[00 Trans Ram]

No firsthand experience in catastrophic crashes with Camaro or Mustang.

But, a fellow racer/friend of mine was driving his 2008 Viper home from a race one day. No one was with or following him. But, the police figured that he was going upwards of 100mph on a country road and lost control.

The car hit several trees, killing him.

But, he didn't die from blunt-force trauma, cuts, or hitting his head. In fact, the passenger cabin was almost completely intact (no crushing, intrusions, etc.). He was killed because the sudden deceleration literally ripped his aorta off of his heart. He bled out, internally, in a matter of seconds.

After seeing what the Viper can do in a crash, I'm a believer.

Furthermore, I think most performance cars are like this - especially ones made to go on a track. They have far more structural rigidity than a normal car. This is needed for performance. But, it serves just as good in a crash.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

I don't know that I agree with that. I suppose I could see where light weight and whatnot may cause a vehicle to have lower-than-stellar ratings. But you shouldn't have to compromise safety expectations just to go fast...in some cases, the chassis stiffness and tuning go hand in hand between the two goals.

...Especially if some git decides to blow a stop sign while I'm on the way to the track...you know?

Yes, but the smaller size alone of these type of cars would make them more prone to damage/injury in a crash. Physics are physics...

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Yes, but the smaller size alone of these type of cars would make them more prone to damage/injury in a crash. Physics are physics...

Agreed. But not a Camaro or Mustang. They're nearly as big as a Malibu or Fusion...

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by camguynj

Stop pick'n on catfish

This one has headlights.

[TheReaper]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Bottom line is if you are really concerned about vehicle safety and crash tests, these are not the kind of cars you should be buying. You can say that about any sports/muscle/pony car too. People buying Ferraris, Corvettes, Vipers, 911's, aren't thinking about this sort of thing. You buy a car like that, there of course has to be trade offs.

A larger sedan or SUV from Volvo would be your best bet...but the slow airbag deployment speed is something else. That needs to be fixed by Ford asap.

Check this out, the driver walked away unhurt. Very lucky.
Epic car crash mustang soft top Ballard WA guy walked away - YouTube

[crankaholic]

Originally Posted by TheReaper

Check this out, the driver walked away unhurt. Very lucky.
Epic car crash mustang soft top Ballard WA guy walked away - YouTube

HOLY SHIT! Did the guy floor it, Mustang-pedestrian-seeking mode was engaged but none were around, so it disintegrated into a million pieces..? I wonder how fast he was really going and what he felt like after he stepped off the seat/dash combo that was left of the car he was driving.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by crankaholic

HOLY SHIT! Did the guy floor it, Mustang-pedestrian-seeking mode was engaged but none were around, so it disintegrated into a million pieces..? I wonder how fast he was really going and what he felt like after he stepped off the seat/dash combo that was left of the car he was driving.

Not the first Mustang I've seen sheared in half. Thank goodness this guy survived - but you can't help wonder "how!?!?!"

[Fraxum]

My TT 1LE went shiny side down, when a MUSTANG driver who could not handle the TT Chevy power at the NJ Motorsports Lightning track took a spin in it. He walked away afer flipping the car at lease 10 feet in the air. I watched it from the parking lot. He had a small cut on his hand his Dr. son sewed up at the track.

First of all Mustang owners need to learn how to drive. Just kidding. Luck is part of any accident but modern cars give you alot more luck.

Back on topic. I think the new Mustang GT puts it right next to the SS with better sightlines. I think I would have a hard time deciding betwwen the two if I didn't already have a CA6 SS. It is sweet, but the Mustang just could be equally so, maybe a little sweeter being fresher. My SS is ready for M6 GTs with a 7,400 redline. But maybe not GTs with an A10. Is this coming to Camaros?

Just a sideline here, I have a Honda accord that can try to drive for you. Not a fan. Paying attention and staying off the phone is better than any current car can do. Maybe in 10 years that will not be true. Enjoy driving while you can and be safe.