[cooden]

Who lives in neighborhoods where the neighbors complain about your Camaros exhaust? School buses & garbage trucks are louder driving through the neighborhood than my Camaro. Not only that, if your driving 30mph in your neighborhood, it's not even noticeable. If you like NPP, that's great--but some of the reasons for having it make no sense to me (and I live in a very nice neighborhood).

[Techn9cian805]

Originally Posted by cooden

Who lives in neighborhoods where the neighbors complain about your Camaros exhaust? School buses & garbage trucks are louder driving through the neighborhood than my Camaro. Not only that, if your driving 30mph in your neighborhood, it's not even noticeable. If you like NPP, that's great--but some of the reasons for having it make no sense to me (and I live in a very nice neighborhood).

I live in neighborhood of townhomes/condos, so cold starts are what got me to option out for the NPP. I do a lot of cold starting for work early in the morning, and late past midnight when heading out for some fun.
Nobody in my neighborhood complains because I get along with just about all of them, and some I know really wouldn't have the balls to complain anyway lol but its a matter of respect, plain and simple. Some of my neighbors have newborn babies, and as a father myself, I know how irritating it could be when a loud outside noise like a v8 cold start or a faggy Harley roars past and wakes up a baby when you have been trying for the longest time to get some shut eye...
It makes no sense to me why people who have respect for neighbors and neighborhood peace would bug you or anyone else...

[cooden]

Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

I live in neighborhood of townhomes/condos, so cold starts are what got me to option out for the NPP. I do a lot of cold starting for work early in the morning, and late past midnight when heading out for some fun.
Nobody in my neighborhood complains because I get along with just about all of them, and some I know really wouldn't have the balls to complain anyway lol but its a matter of respect, plain and simple. Some of my neighbors have newborn babies, and as a father myself, I know how irritating it could be when a loud outside noise like a v8 cold start or a faggy Harley roars past and wakes up a baby when you have been trying for the longest time to get some shut eye...
It makes no sense to me why people who have respect for neighbors and neighborhood peace would bug you or anyone else...

Oh man, all the NPP guys are getting mad that someone doesn't like the NPP exhaust. Seriously though, you brought up a good point about Harleys--people in my neighborhood own them and those are just as loud or louder than the Corsa. Not to sound like a dick, but if you want peace and quiet--go live in the country. If people want to drive something that is a little loud, then you deal with it when living in a neighborhood. It's a sports car--not a fuel dragster that your starting. When I cold start either of my vehicles with a Corsa exhaust (Camaro or Durango), it's not an issue. I have a 3-year old and 6-week old--the exhausts or nothing else wakes them up. I don't know what your homes are built of, but it's not an issue in my neighborhood.

[Techn9cian805]

Originally Posted by cooden

Oh man, all the NPP guys are getting mad that someone doesn't like the NPP exhaust. Seriously though, you brought up a good point about Harleys--people in my neighborhood own them and those are just as loud or louder than the Corsa. Not to sound like a dick, but if you want peace and quiet--go live in the country. If people want to drive something that is a little loud, then you deal with it when living in a neighborhood. It's a sports car--not a fuel dragster that your starting. When I cold start either of my vehicles with a Corsa exhaust (Camaro or Durango), it's not an issue. I have a 3-year old and 6-week old--the exhausts or nothing else wakes them up. I don't know what your homes are built of, but it's not an issue in my neighborhood.

lol like I said, its a respect thing. not everyone will have it, you do your thing. Not all of us have that "don't like it? then get the fugg out" mentality. Where I live everyone looks out for eachother, its a tight community. if someone leaves their garage open, or forgets to turn off something, we can call on eachother to close the door or turn off the stove, for example. we all get along, and I want to keep it that way. no instigating.
you don't have to like the NPP because you have no use for it obviously, but there are some of us that do have a use for it and want to be quiet when needed, and loud when we want to have fun. no reason to hate on us for it.

[somewhatdamaged]

Originally Posted by cooden

If you want NPP functionality, then get Borla. Stainless Worst is junk--just listen to them on YouTube. Lethal did a comparison between SW, NPP & Hooker. The NPP sounded better than SW. If you don't care about NPP, then get the Corsa Xtreme. Personally, I don't understand the people getting a boner over NPP--I have zero interest in making my SS quiet/stealth. I've heard the NPP and it sounds great for $900--but the Corsa Xtreme sounds 10x better.

The exhaust "sound" debate is very subjective - although I agree that the NPP when driven, sounded better some of the others. As far as Corsa, I just don't really care for the motorboat idle sound, makes me feel I should be wearing a captains hat or something. I have NPP, and I use it more just to play around with it, but sport is the default. I'm leaning towards Borla Atak with no NPP as it's much cheaper, I just can't bring myself to spend at a minimum 550 more for the valves, especially when I won't really use them all that much. As far as neighbors go, I do try and be considerate - just the nice thing to do. I'll at least do the closed garage door thing at startup to help deafen cold start.

[gdgraph]

I went with Borla S-type, it's a good conservative option if you want something a little louder than the stock NPP (and a beter exhaust note) but don't want it crazy loud. The NPP valves also tone it down well. If you really want loud you can opt for the Borla Attack. Both options have NPP. I'm really happy with the sound and not having any drone.

I've had Corsa before on a previous car, loved the sound also, and no drone, but they don't have an NPP.

I think the SW and Magnaflow systems are louder but then you start entering the risk of running into drone territory, unless you don't care about that. It really comes down to preference.

I would youtube the various options to find the sound you like. Only thing you won't get from the videos is how much drone there is from inside unless they show that too.

[Megahurtz]

Originally Posted by cooden

Oh man, all the NPP guys are getting mad that someone doesn't like the NPP exhaust. Seriously though, you brought up a good point about Harleys--people in my neighborhood own them and those are just as loud or louder than the Corsa. Not to sound like a dick, but if you want peace and quiet--go live in the country. If people want to drive something that is a little loud, then you deal with it when living in a neighborhood. It's a sports car--not a fuel dragster that your starting. When I cold start either of my vehicles with a Corsa exhaust (Camaro or Durango), it's not an issue. I have a 3-year old and 6-week old--the exhausts or nothing else wakes them up. I don't know what your homes are built of, but it's not an issue in my neighborhood.

Don't be a troll. We who think NPP is a good option live in neighborhoods where its more polite to be quieter late at night. I work all sorts of late hours sometimes. I get along with all of my neighbors and they never complain. The neighbor directly across from me has a newborn.

But it's just a non selfish point of view I suppose. Maybe one day you will be mature enough to be more considerate of others. And maybe, as you mentioned, its not an issue in your neighborhood. But don't sit there and judge those who spent the money on NPP. I do not regret it at all, I think it was a good purchase. Perhaps you're the one getting mad that you don't have NPP and its not in budget to buy the aftermarket exhausts that retain NPP.

[Grey_AF]

Yeah I too went with Borla S-Type for many of the reasons stated above. Its considerably louder than stock, especially at start up but the rest of the times it is very mild mannered unless you want it to be loud. I ditched the valved option because I dont like too many choices, can never pick what sound I want. The cold start volume is very loud, but it sounds great and quiets down after 30 seconds. I live on a military base in community housing and the neighbors are very touchy, but its a mixed bag. Some ppl love the car for what it is, others get pissed cause I woke them.. but Im not gonna settle for less on my $40k sports car. Nothing worse then remorse in my opinion.

Borla's quality is great and the tone is perfect, very deep and refined. People always comment and say wow that sounds perfect.. So thats enough to reinforce I made the right decision.

[cooden]

Originally Posted by Megahurtz

Don't be a troll. We who think NPP is a good option live in neighborhoods where its more polite to be quieter late at night. I work all sorts of late hours sometimes. I get along with all of my neighbors and they never complain. The neighbor directly across from me has a newborn.

But it's just a non selfish point of view I suppose. Maybe one day you will be mature enough to be more considerate of others. And maybe, as you mentioned, its not an issue in your neighborhood. But don't sit there and judge those who spent the money on NPP. I do not regret it at all, I think it was a good purchase. Perhaps you're the one getting mad that you don't have NPP and its not in budget to buy the aftermarket exhausts that retain NPP.

So saying I think the reason of not "disturbing a neighborhood" is trolling? Somehow I'm not being "mature" enough? Did you read my post? I have a 3-year old and a 6-week old (which is technically a newborn)--either of my vehicles with a Corsa exhaust doesn't wake them up when I remote start them in the garage. Did you also read where I said the NPP was a good value at $900? I said I prefer the sound of the Corsa over the NPP (and the way it looks--no suitcase muffler and the tips look better in my opinion). I'll say it again--if I had to live in a neighborhood where my vehicle choices were dictated by what the neighbors might think, I wouldn't live there to begin with. Harley's are as loud or louder than our cars--you know how many guys have those in my neighborhood? How about the guys who own classic muscle cars--Cudas, GTO, Chevelle, etc--have you ever heard those things start up and rumble by? If just starting your car might "offend" a neighbor, that's just insane to me.

So while we are talking about being mature, you said "Perhaps you're the one getting mad that you don't have NPP and its not in budget to buy the aftermarket exhausts that retain NPP."
1. I spent $700 to purchase the rear NPP fascia and to also get it painted gloss black and installed so that it could accommodate the Corsa Xtreme (which was another $1250 plus installation).
2. I've spent $8,151 in 1.5 months since taking delivery of my car to customize it to the way I want it.
3. I'll be spending another $9500 this April or May to have a Whipple SuperCharger installed and tuning.