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BowtieRocket · 01-25-2017, 02:57 AM

Ok next question is where to go for an attorney. Havent found any that handle this in my area. I could file a complaint with Federal Trade Commission

BowtieRocket · 01-25-2017, 06:01 AM

Been up all night worrying and praying for the best. Definitely have no desire to do any mod remotely connected to powertrain anymore. At least through the term of the warranty. This could mark the end as i dont have the $12-15k to repair...

BamBam2SS · 01-25-2017, 06:25 AM

Lemon law can't help you because you bought it used, But maybe consumer protection attorneys can.

BowtieRocket · 01-25-2017, 06:38 AM

Thank you, I think I found one locally. Going to call them today.

Stex · 01-25-2017, 07:17 AM

Take it to a good independent shop you or your friends trust. This sounds like bs. If it is a serious problem then back to a dealer for warranty. they have to prove the mods caused the damage. Heck I think even GM sells a CAI.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-25-2017, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sub_ETCS_ret

They should prove to you how those mods would have caused the problem. Be positive.

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Well they do have to prove that your mods caused it before being able to decline the claim. If GM is looking at it I have heard they are not fans of Catch Cans and can void it on that specifically.

Might need to get a lawyer if this goes south.

Actually...I do believe that the only case they'll need to prove anything is if the customer takes the issue to court. Even then, I think it's the customer's burden to prove their modifications did not cause the damage.

It's their warranty, and they reserve the right to deny coverage as stated in their disclaimers and exclusions.

But hopefully it won't come to that...

BowtieRocket · 01-25-2017, 09:29 AM

Here's some interesting information that was brought to my attention:
http://forums.genvibe.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=62

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-25-2017, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BowtieRocket

Here's some interesting information that was brought to my attention:
http://forums.genvibe.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=62

There is some good info in there. Interesting read.

Yet...also a LOT of misleading assumptions...

Hyper16 · 01-25-2017, 10:45 AM

Depending on how this turns out, a lot of folks may be returning their car to stock.

HDRDTD · 01-25-2017, 10:59 AM

There was a long thread over on Camaro5.com about a person that lost oil pressure, shut it down immediately, dealer tore it apart, sent photos to GM for warranty approval and GM denied the warranty due to the fact he had a catch can installed, even though there was a known (by GM) issue with oil pump failures.

It was a very long thread, and I'm not sure if it ever got resolved to the customer satisfaction. IIRC, after GM denied the claim, the dealer ended up returning the engine still in pieces after the tear-down.

BowtieRocket · 01-25-2017, 11:02 AM

I have heard about that, and also don't know the outcome. IMHO just because they did it to someone in the past, doesn't make it right or legal. I intend to see this through. IF an investigation or lawsuit begins, I am sure I will be subject to a gag order until the proceedings are complete.

Richard0nee · 01-25-2017, 11:06 AM

Catch can is a grey area with warranty claims. If you have it, just take it off.

Here's a good read about one issue with them. See post #28

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...arranty-2.html

BowtieRocket · 01-25-2017, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

Catch can is a grey area with warranty claims. If you have it, just take it off.

Here's a good read about one issue with them. See post #28

http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...arranty-2.html

Interesting point of view.

sworn · 01-25-2017, 11:37 AM

Wow, what an unfortunate situation. I hope you're able to resolve it soon!

01-25-2017, 02:57 AM	#43
BowtieRocket Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS- M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133 View My Garage	Ok next question is where to go for an attorney. Havent found any that handle this in my area. I could file a complaint with Federal Trade Commission __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS M6- Garage

01-25-2017, 06:01 AM	#44
BowtieRocket Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS- M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133 View My Garage	Been up all night worrying and praying for the best. Definitely have no desire to do any mod remotely connected to powertrain anymore. At least through the term of the warranty. This could mark the end as i dont have the $12-15k to repair... __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS M6- Garage

01-25-2017, 06:38 AM	#46
BowtieRocket Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS- M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133 View My Garage	Thank you, I think I found one locally. Going to call them today. __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS M6- Garage

01-25-2017, 09:29 AM	#49
BowtieRocket Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS- M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133 View My Garage	Here's some interesting information that was brought to my attention: http://forums.genvibe.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=62 __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS M6- Garage

01-25-2017, 10:45 AM	#51
Hyper16 A Heartbeat Away......... Drives: Not As Fast As I Would Like To Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,379	Depending on how this turns out, a lot of folks may be returning their car to stock. __________________ ,,,,,,, 2016 Hyper Blue Metallic 2SS \| A8 \| MRC \| Sunroof \| Nav \| Mishimoto Catch Can \| GM CAI \| Hurst Shifter \| Borla S-Type Exhaust \| Body Color Splash Guards \| 1LE Splitter \| GM Dark Tail Lights \| ZL1 Third Brake Light \| Custom Fuel Door, Badges & Bowties \| Oracle Side Markers \| Blacked Out Stuff \| Opti-Coat Pro+ The problem with this world is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be penalties for stupidity, but why don't we just take the warning labels off everything and let the problem solve itself.

01-25-2017, 06:25 AM	#45
BamBam2SS Drives: 2017 2SS/M6 W/MRC & NPP Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Mountain House, California Posts: 252	Lemon law can't help you because you bought it used, But maybe consumer protection attorneys can.

01-25-2017, 07:17 AM	#47
Stex Drives: 67 goat, 69 goat ram air III Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South texas Posts: 1,443	Take it to a good independent shop you or your friends trust. This sounds like bs. If it is a serious problem then back to a dealer for warranty. they have to prove the mods caused the damage. Heck I think even GM sells a CAI.

01-25-2017, 10:59 AM	#52
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,046	There was a long thread over on Camaro5.com about a person that lost oil pressure, shut it down immediately, dealer tore it apart, sent photos to GM for warranty approval and GM denied the warranty due to the fact he had a catch can installed, even though there was a known (by GM) issue with oil pump failures. It was a very long thread, and I'm not sure if it ever got resolved to the customer satisfaction. IIRC, after GM denied the claim, the dealer ended up returning the engine still in pieces after the tear-down.

01-25-2017, 11:02 AM	#53
BowtieRocket Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS- M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,133 View My Garage	I have heard about that, and also don't know the outcome. IMHO just because they did it to someone in the past, doesn't make it right or legal. I intend to see this through. IF an investigation or lawsuit begins, I am sure I will be subject to a gag order until the proceedings are complete. __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS M6- Garage

01-25-2017, 11:06 AM	#54
Richard0nee Drives: 2016 SS M6, NPP Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Hawthorne, CA Posts: 1,957	Catch can is a grey area with warranty claims. If you have it, just take it off. Here's a good read about one issue with them. See post #28 http://www.stingrayforums.com/forum/...arranty-2.html

01-25-2017, 11:37 AM	#56
sworn Drives: 2019 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Chicago Posts: 138	Wow, what an unfortunate situation. I hope you're able to resolve it soon! __________________ 2019 Camaro 1SS. Crush. Mishimoto Catch Can, BMR Strut Tower Brace, Oracle Side Markers, ZL1 Side Skirts, Blade Spoiler W/ZL1 Addons Wicker Bill, Exhaust Cut Outs, BMR Front and Rear Cradle Braces, Cold Air Inductions CAI. ZL1 Rims 285 Fronts and 305's Rear. Speed Inc Tune PCM & TCM.

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