[Sledgehammer70]

Originally Posted by CamaroDude2ss

Hey Everyone...! I purchased my 2016 2SS, 8 speed automatic about three months ago and I'm really enjoying the ride. I'm seeking your advice on what’s the best cold air intake. I’ve researched so many that my head is spinning. Your help is GREATLY appreciated…!!

Roto-Fab and AFE is great for Manuals or A8, Cold Air Inductions performs better on a M6 over the A8.

[Dysan911]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Roto-Fab and AFE is great for Manuals or A8, Cold Air Inductions performs better on a M6 over the A8.

I'd be really curious to understand how and why the CAI works better on an M6.

[Sledgehammer70]

Originally Posted by Dysan911

I'd be really curious to understand how and why the CAI works better on an M6.

The A8 ECU seems to force the car to want to stay within the same perimeters as stock. So no matter what you do to it, it just doesn't want to take on more power and the ECU forces it to run like it did with the stock setup. Saw this happen on my A8 across multiple dyno's until we lifted the parameters it was tracking. Once we did that we saw solid gains. Overall that counts as tuning the car.

Overall Roto-Fab had the same issue for me at first, but I was running into an issue with the ECU re-learning between CAI swaps. I literally had to go to my dealer and have them perform a re-learn to make my car realize the CAI setup was no longer on my car.

Once that happened the Roto-Fab system showed solid gains with the stock tune from GM and even better gains with a real tune.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by BowtieRocket

Reliable sources state that the Cold Air Inductions and Roto-fab make similar gains...

Agreed.

After wrestling with the same question as the OP, I bought the Cold Air Inductions unit and couldn't be happier with the performance. If you're looking for seat of the pants improvement, forget it. 8 to 11 HP gains have been suggested and shown by dyno pulls on both. At the end of the day, the small improvements will finally give you measureable performance gains. I did a number of posts on mine.

[Roto-fab 1]

Originally Posted by CamaroDude2ss

Hey Everyone...! I purchased my 2016 2SS, 8 speed automatic about three months ago and I'm really enjoying the ride. I'm seeking your advice on what’s the best cold air intake. I’ve researched so many that my head is spinning. Your help is GREATLY appreciated…!!

You can't go wrong with Roto-fab!

One advantage of our system is that it won't drastically change your AFR. Our system performs great with or without a tune!

Our molded polymer airbox design also seals out far more effectively than any of our metal prototypes, providing very low intake air temperatures.

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If you would like to learn more about the advantages of a Roto-fab CAI, I would be glad to talk anytime!

Michael

[rap47]

I am old school (and old)...but this real world instead of a dyno!

[F1FTY]

Originally Posted by Roto-fab 1

You can't go wrong with Roto-fab!

One advantage of our system is that it won't drastically change your AFR. Our system performs great with or without a tune!

Our molded polymer airbox design also seals out far more effectively than any of our metal prototypes, providing very low intake air temperatures.

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If you would like to learn more about the advantages of a Roto-fab CAI, I would be glad to talk anytime!

Michael

You build the best CAI on the market right now. The quality and gains are self-evident across all tests.

However, your marketing on here is horrible. It's too much and causes me to be completely uninterested in your product. Every CAI thread does not need a rotofab ad in it.

Just my two cents, and I do respect your product and company.

[KILLA BEE]

All this will be pointless once the GM PERFORMANCE INTAKE comes out. Thats gonna be the go with no warranty worries.

[Dysan911]

Originally Posted by rap47

I am old school (and old)...but this real world instead of a dyno!

Does rotofab have anything similar to this? Very hard to ignore these real world results. I think I may be leaning towards CAI now.

[keon718nyc]

I am a average Joe consumer with a bone stock Camaro. There is so many threads now on which one is better in terms of gains and quality its getting crazy. I bought both Cold Air Inductions CAI and Roto-Fab's CAI and went back and forth installing and running them for a little time. While they both are built well from the looks of it i ended selling the Roto-Fab and ended up keeping the CAI CAI. My Camaro will never see a dyno only the drag strip while i own it and personally after installing both systems i get more of a swoosh/intake sound and lower range pick up feel with the Cold Air Inductions unit. The Roto-Fab i felt i lost some lower end power and got more upper instead with no intake sound present much like stock. Seems to me the the Cold Air Inductions is pulling in more air from the sound and feel of it IMO. Sorry i can't be more advanced and technically termed about this topic but what i was looking for i got in the CAI CAI.

[mrc54]

If you look at the GM intake, it has blue filter. I think it is dry. You can't get a dry filter from CAI that I know of.

[Roto-fab 1]

Originally Posted by Dysan911

Does rotofab have anything similar to this? Very hard to ignore these real world results. I think I may be leaning towards CAI now.

I will try to find some track test results for comparison. One important detail of our system's performance is the MAF data after a few hundred miles of driving.

Our system has proven to perform great even after the computer has had time to adjust fuel trims and "learn" the changes.

Michael

[Sledgehammer70]

Originally Posted by Dysan911

Does rotofab have anything similar to this? Very hard to ignore these real world results. I think I may be leaning towards CAI now.

Unfortunately, these results are skewed unless they applied a forced relearn on the ECU. I found some CAI's caused the ECU to lock in and not reset when putting another product on. This resulted in the data on my next test to be skewed or wrong. I had to basically void my warranty to be able to do back to back testing with the ECU properly reading what each CAI is doing. Without a proper relearn you have to take the results to back to back testing with a grain of salt.

I proved the ECU issue in many of my tests by doing a forced re-learn by resetting the ECU with my HP Tuner. Once I did that, the car was run for 50 miles and then strapped to a dyno. Thankfully weather here in SoCal has been persistent and cool, so results over a full day are within 2 degrees of each other, and all tests were done on a car that was heated up (No unicorn runs here). I did a test where we added the Stock, box back on to the car after a few different relearns and CAI's and the stock box would put down 10+ hp over its original runs. Once the relearn was applied it would default to its original numbers we saw.

[KILLA BEE]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

Unfortunately, these results are skewed unless they applied a forced relearn on the ECU. I found some CAI's caused the ECU to lock in and not reset when putting another product on. This resulted in the data on my next test to be skewed or wrong. I had to basically void my warranty to be able to do back to back testing with the ECU properly reading what each CAI is doing. Without a proper relearn you have to take the results to back to back testing with a grain of salt.

I proved the ECU issue in many of my tests by doing a forced re-learn by resetting the ECU with my HP Tuner. Once I did that, the car was run for 50 miles and then strapped to a dyno. Thankfully weather here in SoCal has been persistent and cool, so results over a full day are within 2 degrees of each other, and all tests were done on a car that was heated up (No unicorn runs here). I did a test where we added the Stock, box back on to the car after a few different relearns and CAI's and the stock box would put down 10+ hp over its original runs. Once the relearn was applied it would default to its original numbers we saw.

I hope you get your hands on a GM intake.it should end all this!!!!