M6: No lift shifting daily or track only.

Dysan911 · 04-20-2017, 06:50 AM

So those that have mastered no lift shifting or like me still trying to perfect it. (It's so addicting).. I was curious if this was just too harsh on the drive train, clutch, synchro's , etc to use every time I do a WOT pull. If this was something more suited for just the track. The fact that this car even has NLS tells me it was built for it and honestly I have to say it feels like it shifts smoother doing NLS than the traditional lift shifting. Perhaps its no worse either way.

What are your thoughts?

B.

one R · 04-20-2017, 10:11 AM

my 2 cents . the no lift is not a good track idea . on the track you would want to keep the car as composed as you can at all times . Id say (imo) its more of a drag stip type of performance gadget .

marknagy13 · 04-20-2017, 11:01 AM

I have heard some people claim that the Camaro has NLS but I do not believe that it does. A NLS system will hold RPMs when you press the clutch in. I have tested it out and it does not seem to do that. What you can do however is shift it fast enough so that it doesn't matter which is what I understand as "power shifting".

I would probably not be power shifting on a regular basis lol

crazydmc · 04-20-2017, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marknagy13

I have heard some people claim that the Camaro has NLS but I do not believe that it does. A NLS system will hold RPMs when you press the clutch in. I have tested it out and it does not seem to do that. What you can do however is shift it fast enough so that it doesn't matter which is what I understand as "power shifting".

I would probably not be power shifting on a regular basis lol

this ^

Marty McFlew · 04-20-2017, 11:27 AM

I think No Lift Shift is only built into the ZL1 .

glebulon · 04-20-2017, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one R

my 2 cents . the no lift is not a good track idea . on the track you would want to keep the car as composed as you can at all times . Id say (imo) its more of a drag stip type of performance gadget .

I am pretty sure no one at the track is going flat out through a turn while shifting at all, all shifting and braking(except trail braking) is done in a straight line at the track.

glebulon · 04-20-2017, 11:34 AM

you should be able to test if the car has no lift shift, my Miata has it as part of the tune and this is how I can test it in mine

1) pick a gear that will not cause a car to accelerate too quickly, for example 5th gear at 40mph
2) floor the gas pedal
3) press the clutch in
at this point the car should act similarly to the way it jumps off the rev limiter, except it will be at a much lower RPM. On a Camaro in 5th gear at 40mph you should be around 1300 rpm....if your rpm just shoots up as you press the clutch(and you are actually flooring the car) then you do not have NLS

IMadeYouReadThis · 04-20-2017, 12:26 PM

I have read that the 4 cylinder guys have nls as well. I have not received my car from the factory yet. Just wondering if anyone knows if the V6 will have nls. Or is it just on the ZL1 beast's

Dysan911 · 04-20-2017, 12:27 PM

Oh wow I didn't realize so many of you didn't know it had NLS. It most certainly does. Come on guys even the Chevy Cobolt SS, HHR, Caddy CTS-V, Buick Regal GS has it.

You have to be in Sport or Track mode. So if you ever tried it in Touring then that would explain why it didn't kick in. Just like in the Vettes you have to get the RPM's higher than 5600.

The best way for me to describe it. When I hit about 6k I keep the foot planted on the gas pedal and the moment I step on the clutch the RPM's do not shoot up to the Rev limiter. It just sorta stays right about where it was before the shift. The exhaust sounds different for a split second during shifts too because the PCM is cutting Spark.

Atomic Ed · 04-20-2017, 12:45 PM

NLS is currently set at 93% of full throttle in the ECM. If you have HPtuners, it can be adjusted.

Adp2017 · 04-20-2017, 12:49 PM

NLS on the turbo 4 is fun! keeps the boost up so no turbo lag. I use it regularly. Not every shift obviously but if I am flooring it and over 5500RPM then it only makes sense to use it. At first it was awkward as my brain couldn't get my right foot to stay on the gas when shifting but now it's becoming second nature

Dysan911 · 04-20-2017, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adp2017

NLS on the turbo 4 is fun! keeps the boost up so no turbo lag. I use it regularly. Not every shift obviously but if I am flooring it and over 5500RPM then it only makes sense to use it. At first it was awkward as my brain couldn't get my right foot to stay on the gas when shifting but now it's becoming second nature

LOL. OMG this is me exactly!.

Ian SS · 04-20-2017, 01:03 PM

It has been confirmed a million times they all have NLS..............

Corner carver · 04-20-2017, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adp2017

NLS on the turbo 4 is fun! keeps the boost up so no turbo lag. I use it regularly. Not every shift obviously but if I am flooring it and over 5500RPM then it only makes sense to use it. At first it was awkward as my brain couldn't get my right foot to stay on the gas when shifting but now it's becoming second nature

That was my problem also to start with, now it's done easily whenever desired

04-20-2017, 06:50 AM	#1
Dysan911 Drives: 2017 50th Anniversary 2SS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 930	M6: No lift shifting daily or track only. So those that have mastered no lift shifting or like me still trying to perfect it. (It's so addicting).. I was curious if this was just too harsh on the drive train, clutch, synchro's , etc to use every time I do a WOT pull. If this was something more suited for just the track. The fact that this car even has NLS tells me it was built for it and honestly I have to say it feels like it shifts smoother doing NLS than the traditional lift shifting. Perhaps its no worse either way. What are your thoughts? B. __________________ Former Ride: 17 Camaro 2SS, M6 - Fifty \| Procharger P1SC \| 3.7 Pulley \| Stage 2 IC \| Race Bypass \| DSX FF Kit \| JRE Custom E85 Flex Fuel Tune \| LT4 Fuel System \| JMS Voltage Booster \| MSD Plug Wires \| American Racing 1-7/8's LT Headers Full System Catback \| Baro Breakout Harness \| LT4 Map Sensor \| Katech Ported TB \| MMS Oil Catch Can \| 160 Thermo \| Solo Performance J-Pipes

04-20-2017, 11:01 AM	#3
marknagy13 Markoon13 Drives: Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: San Diego Posts: 853	I have heard some people claim that the Camaro has NLS but I do not believe that it does. A NLS system will hold RPMs when you press the clutch in. I have tested it out and it does not seem to do that. What you can do however is shift it fast enough so that it doesn't matter which is what I understand as "power shifting". I would probably not be power shifting on a regular basis lol __________________ Making Camaro Videos Great Again! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWS...TrnPTnKAfJgouQ

04-20-2017, 12:27 PM	#9
Dysan911 Drives: 2017 50th Anniversary 2SS Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 930	Oh wow I didn't realize so many of you didn't know it had NLS. It most certainly does. Come on guys even the Chevy Cobolt SS, HHR, Caddy CTS-V, Buick Regal GS has it. You have to be in Sport or Track mode. So if you ever tried it in Touring then that would explain why it didn't kick in. Just like in the Vettes you have to get the RPM's higher than 5600. The best way for me to describe it. When I hit about 6k I keep the foot planted on the gas pedal and the moment I step on the clutch the RPM's do not shoot up to the Rev limiter. It just sorta stays right about where it was before the shift. The exhaust sounds different for a split second during shifts too because the PCM is cutting Spark. __________________ Former Ride: 17 Camaro 2SS, M6 - Fifty \| Procharger P1SC \| 3.7 Pulley \| Stage 2 IC \| Race Bypass \| DSX FF Kit \| JRE Custom E85 Flex Fuel Tune \| LT4 Fuel System \| JMS Voltage Booster \| MSD Plug Wires \| American Racing 1-7/8's LT Headers Full System Catback \| Baro Breakout Harness \| LT4 Map Sensor \| Katech Ported TB \| MMS Oil Catch Can \| 160 Thermo \| Solo Performance J-Pipes

04-20-2017, 12:49 PM	#11
Adp2017 Drives: 2017 RS Turbo Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 376	NLS on the turbo 4 is fun! keeps the boost up so no turbo lag. I use it regularly. Not every shift obviously but if I am flooring it and over 5500RPM then it only makes sense to use it. At first it was awkward as my brain couldn't get my right foot to stay on the gas when shifting but now it's becoming second nature __________________ 2017 1LT \| RS \| 2.0T \| M6 331 rwhp , 350 rwtq ZZP Intercooler \| ZZP Catted DP \| Magnaflow Catback \| Injen CAI \| Tuned (BBR) \| CNC Honed Turbo (TPC) w 14lb actuator

04-20-2017, 01:03 PM	#13
Ian SS Drives: 2016 1SS, 2017 JKU Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San Diego Posts: 876 View My Garage	It has been confirmed a million times they all have NLS.............. __________________ SLO 1SS - sold 1SS MRC NPP 6MT 2018 Ram Rebel 4x4 5.7

04-20-2017, 10:11 AM	#2
one R Drives: 2017 1ss Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: cincinnati ohio Posts: 68	my 2 cents . the no lift is not a good track idea . on the track you would want to keep the car as composed as you can at all times . Id say (imo) its more of a drag stip type of performance gadget .

04-20-2017, 11:27 AM	#5
Marty McFlew Banned Drives: 17 SuperSport Camaro 6 on the Flo' Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 1,507	I think No Lift Shift is only built into the ZL1 .

04-20-2017, 11:34 AM	#7
glebulon Drives: Hairdresser car Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Northeast Posts: 55	you should be able to test if the car has no lift shift, my Miata has it as part of the tune and this is how I can test it in mine 1) pick a gear that will not cause a car to accelerate too quickly, for example 5th gear at 40mph 2) floor the gas pedal 3) press the clutch in at this point the car should act similarly to the way it jumps off the rev limiter, except it will be at a much lower RPM. On a Camaro in 5th gear at 40mph you should be around 1300 rpm....if your rpm just shoots up as you press the clutch(and you are actually flooring the car) then you do not have NLS

04-20-2017, 12:26 PM	#8
IMadeYouReadThis Drives: 02 Camaro SS 6M / 11 GMC Sierra Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pickering, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,096 View My Garage	I have read that the 4 cylinder guys have nls as well. I have not received my car from the factory yet. Just wondering if anyone knows if the V6 will have nls. Or is it just on the ZL1 beast's

04-20-2017, 12:45 PM	#10
Atomic Ed Drives: 2001 Audi TT, 2016 Camaro Join Date: May 2016 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 833	NLS is currently set at 93% of full throttle in the ECM. If you have HPtuners, it can be adjusted.

User Name		Remember Me?
Password