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Old 02-12-2017, 11:05 AM   #1
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Proper street alignment

I'm thinking of getting a proper alignment for the street. What sort of numbers should I be looking to hit?
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:01 PM   #2
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I'm thinking of getting a proper alignment for the street. What sort of numbers should I be looking to hit?
got this from my dealer.
2016 Camaro SS(FE3) Alignment Specs,

...............Camber .................Toe
Str Front -.75 deg +-.8deg .2deg +- .2 deg

......Rear -.9 deg +-.8deg .2deg +- .2 deg

Track Front -1.5 deg +- .15deg .1deg +- .05 deg

.........Rear -1.25 deg +- .15deg .1deg +- .05 deg
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:03 PM   #3
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Stay under -1 in camber front and rear for the street and you'll be good to go. I copy and pasted the specs above from another thread.
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Old 02-12-2017, 07:06 PM   #4
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The funny part is...for the street set up, it can be + or - .8 and still be within spec...so basically the dealer can give you the track alignment and it's still within the street spec lol. For the street, like I said, I would just make sure you're under -1 front and rear.
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:56 PM   #5
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Awesome, thanks Sunsnare!
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:31 AM   #6
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I need to get mine realigned. The right side has more negativecamber than the left, probably to account for the toad crown, but it makes the left wheel stick out further at the top.
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:57 AM   #7
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got this from my dealer.
2016 Camaro SS(FE3) Alignment Specs,

...............Camber .................Toe
Str Front -.75 deg +-.8deg .2deg +- .2 deg

......Rear -.9 deg +-.8deg .2deg +- .2 deg
For slightly lighter understeer you could swap the front and rear camber numbers, or maybe -1° front and -0.75° rear.


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Old 02-13-2017, 11:05 AM   #8
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I need to get mine realigned. The right side has more negativecamber than the left, probably to account for the toad crown, but it makes the left wheel stick out further at the top.
Road crown can also be compensated for with cross-caster (unequal caster settings, with the left side set to a smaller positive value than the right).

Don't pull the left side camber further negative than the right side.


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Old 02-13-2017, 12:18 PM   #9
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Did anybody come up with dual use (street and occational road course) alignment numbers?

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Old 02-13-2017, 03:45 PM   #10
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That's like asking how much negative camber your typical street driving either needs or can tolerate, and maybe on how big a percentage of your total miles are track miles. I doubt that there's any single universally agreed-upon numbers.

The car pictured in my sig has never measured camber to be 'within spec', which runs out to -1.5°. It's closer to -2° now and tire wear across the treads is still decently even.

The Mazda 626 I used to have was sitting at -2.3° (#becauseAutocross).


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Old 02-15-2017, 10:48 PM   #11
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After lowering and to combat understeer, I found the following settings to work best for the street. This is personal experience, not gospel. I'll be trying some more tweaks soon to see if I can get more touring manners out of these run flats without bringing back the understeer.

Front Camber = -1.2 (cross 0.0)
Front Toe = 0.09 (total 0.18)
Rear Camber = -0.9 (cross 0.0)
Rear Toe = 0.10 (total 0.20)

If you're wanting a mild, touring car alignment for the street, try this. It will still shave a little of the stock understeer but should feel the best with the stock run flats.

Front/Rear Camber = -1.0 (cross camber 0.0)
Front/Rear Toe = 0.08 (total toe 0.16)

When I first lowered the car, my front camber was -1.5 and the rear was -1.9. Plus my toe was 0.50 front and 0.15 rear. The immediate steering response was fun at low speeds, but above 50 the oversteer was way too obvious. Moving to a slightly higher front camber bias, while mellowing out the overall camber and toe has produced good results.

Luckily, it is now 2017 so, Hunter and a couple others should finally have proper 2016 FE3 specs loaded in their machines. Take the stock specs the machine says and increase your front camber slightly above your rear camber as a starting point. Only get one-time alignments and make some (slight) changes every few months until you find what makes you happy.

Remember to focus on camber adjustments more than toe adjustments. You want toe mild and even to keep good forward angle. If you get too aggressive with camber, not only to you notice big changes in over/under steer, you also cause more road steer the great your camber values get in the front.
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:02 PM   #12
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got this from my dealer.
2016 Camaro SS(FE3) Alignment Specs,

...............Camber .................Toe

Track Front -1.5 deg +- .15deg .1deg +- .05 deg

.........Rear -1.25 deg +- .15deg .1deg +- .05 deg
How bad will this Track setting be for daily driving?
The outer tread of my tires is completely bald after a few track days...
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:39 AM   #13
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If you run -1.5 in the front, you'll notice more road steer in your daily driving. If you're ok with that and want your tires to wear better on the track, then a front camber of -1.2 to -1.5 should be used.
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:48 AM   #14
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