[sub_ETCS_ret]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I haven't found one article where a eforce blower customer tried to warranty there engine I have been looking. I do know since ours was a sponsored car by them I check to see how it's handled. . If you change anything.. the tune, headers, cold air kit.. your turned down. That's why I implied run it as came from the manufacturer. They send a representative to inspect the car to see if it was installed correctly and not modified. . They do do everythingto get out of it I'm sure.

Please post your finding on the 16 eforce systems where they turned down customers instead of generalized working for a 3rd party warranty claim company. To my knowledge they didn't offer this on my LS3 blower when I registered it.. I do know they sent me parts up to 5 years for free never asking for any money what's so ever. They even changed the bearings and did a pm service for free I sent them to inspect the blower to make ready for a sale to get a clean bill of health in order to get the most money out of it. NC ever..

I would suggest calling eforce and talk with ed in the calibration dept or chris in customer service to get the facts..

Calibration@edelbrock.com

I think what Les is saying is don't buy all the way into the warranty thing. It's a sales pitch. There is a lot of fine print in the warranty. Just be careful. If you read both the Edelbrock and the Magnuson warranties they read exactly the same.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by sub_ETCS_ret

I think what Les is saying is don't buy all the way into the warranty thing. It's a sales pitch. There is a lot of fine print in the warranty. Just be careful. If you read both the Edelbrock and the Magnuson warranties they read exactly the same.

Ya I see your point I can tell ya that eldelbrock is a lot biget than maggi or procharger. . I have car number 20 something. . Got it 2015 Dec 1 when I got the car on All Girls Garage procharger and maggi turned down the chance to have a car promoted becasue of the add fee to velocity channel eldelbrock all ready had 2 test cars.. going by past experience with them and being ale to talk to a human in minutes vs maggie using some type of crap email system for an answering goes a long way.. something else to consider. Procharger was also more difficult but a lot better than maggi when I reached out. Honestly if it hadn't been free I would of bought something else.. that's going off the out put of the LS3 setup.. but now that the LT1 is better.. I would buy it or recommend it..

[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

I haven't found one article where a eforce blower customer tried to warranty there engine I have been looking. I do know since ours was a sponsored car by them I check to see how it's handled. . If you change anything.. the tune, headers, cold air kit.. your turned down. That's why I implied run it as came from the manufacturer. They send a representative to inspect the car to see if it was installed correctly and not modified. . They do do everythingto get out of it I'm sure.

Please post your finding on the 16 eforce systems where they turned down customers instead of generalized working for a 3rd party warranty claim company. To my knowledge they didn't offer this on my LS3 blower when I registered it.. I do know they sent me parts up to 5 years for free never asking for any money what's so ever. They even changed the bearings and did a pm service for free I sent them to inspect the blower to make ready for a sale to get a clean bill of health in order to get the most money out of it. NC ever..

I would suggest calling eforce and talk with ed in the calibration dept or chris in customer service to get the facts..

Calibration@edelbrock.com

I'm not sponsored by anyone, so I have no motivation here to make one brand look better than another. My statement is about warranties in general because they've all traditionally been administered by 3rd parties who have terrible reputations. This has nothing to do with Eddlebrock's or Magnuson's quality, customer service, performance, etc. so let's get that out of the way.

Now you're asking me to find a claim for a blown engine that was turned down over a period of 1 year, the same year the gen6 was released. While I could never possibly have access to all of that data, I can probably count the number of Eddlebrock supercharged 2016 Camaros on one hand. Has anyone even blown their engine on a 2016 Camaro yet running an Eddlebrock supercharger??? I would turn this question back to you since you're singling them out and they sponsored your build. Can you bring us a person who has had their engine blown where it was fully covered so they can tell us how it all went?

Since you're focusing on Eddlebrock, this is from their warranty that I downloaded when I was shopping for a blower. The only way that someone is ever going to see the full payout is if ALL of these things happen at the same time...AND they make it past all of the outs below. How many people are really going to get a supercharger and literally live to the letter of this agreement?

Edelbrock, LLC’s maximum liability per covered vehicle over the term of this warranty is limited to $16,500 which represents the
total of the individual component group’s liability as follows: engine components are covered to a maximum of $12,500, transmission
components are covered to a maximum of $2,500, and rear axle components are covered to a maximum of $1,500.

THIS WARRANTY COVERS ANY DEFECTS IN OUR MATERIALS OR WORKMANSHIP AS WELL AS ANY FACTORY EQUIPMENT NOT COVERED
BY THE FACTORY WARRANTY IF DEEMED THE DAMAGE WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE INSTALLED E-FORCE SUPERCHARGER; ALL OF
WHICH IS VOID, IF THE DAMAGE IS RELATED TO OR ARISING FROM THE:
USE OF FUEL WITH OCTANE RATING LESS THAN 91 (R+M)/2, OR 93 IF SPECIFIED.

IMPROPER INSTALLATION, ABNORMAL OPERATION, ABUSE, NEGLECT, LACK OF MAINTENANCE OR LACK OF FLUIDS, OR DAMAGE
RESULTING FROM A COLLISION. OPERATION OF SUCH AN IMPAIRED VEHICLE WILL VOID THIS WARRANTY. THE VEHICLE OWNER IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING NO FURTHER DAMAGE OCCURS ONCE A PROBLEM HAS OCCURRED.

COVERED COMPONENTS BEING TAMPERED WITH OR ALTERED FROM FACTORY SPECIFICATIONS (OEM OR EDELBROCK) INCLUDING,
BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE REMOVAL OF THE SUPERCHARGER DRIVE PULLEY, FOR ANY REASON, AS EVIDENCED BY THE TAMPER
PROOF LABEL.

FAILURE TO PERFORM NORMAL MAINTENANCE AND/OR SERVICE RECOMMENDED OR REQUIRED BY THE MANUFACTURER’S
MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE FOR YOUR VEHICLE, OR EDELBROCK, LLC AS APPLICABLE AS WELL AS ANY DAMAGE CAUSED BY ANY
GRADUAL REDUCTION IN OPERATING PERFORMANCE (WEAR & TEAR).
ABUSE RELATED TO OVERLOADING, PCM RECALIBRATION, MISUSE, NEGLIGENCE, ROAD CONDITIONS, UNAPPROVED TIRE SIZE
AND/OR TIRE COMPOUND, AND OTHER NON-EDELBROCK APPROVED MODIFICATIONS.

EDELBROCK APPROVED MODIFICATIONS
ARE LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING: EXHAUST MODIFICATIONS BEYOND THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER (REFERRED TO AS CAT-BACK
OR POST CAT); WHEEL AND TIRE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN FIFTEEN PERCENT (15%) OF OEM OR FACTORY EQUIPPED SIZE
(MODIFIED TIRES ARE ONLY ALLOWABLE IF THEY ARE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT (100%) STREET COMPOUND).

Also right at the top of the agreement in bold letters is this:

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WARRANTY IS BEING PROVIDED BY TIER ONE WARRANTY AND EDELBROCK
CORPORATION ASSUMES NO LIABILITY WHATSOEVER IN CONNECTION WITH THIS WARRANTY.

Tier One Warranty, LLC was the company that administered the warranty and it's at the top of Eddlebrock's form. When I searched just now I'm seeing things say that they're out of business. Their number is out service and I can't get to their site...not sure what's going on but another similar company will take their place. Keep in mind that they can also sell your warranty contract (like selling a mortgage) to another company, like a US Fidelis for example - who I think is also out of business now.

Read some of the comments from people in this complaint that have a Tier One warranty: http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...s-c190513.html

Here are some more examples of things that can happen with a 3rd party warranty:

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/auto...s_fidelis.html

http://www.stltoday.com/business/us-...073ae3ec5.html

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/USFide...10-Hous-705866

Talking to a person on the phone that works for Eddlebrock is probably the first step I would take if I were still shopping for one. The first thing that I'd ask him is what happened to the place that I would've had my warranty with LOL.

[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by sub_ETCS_ret

I think what Les is saying is don't buy all the way into the warranty thing. It's a sales pitch. There is a lot of fine print in the warranty. Just be careful. If you read both the Edelbrock and the Magnuson warranties they read exactly the same.

Yup, exactly...just get whatever you're comfortable with that fits your situation. If you can get a warranty, great, but I wouldn't make that the top priority.

[Atomic Ed]

Here's how I view the warranty issue. The warranty can be thought of as chance to run out the basic install to discover any fatal flaws in either the equipment itself, or the installation. No reason to hurry up and step outside the warranty window right now. I'm enjoying the setup just as it is and will continue to do so at least through the summer, maybe longer. So far, it's been a fantastic power adder and Edelbrock's support has been excellent

I do plan to do some upgrades at a latter time, but for now, I'll just stick with the basic Edelbrock setup and stay within the warranty conditions.

[Eddie2016rscamaro]

Okay well I will not be doing anything bigger I just want a little extra power it took me 20 years to be in a financial position to buy a new camaro ss without sacrificing something in my life I promised myself one day I would own a new ss and supercharge it ( personal reasons I feel this way rip dad ) but I might go to the tracks once a year and the occasional "mexico" street race. I just want something reliable that won't break my wallet. I feel for what I need the procharger is a good option all though I'm not thrilled with their torque number. I like maggie and the edlebrock too I think I would go with the maggie though. And the lt4 I didn't know was so expensive to install on a lt1 so that's out of the question. I got excited about the non in tercooled maggie but after talking to quite a bit of people they don't recommend it

[laynlo15]

I think the intercooler is a necessity in your area. Its hot here in Missouri for about 4 months, rarely gets over a hundred degrees. Even though I originally started with a non intercooled setup I had always planned to get the intercooler before summer, I'm just starting a little earlier then I planned. The non intercooled package is still a killer setup and could be run full time in a cooler climate without issue. Even with the new setup I'll still run either Meth or E85 at the drag strip.

[LesBaer]

I think either the Maggie or Eforce will give you the most trouble free power on demand experience that you're looking for. Don't worry, if you were able to get the car and are even in a position to add a ProCharger or Maggie Jr. this soon after getting the car, you'll be able to get the full set up sooner than you think with some planning. And in a few years you may be looking at the next step up, so don't rush into the wrong solution for your long term goals. There might even be something better out by then

[Daves1SS]

Originally Posted by Atomic Ed

Here's how I view the warranty issue. The warranty can be thought of as chance to run out the basic install to discover any fatal flaws in either the equipment itself, or the installation. No reason to hurry up and step outside the warranty window right now. I'm enjoying the setup just as it is and will continue to do so at least through the summer, maybe longer. So far, it's been a fantastic power adder and Edelbrock's support has been excellent

I do plan to do some upgrades at a latter time, but for now, I'll just stick with the basic Edelbrock setup and stay within the warranty conditions.

I'm in the same boat as Ed in regards to how I view all of this. My plans are to stay stock until their warranty runs out, and then if I do anything it will be a CAI and different tune. After around 5,000 miles on my Edelbrock SC'd '16, I am very pleased with it. Once all the air got out of the IC system (which literally took thousands of miles and I question if the shop that did the install used the vacuum pump system properly when filling it up), it pulls hard all of the time. Granted the IAT's run higher than the heartbeat system, and they should have had the IC tank fitted at a higher point in the system (like the heartbeat system has it) so it wouldn't be such a pain to bleed all the air out, but aside from that I find it hard to find any fault with the kit. Their customer service is top notch too. Very impressive there.

It's an insanely satisfying DD. It is the ultimate definition of power on demand.

[SGDM]

Originally Posted by LibertyHill

I haven't seen anyone unhappy with their choice. I chose LT4 because it's GM and lighter.

What Liberty said and I left all stock fuel system.

[80sMetalDude]

Originally Posted by jrs580

I'm waiting to see what the whipple can do

+1

[Doug @ ECS]

Originally Posted by sub_ETCS_ret

You can't beat OEM parts.

You sure can on the drag strip!


OP, take a look at our 6th gen supercharger kit, we are running a special on them right now. $4,995 shipped is a darn good price IMHO.

Best of luck with it no matter which direction you choose.

[sub_ETCS_ret]

Originally Posted by Doug @ ECS

You sure can on the drag strip!


OP, take a look at our 6th gen supercharger kit, we are running a special on them right now. $4,995 shipped is a darn good price IMHO.

Best of luck with it no matter which direction you choose.

This is true!

[Eddie2016rscamaro]

@doug i'm interested at that price whats the website to your store