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Old 02-23-2017, 07:07 PM   #1
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Ducktail spoiler?

I'm about to pull the trigger on either a ZL1 or a 1LE..

Really 50-50 right now. I love the ZL1 looks, but one thing I'd love to change is that rear wing/spoiler.

Does anyone know if that can be removed, and replaced with some sort of ducktail spoiler? Or has anyone done anything custom so far with their 'rear end'?
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:10 PM   #2
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Some aftermarket blades will cover all the holes, the gm blade does not, leaves one hole exposed.
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:42 PM   #3
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I would like to see a GM ZL1 no cost option for a different rear spoiler similar to the 1LE that would cover that hole. Optional wheel package similar to 1LE would be preferred as well (although the standards are growing on me). Only other item a ZL1 needs is me in the drivers seat to really enhance the look
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Old 02-24-2017, 12:59 AM   #4
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Given all of the aero work that they supposedly did on the new ZL!, changing spoiler would probably hurt things. No issue if you never get much over highway speeds. Could be a big issue if you plan to track it.
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:10 AM   #5
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Given all of the aero work that they supposedly did on the new ZL!, changing spoiler would probably hurt things. No issue if you never get much over highway speeds. Could be a big issue if you plan to track it.
Would be interesting to know. I would think though with how similar the 1LE is that the blade style spoiler wouldn't make a big difference.
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Old 02-24-2017, 01:54 AM   #6
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Would be interesting to know. I would think though with how similar the 1LE is that the blade style spoiler wouldn't make a big difference.
The front end of the ZL1 is completely different than the 1LE. The aerodynamics of the front end work together with the other parts of the car like the side skirts and rear spoiler to reduce drag and increase downforce. You'd be surprised at how much difference something like a spoiler will do. There's a reason the ZL1 has its specific spoiler and not the 1LE or the same one as the SS (it's wider and longer than the SS).
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Old 02-24-2017, 07:50 AM   #7
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The front end of the ZL1 is completely different than the 1LE. The aerodynamics of the front end work together with the other parts of the car like the side skirts and rear spoiler to reduce drag and increase downforce. You'd be surprised at how much difference something like a spoiler will do. There's a reason the ZL1 has its specific spoiler and not the 1LE or the same one as the SS (it's wider and longer than the SS).


http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9467686

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Pulled from Hot Rod's ZL1 review:

A.) "The rear wing is unique to ZL1, and was designed to work in tandem with the front splitter to reduce lift. By about 60mph the body’s lift is countered for neutral handling."

B.) "The positioning of the end plate of the wing spoiler in relation to the quarter panel was critical. It added significant downforce while only adding .001 to the coefficient of drag."

There are several conversations where folks post about modifying spoilers, and aero, etc for looks. Some people chime in and say that aero will be affected.

They seem to get push-back by some claiming that nobody will notice, or the aero kits don't do anything if you're going less than 130mph.

Guess again.
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Old 02-24-2017, 08:45 AM   #8
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For daily driving purposes which is what 80% of ZL1 owners will do then changing out the rear spoiler will have zero affect on the cars handling and performance. Even still for the remaining 20% that might track their ZL1 I would say only 5% of them might push the car to the point of where aero dynamics really come into play.

Also remember, while the ZL1 does have more power than the 1LE optioned SS, the 1LE SS is almost as quick around the same tracks as the 1LE and really only suffers in the straight line performance areas.

And it does all of that with a small edge spoiler...
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:10 AM   #9
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That was very insightful. I didn't know any of that. Great post.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:58 AM   #10
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Will the GT4.R spoiler become available, do you think?
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:52 AM   #11
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For daily driving purposes which is what 80% of ZL1 owners will do then changing out the rear spoiler will have zero affect on the cars handling and performance. Even still for the remaining 20% that might track their ZL1 I would say only 5% of them might push the car to the point of where aero dynamics really come into play.

Also remember, while the ZL1 does have more power than the 1LE optioned SS, the 1LE SS is almost as quick around the same tracks as the 1LE and really only suffers in the straight line performance areas.

And it does all of that with a small edge spoiler...
Aero starts to be effective at 60MPH, so I think that will affect most drivers especially if they do any kind of racing.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:05 AM   #12
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Aero starts to be effective at 60MPH, so I think that will affect most drivers especially if they do any kind of racing.
....or any kind of highway driving. So unless you're literally just gonna go to the grocery store and back staying off the freeway, then all aerodynamic components of the car will be used.

However, when I was considering getting a 1LE at first, I thought the 1LE spoiler was HIDEOUS and probably would have changed it for street driving and put the factory one back on for the track.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:19 AM   #13
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It's personal choice, just good that people know the implications.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:28 AM   #14
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As my car is a DD, I'll mod it for looks, I don't give a damn about drag/downforce. When I raced SCCA, it was all about aero mods on my 944T....

It all depends on your intended use.......
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