We lost A camaro zl1 owner and his daughter - Page 4

samman11 · 02-14-2017, 11:42 AM

The SS is fast, and the Zl1 is faster. Owning one for most means putting our foot into it now and then. I don't believe, not for a minute, that all Camaro owners save it for the track. But we can try to minimize the risks. For the most part, if I get on mine, I make sure I'm on an open road, with no one around. That, of course, doesn't guarantee that I won't blow a tire and hit a tree or power line. I keep mine to short bursts, as I realize the possible dangers. Anything could happen, but I won't lie and say that I always keep it under 55. I don't drink or text when driving, and keep both hands on that wheel, but I'm aware that the danger goes up when I kick it in. We don't know what happened here, but yes, sadly, speed did play a part. We have all done it. Just be careful in populated areas and save it for the wide open highway.

ZED SLED · 02-14-2017, 12:01 PM

Guess we're all assuming he was driving and he likely was, but I haven't seen definitive proof. I'll keep my torch and pitchfork at bay on his guilt until I do.

rontammy0 · 02-14-2017, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ZED SLED

Guess we're all assuming he was driving and he likely was, but I haven't seen definitive proof. I'll keep my torch and pitchfork at bay on his guilt until I do.

Best post yet.....seems to be alot of people that collectively know squat about what happened here. You guys are treating this guy like a criminal without knowing anything. Why is street racing brought up in evey crash when a fast car is invovled. Could of just been showing off a bit and lost control. Not one of you can say you havnt given it a bit in your car.....this until known otherwise is just a sad accident. Give these people a little respect.

ZYBORG · 02-14-2017, 01:08 PM

5gens are SOLID cars. For a ZL1 to be split in half like that, by a flimsy stop sign, car had to be going at a ridiculous rate of speed...

Apparently there were witnesses... "Witnesses said the car appeared to be involved in a street race when the crash occurred".

Whether street racing or not, dad put his daughter's life at risk, by driving too fast for his skill level or allowing his daughter to drive beyond her skill level.

Either way, no "Dad of the year" award for him.

RaceFuel · 02-14-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rontammy0

Best post yet.....seems to be alot of people that collectively know squat about what happened here. You guys are treating this guy like a criminal without knowing anything. Why is street racing brought up in evey crash when a fast car is invovled. Could of just been showing off a bit and lost control. Not one of you can say you havnt given it a bit in your car.....this until known otherwise is just a sad accident. Give these people a little respect.

Yep...this is very similar to the crash that killed Roger Rodas and Paul Walker a few years back. Roaring along at high rates of speed, not street racing, just showing off and losing it..

samman11 · 02-14-2017, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RaceFuel

Yep...this is very similar to the crash that killed Roger Rodas and Paul Walker a few years back. Roaring along at high rates of speed, not street racing, just showing off and losing it..

In regards to that crash, I believe I read that the tires were to blame. Not that the tires were bald, but as they aged, (over 6 years or so) they did not have the gripping power that they once had. I believe that car was bought from a collector who rarely used it, hence the tires being unworn. However, age does set in, the tires don't grip, and this is what I believe I read contributed to the crash of Walker and Rodas.

fif_gen_powa · 02-14-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZYBORG

5gens are SOLID cars. For a ZL1 to be split in half like that, by a flimsy stop sign, car had to be going at a ridiculous rate of speed...

Lol let's all just take a moment to think about what you just said

Rip to them, racing or not sad story...

ZYBORG · 02-14-2017, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fif_gen_powa

Lol let's all just take a moment to think about what you just said

Rip to them, racing or not sad story...

You jokester, you!

Hixson · 02-14-2017, 02:24 PM

Very sad. Thoughts and prayers to those involved. Last thing you want to see as a car enthusiast; especially considering he had a teenage daughter in the car.

pyroguy · 02-14-2017, 02:42 PM

Very sad. I wonder just how fast they were going to split a Camaro in half. I've seen some horrible crashes of Camaros like the guy who flipped at 200+ mph, but this is the first I've seen split in two. RIP to the victims and prayers for the surviving family.

KaBoom1701 · 02-14-2017, 03:24 PM

Saw this on the local news last night as well.

They said it was a Camaro.....

Sad loss for the family...

rontammy0 · 02-14-2017, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZYBORG

5gens are SOLID cars. For a ZL1 to be split in half like that, by a flimsy stop sign, car had to be going at a ridiculous rate of speed...

Apparently there were witnesses... "Witnesses said the car appeared to be involved in a street race when the crash occurred".

Whether street racing or not, dad put his daughter's life at risk, by driving too fast for his skill level or allowing his daughter to drive beyond her skill level.

Either way, no "Dad of the year" award for him.

This is a perfect example of how strong cars are made.....
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=w0pldQNwy6g

RaceFuel · 02-14-2017, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by samman11

In regards to that crash, I believe I read that the tires were to blame. Not that the tires were bald, but as they aged, (over 6 years or so) they did not have the gripping power that they once had. I believe that car was bought from a collector who rarely used it, hence the tires being unworn. However, age does set in, the tires don't grip, and this is what I believe I read contributed to the crash of Walker and Rodas.

Well the tires and going roughly 110+ MPH on a public road...that also had just a bit to do with it.

arussh · 02-14-2017, 04:15 PM

These cars are fast as we all know and its very easy to sustain speeds that may be beyond the drivers skill set. Its up to us all to acquire the skills necessary to handle the speed in as safe environment as possible and to ensure the car is mechanically maintained to perform predictably. Having said all this, there are always variables on the street that can make circumstances combine to yield tragic events such as this.

My prayers and condolences I offer to the family.

02-14-2017, 12:01 PM	#44
ZED SLED Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South of Raleigh, NC Posts: 9,622 View My Garage	Guess we're all assuming he was driving and he likely was, but I haven't seen definitive proof. I'll keep my torch and pitchfork at bay on his guilt until I do. __________________

02-14-2017, 01:08 PM	#46
ZYBORG Lets roll... Drives: 14' Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: TX/S.FL Posts: 1,495	5gens are SOLID cars. For a ZL1 to be split in half like that, by a flimsy stop sign, car had to be going at a ridiculous rate of speed... Apparently there were witnesses... "Witnesses said the car appeared to be involved in a street race when the crash occurred". Whether street racing or not, dad put his daughter's life at risk, by driving too fast for his skill level or allowing his daughter to drive beyond her skill level. Either way, no "Dad of the year" award for him. __________________

02-14-2017, 02:42 PM	#52
pyroguy Keeper of “THE list” Drives: ABM #832 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: GA Posts: 7,132 View My Garage	Very sad. I wonder just how fast they were going to split a Camaro in half. I've seen some horrible crashes of Camaros like the guy who flipped at 200+ mph, but this is the first I've seen split in two. RIP to the victims and prayers for the surviving family. __________________ '10 Camaro 2SS/RS \| Aqua Blue #832 of 3,903 \| Silver Stripes Check out my build thread

02-14-2017, 03:24 PM	#53
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,631	Saw this on the local news last night as well. They said it was a Camaro..... Sad loss for the family... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

02-14-2017, 04:15 PM	#56
arussh Drives: 2011 2ss/rs, 1990 iroc-z Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 197	These cars are fast as we all know and its very easy to sustain speeds that may be beyond the drivers skill set. Its up to us all to acquire the skills necessary to handle the speed in as safe environment as possible and to ensure the car is mechanically maintained to perform predictably. Having said all this, there are always variables on the street that can make circumstances combine to yield tragic events such as this. My prayers and condolences I offer to the family. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS 6.4 sleeved ls7, ported CTSV supercharger; zl1 hat,fuel pump with Kenny Bell boosta pump,102 throttle body,6l90e g-force driveshaft,zl1 rearend and axels, ID 850s, dual pass heat exchanger; Auto Tech electric water pump;160 degree themostat; ls7 pushrods,rockers; Metco polished pulley kit, 2.4ud; ls3 assessory bracket kit;2 Hayes trans coolers; CAI intake; Texas Speed 1 7/8 headers; 3" Magnaflow exhaust; Alkycontrol meth kit; p;Elite catch can; BMR 1" lowering springs, ZL1 10" front 11" rear rims, trans and engine tune by wally a.

02-14-2017, 11:42 AM	#43
samman11 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Convertible Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 671	The SS is fast, and the Zl1 is faster. Owning one for most means putting our foot into it now and then. I don't believe, not for a minute, that all Camaro owners save it for the track. But we can try to minimize the risks. For the most part, if I get on mine, I make sure I'm on an open road, with no one around. That, of course, doesn't guarantee that I won't blow a tire and hit a tree or power line. I keep mine to short bursts, as I realize the possible dangers. Anything could happen, but I won't lie and say that I always keep it under 55. I don't drink or text when driving, and keep both hands on that wheel, but I'm aware that the danger goes up when I kick it in. We don't know what happened here, but yes, sadly, speed did play a part. We have all done it. Just be careful in populated areas and save it for the wide open highway.

02-14-2017, 02:24 PM	#51
Hixson Drives: 2015 Camaro 1SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Quad Cities, Iowa Posts: 623 View My Garage	Very sad. Thoughts and prayers to those involved. Last thing you want to see as a car enthusiast; especially considering he had a teenage daughter in the car.

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