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Old 11-26-2016, 12:06 PM   #1
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Vitesse Throttle Controller installed, car transformed

Despite my better judgement--I was in the skeptic camp--I installed the Vitesse throttle controller on my manual v6, and am very impressed. Thanks very much to Sledge for the installation DIY.

As most of you know, the boost settings range from 0 (stock) to 9. I find that setting 3 is what I would have expected the car's "sport" mode to deliver (which unfortunately has little-to-no effect on throttle mapping with the 6-speed). Setting 5 is what I would expect if it had a "sport+" setting. So far, I'm settling on 4.

The car feels much, much more lively, and contrary to what some suspect, the throttle has not become an on/off switch. It is more touchy, of course, but still easy to modulate; for my taste, it's actually easier because I find it more comfortable to keep the pedal in the earlier part of travel as opposed to pushing further down, if that makes any sense. According to the display, throttle-to-pedal relationship is still pretty linear at moderate settings and you still have to push way down to get 100% WOT.

A major plus is that throttle blipping on downshift is way easier and more satisfying. This more than anything opened my eyes to the throttle delay I kept reading about but hadn't noticed before.

I've only taken a short drive, but I'm now firmly in the believer camp.

As has been discussed ad nauseam, this is not an outright performance mod. I see it as making the car respond in a more intuitive way. As I mentioned earlier, this is what sport mode should have delivered, IMO.

The car may not perform better in absolute terms, but many of us will get more performance out of the car in day-to-day driving. In a quarter mile, for example, the car will not trap any faster, but most average drivers will feel more confident in point-and-squirt situations with a moderate boost setting.

Experience may vary for A8 vehicles or manual drivers who are still learning their car.

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Old 11-26-2016, 07:24 PM   #2
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Despite my better judgement--I was in the skeptic camp--I installed the Vitesse throttle controller on my manual v6, and am very impressed. Thanks very much to Sledge for the installation DIY.

As most of you know, the boost settings range from 0 (stock) to 9. I find that setting 3 is what I would have expected the car's "sport" mode to deliver (which unfortunately has little-to-no effect on throttle mapping with the 6-speed). Setting 5 is what I would expect if it had a "sport+" setting. So far, I'm settling on 4.

The car feels much, much more lively, and contrary to what some suspect, the throttle has not become an on/off switch. It is more touchy, of course, but still easy to modulate; for my taste, it's actually easier because I find it more comfortable to keep the pedal in the earlier part of travel as opposed to pushing further down, if that makes any sense. According to the display, throttle-to-pedal relationship is still pretty linear at moderate settings and you still have to push way down to get 100% WOT.

A major plus is that throttle blipping on downshift is way easier and more satisfying. This more than anything opened my eyes to the throttle delay I kept reading about but hadn't noticed before.

I've only taken a short drive, but I'm now firmly in the believer camp.

As has been discussed ad nauseam, this is not an outright performance mod. I see it as making the car respond in a more intuitive way. As I mentioned earlier, this is what sport mode should have delivered, IMO.

The car may not perform better in absolute terms, but many of us will get more performance out of the car in day-to-day driving. In a quarter mile, for example, the car will not trap any faster, but most average drivers will feel more confident in point-and-squirt situations with a moderate boost setting.

Experience my vary for A8 vehicles or manual drivers who are still learning their car.
thanks for your thoughts, did you use the one on their site for the c7? The same one people are using for the SS
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Old 11-26-2016, 07:49 PM   #3
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thanks for your thoughts, did you use the one on their site for the c7? The same one people are using for the SS
I ordered the one that they list for the 2016+ Camaro. Seems to be the one you're referring to.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:36 AM   #4
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I ordered the one that they list for the 2016+ Camaro. Seems to be the one you're referring to.
Thank you
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:56 PM   #5
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Despite my better judgement--I was in the skeptic camp--I installed the Vitesse throttle controller on my manual v6, and am very impressed. Thanks very much to Sledge for the installation DIY.

As most of you know, the boost settings range from 0 (stock) to 9. I find that setting 3 is what I would have expected the car's "sport" mode to deliver (which unfortunately has little-to-no effect on throttle mapping with the 6-speed). Setting 5 is what I would expect if it had a "sport+" setting. So far, I'm settling on 4.

The car feels much, much more lively, and contrary to what some suspect, the throttle has not become an on/off switch. It is more touchy, of course, but still easy to modulate; for my taste, it's actually easier because I find it more comfortable to keep the pedal in the earlier part of travel as opposed to pushing further down, if that makes any sense. According to the display, throttle-to-pedal relationship is still pretty linear at moderate settings and you still have to push way down to get 100% WOT.

A major plus is that throttle blipping on downshift is way easier and more satisfying. This more than anything opened my eyes to the throttle delay I kept reading about but hadn't noticed before.

I've only taken a short drive, but I'm now firmly in the believer camp.

As has been discussed ad nauseam, this is not an outright performance mod. I see it as making the car respond in a more intuitive way. As I mentioned earlier, this is what sport mode should have delivered, IMO.

The car may not perform better in absolute terms, but many of us will get more performance out of the car in day-to-day driving. In a quarter mile, for example, the car will not trap any faster, but most average drivers will feel more confident in point-and-squirt situations with a moderate boost setting.

Experience may vary for A8 vehicles or manual drivers who are still learning their car.

Does this keep the RPMs up a little higher between shifts? Specifically 1st-2nd, I find myself slipping it a bit if the family is in the car and I want to run it a little harder (3500 RPM or so before a shift into 2nd). Seems like those RPMs fall off fast up higher and with the throttle lag it isn't always easy to rev match.

I'd love to have a little more responsive throttle. I know all it does is change the mapping a bit, but if I could see an improvement in throttle response, I'd be interested.
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Old 11-29-2016, 10:27 PM   #6
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I found that 5 is a pretty healthy medium. People make the mistake of assuming, or get mad at the thought that this is supposed to make your car faster.. WRONG. All it does it help with throttle response which I have found in my car to be finicky a lot of the time. This product is especially great assuming you don't want to get a tune. It gets the job done perfectly and I'm not smacking my pedal as much anymore. When I get a tune, then I won't have a need for the Vitesse anymore, but for the time being, it's a great, cheap little mod that will make your car feel just that much more responsive and alive.
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Old 11-29-2016, 10:57 PM   #7
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Does this keep the RPMs up a little higher between shifts? Specifically 1st-2nd, I find myself slipping it a bit if the family is in the car and I want to run it a little harder (3500 RPM or so before a shift into 2nd). Seems like those RPMs fall off fast up higher and with the throttle lag it isn't always easy to rev match.

I'd love to have a little more responsive throttle. I know all it does is change the mapping a bit, but if I could see an improvement in throttle response, I'd be interested.
I don't see any difference in how the RPM responds to letting go of the pedal, but I find that the TC makes the relationship between pedal pressure/angle and RPM rise to feel much more natural.

I believe TSloper posted an explanation of the difference between throttle lag and pedal lag in Sledge's DIY installation thread. It's definitely good food for thought.

At the end of the day, it depends on what you consider throttle response. In practice, I believe it just works. Instead of leaving you in a mini-lag-limbo wondering if you should give it more pedal, the needle just jumps. I suppose if you have a determined, quick-acting, and...mechanically unsympathetic right foot, you can overcome the perceived lag. I prefer to reprogram the throttle and let my right foot stay in its comfort zone. It's too bad that sport mode didn't do this for the M6.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:00 PM   #8
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I don't see any difference in how the RPM responds to letting go of the pedal, but I find that the TC makes the relationship between pedal pressure/angle and RPM rise to feel much more natural.



I believe TSloper posted an explanation of the difference between throttle lag and pedal lag in Sledge's DIY installation thread. It's definitely good food for thought.



At the end of the day, it depends on what you consider throttle response. In practice, I believe it just works. Instead of leaving you in a mini-lag-limbo wondering if you should give it more pedal, the needle just jumps. I suppose if you have a determined, quick-acting, and...mechanically unsympathetic right foot, you can overcome the perceived lag. I prefer to reprogram the throttle and let my right foot stay in its comfort zone. It's too bad that sport mode didn't do this for the M6.


Well said. I appreciate the explanation! Thanks. I agree, I wish Sport Mode did more.


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Old 12-21-2016, 01:29 PM   #9
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Quick question...How do you set up the controller and specifically where it says "Turn on ignition to the ON position without starting up the engine"

I have the 2016 Camaro SS
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Old 12-21-2016, 02:33 PM   #10
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Quick question...How do you set up the controller and specifically where it says "Turn on ignition to the ON position without starting up the engine"

I have the 2016 Camaro SS
push the ignition switch with your foot off the brake. Its called auxiliary mode.
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Old 01-13-2017, 02:30 AM   #11
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I personally love mine, and keep it at 6 even though 9 is very fun! Unless of course the girlfriend is driving then it's at 0 lol
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:39 PM   #12
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I ordered one of these over the weekend. No order confirmation or emails from these people. Is this normal?
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