reaching out! The GM Performance by Borla systems are designed to GM's specifications. That said, the Borla systems tend to be slightly louder. So if I yanked the second cat, now it's probably equal to their S system. If I had it to do all over, and local dealer approved, I go straight to the S system. __________________ Glen CLICK HERE for detailing a new car: detailing for non detailers CLICK HERE for how to rinseless CLICK HERE for EASY wheel sealant Last edited by Glen e; 04-22-2017 at 02:33 PM.

04-22-2017, 02:25 PM	#11
camaromike77 Drives: S O L D Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Ontario Posts: 2,106	Insofar as the Warranty is concerned, Glen offers good advice - simply contact your Dealer and inquire. I went with the Borla S-Type myself, and my GM Dealer actually did the install. The Dealership was very impressed with the Borla...... __________________ Club F1FTY 2017 2SS 50th Anniversary Convertible Borla S-Type exhaust NPP\| GM CAI \| Color matched GM side skirts \| Color matched 3rd brake light \| Big Worm Graphics smoked out tail lights & rear reflectors \| Oracle ghosted side markers \| LED License plate bulbs \| Door striker covers \| Jam handle \| Engine emblems from RiverCity Creations \| 50th Center Console \| Black bow ties \| Hawk Performance ceramic brake pads \| ZL1 Start button \| CQuartz ceramic paint finish \| Novistretch bra \| S O L D

04-22-2017, 10:21 AM	#3
Bodyslide Drives: Traded in 2016 BLUE VELVET 2LT RS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Woodstock GA Posts: 262	I really enjoy the Borla ATAK sound. Here is where I got mine: https://www.ohio-speed.com/p-12938-b...ust-11929.aspx Send a pm to http://www.camaro6.com/forums/member.php?u=28371, they were able to give a discount on the price. Not sure what the shipping cost would be. Here's a quick video I did. http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=104

04-22-2017, 12:44 PM	#8
Bongos2U Drives: Hopefully 6th gen Camaro Join Date: May 2015 Location: Socal Posts: 586	What about the Borla S-Type? https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__11928.html

04-22-2017, 04:48 PM	#12
stevstevd Drives: MBM 2016 2LT RS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 98	How much would a typical install on this be? I'd probably have them do the install too. I'm guessing 150-200 based on the price to install the gm performance. I may have to reframe my question to a type vs atak... Both seem perhaps worth it. I just would hate to get the s and regret not going atak. Is the atak just louder overall our are there other subtle differences in acceleration etc.

04-22-2017, 04:55 PM	#13
Bodyslide Drives: Traded in 2016 BLUE VELVET 2LT RS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Woodstock GA Posts: 262	Should be able to have the muffler back removed and the new set installed for 125.00.

04-22-2017, 06:21 PM	#14
stevstevd Drives: MBM 2016 2LT RS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 98	I just spent a bit watching the install video and it seems as though I could easily do this myself. Just roll the car up onto a couple blocks for a little clearance. a bit scary to make those cuts, but not too bad. Probably be about an hour of work tops, and even if it took 2 hours for some reason (getting bolts off, etc) it still be better than taking it to the dealer and waiting. I also spent some time listening to the borla exhaust v6 video on youtube with nice headphones, and honestly the difference between the s type and atak isn't earth shattering. At least when I got back and forth from the cold start and revs. Seems night and day difference from stock though (both). I'd probably be happy with either of them. Still undecided, but it will be one or the other I'm sure!

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